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Hi Roozbeh,

I posted my comments in a new blog. I look forward to your comments. Thanks 

Dear religiousoutof government

I'd like to respond to your detailed comment, as you are raising some very interesting/valid points, as opposed to the usual ignorant statements we see in this blog. But time is short and I am at work. I'll respond or write a blog this weekend, hoping to see your comments.

Thanks  

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Roozbeh,

Hate was a strong word. I take that back. I meant to say Communits are unpopular or I would say Iranians hate the Tudah party and some may hate all communtists by extension. Please do not take this personal. I consider you a respectable intellectual. I agree with you on many issues but not on communism/socialism. 

About the popularity if communists in Iran you ask for a census. You well know there is no such census, just like there is no proof of God! But the burdon of proof is on who?

 Let me tell you my reasons to think communists are unpopular:

 1. In a recent interview on an Iranian TV, Ms. Azar Majedi stated that her Iran Workers and Communist Party ( smae party that Ms Namazie and possibly several IC bloggers belong to) has a total of 200 members. I remind you that there are possibly 3 million Iranians living abroad.

2.  Iranians do not forget the Tudeh Party. Need I say more? When you post a picture of Kashani as a traitor, let me remind you that the Tudah party had a bigger role in the downfall of Mosadegh. They considered him an agent of the Americans in a world game of changing powers from the British to America. The threat of Tudeh party was exactly the reason for the US to switch their support from Mossadegh to the Shah and to give in to the British and MI6.

3. Iranians have become much more scholarly in the study of history. Many scholars have examined the Soviet, British and US archives. The evidence overwhelmingly points to financial and political support of all leftist groups from the Tudah party to even MEK by the soviets. The referrences are plenty including Milani's recent research and others. Iranians know this and will not forget.

4. The downfall of ALL communist countries (too many to name in my post!) has created an image of a bankrupt idealogy. I know, I know, you and Ms. Majedi and the late Hekmat believe that your brand of communism is different. But this is an argument for a different post! The fact is the worldwide failure of communism has created the image of a bankrupt ideology. Many Iranians are surprised to hear that there are still people who believe in communism!

5. Anecdotal evidence. I know and talk to many Iranians. I know of only one person who is a communist. 100's of others have opposite views. They want a democracy with free private ownership. The one communist I know is a member of Majei's party. He constitutes a small but significant percentage of their membership base (0.5%). He lives in the US and owns multiple businesses. He is a true entrepreneur! (more on hypocrisy later).

 6. I believe people are tired of all ideologies. They want free votes. They want free ownership. As much as you want to argue, restricting free ownership of capital and democracy are not compatible.  People know that. People have learned that ANY IDEOLOGY breeds hypocracy. Why should a selected few ( whether Islamists or Communists) should have the power to implement their utopic version of the society? People do not want utopia, they want votes and freedoms. Communists had their chance in many countries and failed. Iranian do not want their country as another testing ground for for a different version of the same failed ideology. They have had enough. 

 I do however believe that there will always be idealistic communists/socialists. All western and free societies have fringes to the extreme left and right. They should have the right to express their opinions and form their parties. However, freedoms should be respected so a small group of idealists/hypocrites never seize power again. 

Regards

Communist Workers Party of Iran?

Isn't that the party she's part of?

In which case, I strongly recommend, once more, that any form of a secular democratic system, should have some form of Proportional Representation (avoiding unnecessary bloodshed), in which she'd be useful for valid workers' unions.

I can see his point of view

But I don't agree with agreeing with her, she could say 1+1 =2 and I'd still remind her we already had 2 and you're still propogating the same out dated manipulation about the late shah, well guess what honey, now we have a Mother F^&$^ng Dictatorship and none of us are safe for real behaaaaaa^%$^$$#aach!

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amirsecolar joon, I am not addressing you, I am addressing the other secolar guy/gal, "religiuosoutofgovernment",  who sounds very much like you. You are not his/her twin by any chance?!!

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Thats why its such a puzzle to me

How could the left go with a bunch of mullahs against the late shah, who was no fan of religous demagogues?  After all he did to help the average Iranian.  You have to admit its no badge of honor betraying the late shah, calling him a dictator to fit with the wests manipulation.  I'm no fan of mullahs at least kashani didn't betray the crown, but I'm very cross with the left for siding with the mullahs and with the mullahs for siding with khomeini. Ultimately the left had impact, they went for the revolution.

"Iranians hate communists"

Really? Have you taken a census of all Iranians to arrive at your conclusion? would you mind sharing your census data with the rest of us?

Well this Iranian, who was  very religious, very monarchist on top of  being a traitor, certainly hated communists. Kind of a badge of honour for any communist to be hated by traitors like him I'd say.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Atheism beyond communism

As an atheist I support her comments in this speech 100%. However, because she is a communist, Iranians simply will not listen to her. It is a fact that iranians hate communists as much as they hate the Mullas. We need more mainsteam peole to expose the atrocities of religion. She simply has no chance and will always be a vicitm of her political views.

Just an intellectual figure of speech!

Which usually have no practical applications in the society.

The corner stone of a civil society is EDUCATION. The higher the level of mass population, the more civil, tolerant and prosperous the society.

I propose to those who inflamate their neck vein to roll up their sleeves and go to Iran and start educating regular Joe's! In that respect, I think Parviz Natel Khanlari should've won a Noeble prize!

Courage would be to admit your views mislead people at a

Time of National Danger and helped bring about crap like Velayat e Faghih, while the west wanted to get rid of the Shah with the purpose of arresting the progress of iran he helped create, which the west was and is still opposed to since its gangsters want to control Irans resources.

Courage would be to admit that the Shah was a decent man and Khomeini was an A$$H345e who was Paid hundreds of milions of dollars by the USA, who chose him knowing in detail his views and desiring to use a child molestor like khomeini to send iran back to the stone age.

It's the Truth That takes courage Roozbeh, not talking of One Law for All and Secular Government, both of which actually existed at the time of Aryamehr, while on the other hand promoting an old once upon a time effective manipulation, like miss Namazie still tries to pursue, and present the late shah as a dictator.

Courage would be to acknowlege a decent Iranian leader was betrayed and that continuing to lie about him is a continuation of that betrayal, a betrayal of all iranians today. No one around me in london has any disagreement with a secular government, that provides one law for all based on peoples conscience not an out dated book. We used to have it!!!!!!!!!

Good speech Miss namazie

I like her a lot. She is courageous and articulate, an Iranian woman to be proud of. She is hated and despised by  herds of London residing supporters and agents  of islamist regime. However her anonymous attackers have not a fraction of her courage, they just go vez o vez like flies round  the islamist crap called the "velayat e faghih" :). 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Maryam this is why the pahlavis were great for Iran

//www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15991641

When the west wants this for Iran its easy to see the contributions your parents wrongly opposed and the foolishness of repeating your lies regarding the late shah today.  Wake up to the western worlds manipulation and love for Islam or be a primary source for our hurt by not defending the freedom of Iranians and instead lying about the institution that delvered it.  

With a Few changes in Lyrics this song would be good for Maryam

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=17eSUnQ-_ek

TL is right

Most people will live with reasonable laws and do not demand religious rule. It is the few big mouth fanatics who demand Sharia of Jewish law or what. Others will happily be going about their business with one law for all people.

Maryam tough life, to have to hold your head down so low

Thats because a former communist like yourself can't feel painful regret for the lies and foolishness you helped spread among Iranians, that helped create 79.  Like calling the late shah a dictator, discussing the terror you lived with that was not based on reality, but of your own foolishness.  If you can see your own mistakes, then and only then can you do whats necessary to remedy them. As for Secular Government & One Law for all, as you know that is how Iran was before you undermined the late Shah and the lives of all Iranians when you betrayed him and Iran in its moment of national danger, when Carter wanted to remove the shah. 

To restore your own credibility you can't walk around as if your own ignorance did not lead Iranians to the Injustices they face today.  If you feel the medicine is bitter, imagine what it must have felt like for one of the most democratic and liberal Iranian leaders, the late shah, to have to leave Iran and the dreams entrusted to him behind and the wish that Iranians through their own culture would create and evolve a form of government based on their own ingenuity in an atmosphere of peace and freedom.

One life lesson to Iranians, it is extremely unwise to forgive someone who has harmed you unless they honestly wish to make the effort to change (she doesn't/hasn't).  Her likes will continue to harm Iranians. And then there are certain acts of ignorance/evil like 1979 that were so foolish we also need to admit that the hurt they caused being so massive they make those responsible for the acts unforgivable.  Yes people can do unforgivable things.  The people that used to write books that savak tortured them, when it didn't, who brought us the Animals who govern Iran today their acts are just as unforgivable as the rapists and torturors in evin today.

One correction, she is responsible for her views today, not her parents actions before 79.  Its her lies today that she spouts out that matter.

I forget she agrees with her parents actions and continues their manipulation, at the time she was not actively involved in 79.

@comments, are you joking?

It's too advanced?

It was mostly fine, except for some Jewish groups (they have their own weirdo set up) before the Sharia shutters appeared on the scene, blocking views of sanity, crying for "human rights", in other words, demanding to be exempt from them,

from the rules the rest of us have to respect.

"One Law for All" is too advanced for ordinary people.

Progress can only be gradual because ordinary human brains cannot absorb at once.

One Law for All is an advanced educational course for ordinary people.  No way that ordinary could pass the course.  Bravo to her; however.

It is unethical and extremely unfair to wait 1000 more years until all Muslims and Muslim countries to become secular, which is the time women become equal to men.  

Did Christians question New and Old Testament when they started to respect human rights?  They translate/analyze the bible differently.  A different interpretation allowed believers to respect human rights; that’s why, conservatives today are not conservatives of yesterday. 

Many Church goers respect human rights.  Even minorities have their own church.

"It's not about what we believe. It's more about how we behave and influence." Comments

Great effort

It is bad enough that religious fanatics rule in Iran. We don't need them to try to slowly gain acceptnce for their backward laws in more countries. Thanks to Ms. Namazie and all those who are active in secular movements.

Well she seems to at least have One thing in common with Starkey

Secularism ... 

David Starkey and the NSS | National Secular Society 

;0) 

Related Blog: 

LAST WORD: David Starkey debates with Maryam Namazie on the monarchy

We owe Namazie

The PC leftists want to be so "nice". They are so tolerant and don't want to offend anyone. If an Islamist wants Sharia in the West that is fine with them. If a kid in school says 2+2=6 well that is not really wrong; it is their "right". 

I have had enough of this and am glad Namazie and Homa Arjomand stood up to it. The hard left has simply lost its mind. That is the only conclusion I draw from their support of Sharia.

god is everywhere

EWWWWWWAAAAWWWW

Thank you

We all need to be reminded of the danger of religion creeping into state affairs in secular countries. Thank you for leading this important cause. I made a donation to One Law for All and encourage others as well.