Trita Parsi: Carnegie Council

Discusses Iran-U.S. relations at New York event, January 10, 2012

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AMIR1973

You have to respect the NIACis for always being "on message"

by AMIR1973 on

I mean, come one: they have more unanimity, consistency, and discipline in praising their Great Leader (Brother Trita) than the North Koreans had in "mourning" their Dear Leader:

 

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSWN6Qj98Iw&feature=fvst 


omid@hotmail.com

Iranian Mr. Chow

by omid@hotmail.com on

suck on these little chinese balls!!!!


iamfine

Trita Parsi

by iamfine on

I have a great respect for Parsi. His analysis of Obama's approach to Iran was clear and make sense. He is well educated and I look at him as a true Iranian


Soosan Khanoom

I actually like his idea of

by Soosan Khanoom on

" Conflict Dynamic "

As Colin Powell used to say before he became a lying war whore,

"What's our exit strategy?" 


Anahid Hojjati

you have betrayed

by Anahid Hojjati on

the most.


vildemose

 they violate and betray

by vildemose on

 they violate and betray knowingly through their intellectual dishonesty, millions of Iranians whose lives are directly effected by the garbage ('warts and all!') they push, thanks to the generosity of their paymasters.

Well-put. This is exactly the problem.

A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.


Banafsheh Zolfaghari

Enough already

by Banafsheh Zolfaghari on

Honestly, enough already about this kid and all his fellow appologists. They are really not worth the ink or the time.  

The fine editor of this fine forum obviously sees value in all the traffic TP and his cohorts draw to this site, but attracting flies is not the most valuable measure as flies seek the most undesireable things in the darndest places ...  (Ouch!)

(See, I also am not exempt from the nasty karma this guy seems to project.)  

Lets upgrade this fine forum and move on.  Have no doubt, history and the Iranian people will be unkind to the likes of TP and his fellow frauds. Not because they varied points of views, but because they violate and betray knowingly through their intellectual dishonesty, millions of Iranians whose lives are directly effected by the garbage ('warts and all!') they push, thanks to the generosity of their paymasters.

Enough said.  Let them worry about what is in store for them!  

Chasing rats do us no good, we've got much bigger fish to fry!


iraj khan

Mr Parsi

by iraj khan on

is at it again:

Untangling,

the tangled up

relationship between Iran and U.S.

Eloquently.


MM

Mehrdad - no need to go far away from IC to hear drums of war

by MM on

Here is a currently featured blog with folks like pre-emptive-strike boy John Bolton //iranian.com/main/2012/jan/export-radical-islams-map-end-democracy who emphasizes how important it is to strike Iranian sites now.


Bavafa

Farmarz jaan: Do you see TP in this conversation?

by Bavafa on

It was on the air yesterday (Jan 30th)

//www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=146093304&m=146093297

The transcript is also available if you like me to provide it.   Also, don't forget to click on the next clip on the front page of IC, just next to this one to see how many of pervious US officials have lined up for advocating war.  It is not a figment of imagination.

And perhaps one example of what I mean by "giving too much credit to TP"

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad


Faramarz

Mehrdad Jaan

by Faramarz on

The war talk is only coming out of Trita and the people who think like him.

Obama has gone out of his way to say that war is not the solution. 

But to be honest with you, the war talk is being used to coax the naive to get on board with the agenda and that's where I differ with Trita.


Bavafa

Faramarz jaan: And I do get you…

by Bavafa on

Specially on your last point and could not agree more.  I also don’t think we diverge about the future of Iran and Iranians, where we diverge is how to get there.

  

As for TP, I care less for him than some folks , including you, care for him albeit in a negative way.  Far too much credit if you ask me.

  Lastly, I believe you when you say you had a great childhood in Iran, not everyone had it as good as you did, though I am not holding that against you and likewise I hope and wish all can have, once again, as good as you did in Iran.  I just don't believe that can be brought to them thru war and/or purely by Americans.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad


masoudA

Good point Roozbeh

by masoudA on

I too am sorry to see so much Toilet Paper (TP) influence here on IC.   Arthimis is right about repeating lies.......Boogh and Booghchi... Funny part is the automatic endosements TP recieves from bavafa and MM - not matter what he spills out!!!


Faramarz

Mehrdad Jaan, I Totally Get You

by Faramarz on

Your main issue is with the US and its foreign policy. Everybody has the same issue at some point. I get that.

Your next big issue is with Israel and the Palestinians and I get that one too. Everybody has this same issue too. But it is not high on my agenda.

Where we diverge is about the future of Iran and the Iranians. I had a great childhood in Iran and I hope that all Iranians get to experience the same thing.

This Regime is bad for Iranians and should go one way or another. I don't think that Trita gets that.


