Anonymity vs. Accountability

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bahmani
by bahmani
02-Nov-2007
 

The usual thing to do in a Ghaari is to walk off and never talk to your brother for 20 years, then when the argument is forgotten, still hold on to ill feelings even if no one knows who started it.

Certainly we are not at that phase and I do not want anyone to think that I am upset at JJ, far from it, this discussion has been about trying to find a way to make this new world we are in better. Not that it's bad now.

OK now it sounds like I'm really backpedaling! But to heed JJ's voice of calm in the storm, maybe we ought to not take things so personally and work them out in the very forum that created the phenomenon. So I'll try;

I had the misfortune to be repeatedly harassed by a certain "Goozidam Beh Rishet" one of the many brat anonymous commentors who have recently and gleefully made Iranian.com their home. Not surprisingly, out of the more than 80 comments posted on my "last post" none of them were by GBR. So confronting him/her with a post dedicated to him/her has possibly worked. Cowardice is after all predictable. GBR never made pointed comments about any piece I wrote or tried to argue a position, but instead did nothing but proclaim a virulent hatred for me, my family, my background and anything he/she could dig up from my bio. Worse, that I was contemptuous. The threats, accusations, name calling, all done with such extreme negative passion, that after a couple of these in a row, I challenge anyone to be cold enough to be able to laugh it off. It is one thing for 2 anonymous people to go at it, but entirely unnerving when you are exposed with your real name and don't know who could possibly hate you so much. But the hardest fact for me to try to deal with, was that I would create such hate in someone, by my writing. I NEVER have enemies like this, and 99.99% of people who meet me like me. Mostly because like most people, I like being liked. So much so I work hard at being fair, honest, humorous, and getting along. Ask anyone who knows me and they will confirm this. So to be hated so much, is not something that I can easily let go of. Attack my piece and I'll take it, but attack me personally and I hurt. Sorry I'm that sensitive. Sniff!

But, after a couple of days (mostly cooling off!) and discussing this issue online and off with my fellow writers, I have come to the following conclusion:

We cannot shut ANYONE up, as much as we may want to. The line of censorship once crossed is too slippery for that. Assholes have the right to scream. Especially Iranian Assholes like Goozidam Beh Rishet.

We cannot shut ANYONE up, because frankly if you know anything about the day to day running of Iranian.com and that the staff is primarily one man called JJ, you would know that the largest online Iranian publication in history (embarrassingly) does not have the staff necessary to selectively find and remove ALL of the rude comments. In my posts alone! Never mind the rest of you!

We CAN defend ourselves, using our pens (OK keyboards), even against anonymous ASSHOLE cowards like Goozidam Beh Rishet.

I also know in my heart (and GBR if you would like to put this to the test, I am ready to prove it), that I can easily take GBR in a back alley fight. And while that may seem uncivilized, macho, and lowbrow, it just made me feel real good to say that!

That and, Sticks and stones may break my bones, but Goozidam Beh Rishet is a real ASSHOLE!

As the famous poet, Omid Djalili said (with a Harlem accent), "Bring it on Motherfucker, Bring it ON!!!"

See you next week!

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Are you gentlemen all Iranian? were you brought up as an Iranian? did anyone teach you about expressing yourselves politely? what happened to your upbringing? are these nasty words really necessary to make a point?
As an Iranian woman, I have never seen such exchanges happening in person and I hope that the pseudo courage created by the fact that you are only facing a monitor when expressing yourselves does not carry over to your real face to face communications.

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Your last few lines says it all

by Miz-abdol-azim khaneh Ghareeb (not verified) on

Burce, you can see why I have been advocating freedom of being anonymous, it's the joy of freedom of speech that we Iranians have not heard of it. Not in our parties, not in our sizdeh bedar, not in our country, not in our monarchy funded luncheons, nowhere will you find fredom of speech, not in Radio Farda, not in VOA, not in Radio Zamaneh, but yes you can find it on Iranian.com

You enjoyed the four letter words that you gave at the end of your article, to those motherfuckers who have been giving you hard time :) good for you. Welcome to the club of freedom of speech.

I am sure those who think Shah will return will be very much disturbed if someone shatters the aristocratic behavior that they exhibit and they want to bring back SAVAK to prosecute anyone who uses bad language. Well, didn't Khomeini start from the same platform?

So, if you ask me here is a solution: One should not write or submit articles to Iranian.com unless they are sure the content makes sense and is not just B.S., because people are smart and distinguish between bullshit and a gem. Most attacks are on those articles that from the very beginning start with an adversary view of a subject.

Do not write adverserial articles or if you do, make sure you were chastity belt!

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Bruce, Welcome back, but .....

by Anonymous_for_you (not verified) on

Bruce Welcome back. An apology to other anonymous posters is missing.


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