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Even Pacohontas was More Genuine than some of you folks !

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In addition she was a Real Princess ! 

"A Country that Loses it's Poetic Vision is a Country that faces death"-Saul Bellow.

Abarmard Jan that's not entirely True

In France (where the Arab Loving Leader of your "Glorious" Revolution took refuge in Neuphle-Chateau before deposing the former Head of State of Iranzamin) which is a Parliamentary Democracy the Head of State is elected directly by the people and through what we call Le Suffrage Universel. 

This was established under President De Gaulle where he supervised the drafting of a new Constitution in 1953 so as to give the French head of State the necessary powers to lead the country whilst respecting the separation of Powers ( Executive, Legislative). This put France under what became known as the 5th Republic which has prevailed to this day.

One of the reasons that prompted De Gaulle ( who was a monarchist at heart by the way but Republican for practical reasons) was that he considered that in order to have a stable democracy you need to have a Head of State who will have the undisputed legitimacy of a King but limited to his term and endorsed only through the democratic polls. That is why the President in a French Republic is often compared to an "Elected" Monarch. 

As such once elected it is the President who names the Prime Minister who then heads the government. He can replace the Prime Minister if the latter resigns or if after a major election be it local or national public opinion shifts by demanding that the President adapts it's policies to the new political landscape.

This has it's advantages and disadvantages. The Advantage for the head of State ( aka President) is that he remains in office even if he has to choose the Prime Minister from a totally opposite political party of his own like the Opposition.

This is what happened with former Socialist French President Mitterand who remained in office despite total disapproval of his political party. He had the prerogatives of France's foreign policy, the Military and other similar prerogatives usually enjoyed by an Absolute King in similar circumstances except that he could not interfere in the policies of the government in handling domestic policies.

This became known as the "Cohabitation". The term used to say that the President and the Prime Minister although at odds politically can run the country together until the next major elections.

In theory this kind of situation can prove uncomfortable for the President but in the Case of Mitterand it helped him stay in Power for 14 years and he survived through two Cohabitations ( One with Jacques Chirac as PM, the other with Edouard Balladur). So depending on the wit and political dexterity of the Head of State such a situation can be used advantageously by a President and help him or her to be reelected. Hence why it became a public joke not without some admiration that Mitterand was a King. When his successor Jacques Chirac was elected he thought he could do the same but made the mistake of dissolving the Parliament shortly after a Landslide election hoping to control the Parliament with a full majority. The People instead voted largely for the Socialists and that resulted in forcing Chirac to cohabitate with a Socialist PM. That was followed by a terrible outcome when in the second Presidential Elections Chirac found himself face to face with a Far Right Wing Candidate ( Jean Marie Le Pen). That was seen as an Alert that Democracy was in danger and prompted the Left Wing to call on everyone to vote for the Right Wing President Chirac in order to avoid the Far Right from becoming President and implementing a Fascist Policy.

After all Hitler won the Elections very democratically in 1933 so the same could have happened in France. Proving that being democratically elected is not necessarily a sign of being a "democrat".

On the otherhand the French Constitution is written in such a way that the Separation of Powers offers a system of Checks and Balances which guarantees that no one can have Absolute Power.

As such it's the Parliament but also a superior instance that is the Senate which plays that balancing role by encompassing a Legislative power but not an executive one except in exceptional circumstances.

Unlike the President Senators are elected indirectly by the Parliamentarians, deputies, mayors etc who they on the other hand are elected directly by the people at the Polls.

So it is in the interest of the governing party to see the Senate be on their side. That is not always the case. This year for instance the Senate fell into the hands of the Left Wing Party where as the President Sarkozy and his government are right wing.

So the President of the Senate is then elected by the Senators and he virtually becomes the second most important figure after the Head of State.

As such if for example the head of State currently Sarkozy is let's say impeached or falls ill or dies or is assassinated it is not the Prime Minister who becomes head of State by interim but the Head of the Senate. Where as in America it is the Vice President who would play that role as was the case with Johnson or Ford both of whom were never elected but immediately put in that position due to very different yet tragic circumstances after a vacuum of power. As such in the Federal system the Vice President is basically the most undemocratic entity in the American Democratic system. In addition it is useless unless those exceptional circumstances take place. So basically Americans are paying this fellow Biden a salary for basically no playing with his fingers and enjoying State dinners and giving useless speeches at national or international conventions. So it makes me smile when Americans  complain about money "wasted" on European Royals.

In France however under such exceptional circumstances the head of the Senate has more legitimacy than the Prime Minister named by the President Elect. 

All of this to say that the structure of the State as drafted by the 1953 Constitution gives the President a great deal of leverage to act as he wishes as long as he has not finished his term but his behavior is under constant control and scrutiny of Popular will thanks to their elected representatives which guarantees the Separation of Powers.

None of this exists under Your Republic and it's so called system of Checks and Balances which is merely for the Show and in the ultimate controle of the Guardians council itself in the hands of people loyal to the Supreme Leader if not ( as in the case of Rafsanjani) dismissed on any fake ground of plotting against the regime.  

But ultimately the people have no say unlike in Europe's Parliamentary Democracies whether they are Republics or Monarchies.

My Humble Opinion,

DK 

IRI is a Constitutional Monarchy

A monarch selected and blessed by the divine and is divine in himself and the embodiment of the nation and the Defender of The Faith and

with a Constitution

only the Tomanillionaires of the mullahtocracy class can stomach, to digest.

All serfs will however go to heaven, if they abide. 

Nothing's changed much then, except for the ceremonies. 

Presidential What?

Who was elected and when? I must've missed the whole history of IR since its inception. The only elected president IR has had was Mr. Banisadr! And we saw what happened to him.

نه تنها نازه و ناز داره ، بلکه قرار بود در اصل این متن زیر را

بلکه قرار بود در اصل این متن زیر را بخونه

Googoosh. Man Amadeam (Rangarang) Best Version گوگوش

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من آمده ام، وای وای من آمده ام

آی آی ، من آمده ام

ریاست جمهوری مال خره!

آقا هم خوبه و هم نازه!

He is right

This is waste of every body's time,energy  and frankly  it confuses people. One olagh should be sufficent to run sheikh o omati republic. Another thing that should be gone next is their majlis.

I would be rather surprised...

I would be rather surprised if the IRI abolishes its phony elections. After all, it is one of the pillars of IRI propaganda (frequently repeated by its West-residing practitioners on IC and elsewhere) that the IRI has "elections", a "president", a "parliament", a "judiciary", "checks and balances", blah, blah, blah. I think Se'd Ali just might be blowing smoke.

"Leader (aka Shah) "

 "Leader (aka Shah) "  it is true Abarmard ...

And we went through tons of deaths and a ruined country all because of the consecoinses of a revolution to ONLY & ONLY get "Shah" be replaced by "VF"...

and if the Iraninan people inside do not rise to this latest bull shit imposed on them by the VF gang  then they, for sure, deserve to live under it ....

"Ayatollah Republic" in the air

..... or a simple warning to AN, but of no consequence.

Although, it's not clear to an outsider what's the difference btwn Khamenei' clan and AN' clan.

Are the latter simple, soft conservatives as opposed to the hard line ones, or what?

Parliamentary system

FYI: A Parliamentary system can have president, but it is elected by the parliament rather than people. People directly elect the parliament members and those members elect the president.

Although this system would be a good system for many democratically developed countries, for Iran that lacks independent political parties would not yield positive results. Currently in Iran the office of presidency and congress act as separate political parties, which to some limited extent provide voices for Iranian people. In case of a Parliamentary system, the parliament would be under total control of Leader (aka Shah) and president or prime minister would be a simple figure head lacking political power.

It was never

a republic it was always a dictatorship of VF. I much rather have honesty. Now is is proven that an Islamic Republic is not possible. Once the VF is gone no one will argue for another "Islamic Republic".

They should have a contest for Iran's new official name

It can't be a republic without a president.  So, no more "Islamic Republic."  What would it be then?  The Islamic Emirate of Iran?  The Islamic Khalifat of Iran?  Belaad-e Islami -e Iran?  What would it be now?

Pendar Jan

I want you to fly your mouth off again and tell us how reform is still possible. They've put your beloved Mousavi and Karoubi shipishu akhund under house arrest; they've flogged 90 times for writing a letter daring to criticise Ahmadi; the rates of executions have increased; bloggers are beaten, tortured and killed in prison; universities are segragated and students daring to protest are beaten up and raped by their jailers....now tell me that happens in prisons in Israel.
There is no reform. It is dead. If anyone believes that anything short of military action is going to stop this evil regime.then you are fooling yourselves and doing a major disservice to the Iranian people.
Look Iranians in the eye and tell them the truth.

Supreme substitute!!!

Actually, in all fairness, it wouldn't be a bad idea to replace the post of presidency with a more practical one like a Malijak Supreme!!! It would save a lot of money and hassle to elect/select a president. All Khamenei has to do is to send scouts across the nation to choose the best candidates form among which he and Agha Mostafa can pick the chosen one a la X-Factor!!!

@Anonymous Observer

Isn't it possible to Use all the stamps on Ahmaghinejad himself and do a "return to the sender"?

جمهوری اسهالی

جمهوری بدون رییس جمهور همان جمهوری اسهالی است که ضحاک زمان خامنه ای ولایت وقیح بعد از انتری نژاد می خواهد بر مردم ایران تحمیل کند. آیا زمان آن نرسیده است که کلیه  رهبران آپوزیسیون  در خارج از کشور از رضا پهلوی و مریم رجوی و آقای ارجمند و واحدی و کمونیستها و کردها و لرها و بهاییان و سنی ها و غیره یک شورای ملی تشکیل دهند و مردم ایران را با دادن فراخوان های مشترک به اعتصاب و مبارزه با این رژیم غیر ایرانی فرا خوانند؟ رمز پیروزی ما ایرانیان فقط در اتحاد آپوزیسیون خارج از کشور و هماهنگ شدن با جنبش سبز داخل ایران است

They can't get rid of Ahmadinejad- He has his own stamps! :-)

Seriously:

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Now THAT's funny!!! 

Jerk (Agha) Move

We do not need a president at all, as long these MOOLLA handling every-things!!!!

I am waiting for the day when these dirt looking for a place to hide.

Khamenei do you hear people voice or not? 

I am the King baby

What the guy is saying is I want to be the king. The parliamentary governments have kings or queens and some time presidents but the parliament is in charge and makes most or all of the rules. By itself this is not a bad system but knowing the history of Iran and Iranians' lack of understanding of these systems, it will very much turn into despotic and totalitarian regime right away.

Very interesting

The pretence is up and he wants to be honest! I wonder if he gets away with it. First of all I see no reason why this should break up the nation. We had dictators for most of the 3000 year history and this is nothing new big deal on that.

But I think it may go the other way and VF goes. Do not underestimate AN. Besides VF is old an not going to live forever. Maybe he gets a bit of a push. All this assuming America is not going to do anything major. That would throw the whole deal in the air.

I put my money on AN in a head to head fight with VF. He may sound crazy but he is not. Me thinks all the crazy talk is a show. Beneath that insane face is a calculating mind. But time will be the judge. We shall see before too long just a year.

Dose he think he is immortal?

At least Shah was grooming his son to take over after him and letting people know about who he is becoming, but who knows how many kids he has? Have any body seen them or know what they look like or what they do? Last I heard, there is only one and he is living in England as a gay, so that’s my knowledge of his children.  

We really fucked up our country; we are back to square one.

Is Anybody Listening???

He is speaking very logical!!! Pharoah's logic, of course!!! That one day there might be a 'change!' But not with the 'will' of GOD!  But not by the 'people' votes!' But by the 'wheel' of experts! And that 'change' is not about 'VF' abolishment ever but about saying goodby to 'Presidency!' As he did it himself with Mousavi's prime ministeral job 20 years ago and now he says the Imam did it! It seems he wants to live 2 more decades!!!!

MPD Jan why are you insulting Obama ? ... ;0)

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مرگ بر جمهوری بدونِ رئیس جمهور!

مرگ، مرگ تا پیروزی!

Shape it as you wish

A dictatorship is a dictatorship. I sometimes feel that with such measures he tries to get more and more people to support an attack on Iran and the resulting breakup of the country. I sometimes wonder which sinister party is running this show?

Of within

It seems that the idea of the change is being gradually imposed upon him, for what they fear would happen after his death and what would be coming from A.N's (underestimated) faction from within the regime...........

why do we need an unelected VF?

a super-president?

a power-base behind president-select?

a trump-card for the preservation of IRI?

Smart .Please Lets do it

Very smart lets do it sooner then later .I am all for it.

This president elaction business is too much problam

For Iran and i don't think that anything good comes 

Out of it except ending up with some crazy person like Ahmadi

Who embarrasses the hill out of every Iranian all over the World.

....

Khamenei wanted to change Iran to Islamic oligarchy!