Roozbeh_Gilani

trita-parsi.com

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

This is what this site has turned into.

at least one blog a day is dedicated to this guy and his nonsense,  and featured right on the front page.. You'd think he is competing with the other  "heir to thrones", Reza pahlavi or Mojtaba Khamenei ,  wouldnt you?

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


Arthimis

“A Lie Told Often Enough

by Arthimis on

“A Lie Told Often Enough Becomes The Truth”!!

I don't know what part of "LYING Islamic Republic" Iranians do not comprehend after 33 years!!!!

Mr. Trita Parsi is an educated man and well spoken, but to defend (directly or indirectly) a Regime with one of the worst Human Rights Records in the world , Aka : Islamic Republic, is either the complete proof of insanity or is a sheer hypocricy!! Either case, It's directely against Iran and Iranian interest as it has been for the past 33 years...

I'm not defending any "Doval Jahankhar" here as they have had direct influence & impact on how devastated & Badbakht Iran and Iranians have become, but our NO.1 Problem as Iranians here and NOW is the Islamic Republic Regime, period. They must GO !!! 

It reminds me of the news yesterday about Russian Prime Minister inviting the Syrian Opposition to have direct meetings & talks with Bashar Al Asad's Syria ! The Opposition declined immediately saying : We do not meet and/or negotiate with killers, they must step down, period" !!!

Go Syrian Opposition.... Hypocrite Iranians Must Learn a Lesson (or two...) in Logic , Courage and Action from them... 

Open & Free Your Minds from lies, FREE IRAN!!! 


Bavafa

Faramarz jaan: It is not your first attempt…

by Bavafa on

And I don’t mind you trying it again :)
In terms of seeing things objectively, I guess you and I will remain divided as it seems we have a different understanding of the term objectivity.  I believe in that you seem to give the West, specially the US, all the benefit of the doubt and view the Iranian side with the outmost suspicion.   My view is that when it comes to foreign affairs, I trust neither side and I look at both sides with outmost suspicion and with that I treat “what is good for goose is good for gander


Now just to address your two points made here, 
It seems the goal of negotiation for the West is to have Iran stop all enrichment activity while the Iranian side believe they should be allowed to exercise their legal rights under NTP rules for nuclear program and the negotiation should be based on that theme.  Now if you care, we could discuss each side’s fault in this arena OBJECTIVILY, based on publicly available information.
Your second point, I have no idea what “change” Khamenie is expecting, you seem to know exactly and so expect TP to know and believe in what you believe, but I can hardly expect IRI to change without seeing any reciprocating change from their opponent.  
 

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

P.S. I do wish half of the attention that goes to TP, would have also been given to those already spending years behind bars for confronting IRI.  Arguably, this lack of attention by some in the opposition has created a credibility dilemma for them.


MM

good point, Mehrdad

by MM on

It's too bad that TP does not start the conversation by insulting everyone involved, which should earn him more tracking amongst the drummers.


Faramarz

Mehrdad Jaan

by Faramarz on

Please allow me to burst your bubble.

This is not an analysis. This is cheerleading.

Trita through some process had come to some conclusions and is using this occasion to repeat his beliefs and regurgitate his conclusions. Here are some examples if you care to look at things objectively.

He starts out (first clip and in reply to the old guy’s question) by saying that the threats by both sides are jockeying for upcoming negotiations in Turkey in 2 weeks. That was 3 weeks ago. And any objective analyst of Iran knows that the US and the west completely dismissed the talk of a meeting with the Regime as pure stalling tactic and said that if the Regime is willing to discuss ending their enrichment activities they know that they should contact Lady Ashton and show up in Vienna. I guess the word never got to Trita.

He starts the second clip by talking about Khamenei’s 40 minute speech in reply to Obama’s Norooz message. He correctly states that 38 minutes out of the 40 was about bashing Obama and then he says that in the last 2 he said, “If you change, we change.”

What Trita doesn’t say is that the change that Khamenei is asking for is for US to abandon its allies and interests in the Region and around the world and leave the Region to the Regime. That will never happen. Khamenei knows that so do every respectable analyst of Iran. That simple point somehow escapes Trita.  

Then he talks about the complexities of the Iranian leadership and the difficulties of negotiations as if there are different centers of power in Iran. Karim Sadjadpour who I respect immensely had a great article called “The Prince of Persia” where he described Machiavellian style of Khamenei and how he and only he is in charge of Iran and the decision-making process. That simple point is also lost on Trita.

Otherwise, it was a great analysis!


masoudA

Shame on Boogh & Booghchi!!

by masoudA on

Crocodile tears for Iran


Bavafa

Excellent conversation....

by Bavafa on

A sound and objective analysis of the situation on the ground.  I hope cooler heads prevails to avoid any possible military conflict in Iran and the region.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad