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Poof !

Now that you know what i mean by the " Majority " of middle easterns being Shi'ite muslims, it displays the importance of Iran as the leading Shi'ite country in the region.

Iran has always spported these shi'ite populations since it considers them as one of her own. Hezbollah is no different. They are better funded by Iran because they are also a strategic ally. But even shi'ite groups that are not allied with Iran politically, receive some form of funds and support from Iran ( mainly in Iraq and Afghanistan ). These support could even be free admissions to Qom seminaries or military trainings if needed. Many of these students become pro Iran ( under the shi'ite banner ) when they go back to their countries.

Where's my money?

Instead of 'Where's my vote?' we should say 'Where's my money?'

fidelio5 : switching argument

YES! This is what these two are doing. Personally I don't give a rats behind if there are more Shia or Sunni. The point is "Iranian Money Wasted". Now please could we get back to the topic? 

Compare these numbers with

Compare these numbers with the total populations from another source and you will notice that shi'ites are clearly in the majority in the total population of the middle east. To my estimate, there are more than a 100 million shi'ite living in these countries.

Indeed, look at the chart. If one adds up the number of Shia throughout the world, it comes to over 100 million (and there are well over 1 billion Muslims in the world, mostly Sunni), but this includes an estimated 40 - 50 million Shia in India (where Sunni Muslims outnumber Shia) and other countries outside the Mideast. This is a perfect demonstration of the Islamist habit of compounding lies with more lies. Cheers.

Oh dear No Fear

"I did not divert this thread, initially."

Lie after lie is not going to change the truth or give you added credibility, the thread below appears to be the first comment about shia demographics; pasting the link which I have already cited and which clearly states the shias are in the minority won't help either.  Now I know you and your islamist buddies will come up with a thousand definitions of the middle east (minus Turkey, Egypt etc etc) but facts don't change and nor do more and more lies trying to cover up your first lie.  

But do go on cos you really are providing the amusement. 

From another angle ...

by No Fear on Thu Oct 14, 2010 01:27 PM PDT

If you pay attention to the demographics of population in the middle east, its hard not to realize that the majority of the middle easterns are Shi'ite muslims ( incl. Iran ). 

Sargord,

I did not divert this thread, initially.

But one last thing in regards to the shi'ite populations which you think the numbers are close. The numbers are NOT close. Here is another link which estimates the numbers of shi'ite muslims. Its a low estimate too. Compare these numbers with the total populations from another source and you will notice that shi'ites are clearly in the majority in the total population of the middle east. To my estimate, there are more than a 100 million shi'ite living in these countries.

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Islam  ( scroll down to the chart )

PS: I have no intentions or any aganda for lying or diverting the main issue. The statistical fact which i found out is very interesting and is related to the main issue by pointing out the religious bonds between Iran and Hezbollah and the rest of shi'ite populations.

استراتژی ایران در قبال لبنان، تکرار استراتژی شوروی در قبال کوبا.

بحران موشکی کوبا رو به یاد دارید؟ شوروی از کوبا برای تحت
فشار قرار دادن آمریکا استفاده میکرد، ایران هم از لبنان برای تحت فشار
دادن رقیب خود ساخته خود در خوار میانه‌ استفاده میکنه. پاچه خاری
لبنانی‌ها از الف.نون. شبیه به زمانی‌ هست که گرباچف و یا خروفچف به کوبا
می‌رفتند. آنها هم مثل پادشاه ازشون استقبال میشد.

سرگرد خالی‌ بند که بابت خلبان بوده، عموت رئیس صدای آمریکا بوده، مادر
بزرگت فیزیک دان بوده، داییت با حسابی‌ هم کلاسی بوده و ....، متعجبم از
این که اگر واقعا قائله جناب عالی‌ این همه تحصیل کرده و با نفوذ هست، چرا
جناب عالی‌ هنوز بلد نیستی‌ پارسی‌ بخونی‌ و جواب بدی.

Don't you see what Pirouz and No Fear Just did?

They changed the terms of the debate on you, with a bold faced lie.

The topic was Iranian Money wasted in South Lebanon, and they used simple numerical sophistry to change the subject.

The Arabs have done that for years w/ the Israeli Palestinian Issue: Get their ignorant masses focused on Israel so as to ignore the tyrrany they endure at the hands of their own regime.

 Oh and just because the US has an idiotic policy (supporting Israeli Settlements) doesnt mean Iran is justified in doing sometyhing equally idiotic .... Poor logic.

Dear Amir1973

Thank you, but we should really thank our subject, SP,  for providing the entertainment.

You are absolutely correct, I forgot that the corporal has added another string to his bow, his recently acquired psychoanalysis skills which I'm sure he will not hesitate to share with us over the coming weeks, much to the joy of IC readers :)

The majority of Iranian Shias have already rejected Islamist

Regime last year and want to have nothing to do with it. We already knew what other religious minoritioes in Iran felt about the islamist regime!

So who cares what religious sect the majority of muslims are?

The fact is this mahmood bi mokh, his rahbar khamenei  and their islamist regime will be wiped off the surface of the earth and history by the Iranian people, if only one day they remove the massive gangs of bassiji thugs from every street corner of Iran.  The islamist regime like any other unpopular islamist dictatorship is ruling by sheer terror. 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Dear Agha Irani

Your response to the Phony Sargord was priceless  :-)

but a 'trained historian', expert in obsolete military technology and a writing expert (see Fred type XYZ) to boot. LOL

You can also add to his CV that he is a Prolific Purveyor of Psycho-babble Gibberish, as in, "you have a deep resent of the 'meehan' because of your loss of status and your lack of acceptance here", blah, blah, blah. I'm surprised we haven't yet heard about our Exile Oedipal Complex... 

Make me laugh some more Corporal

So finally after taking out Egypt, Algeria and now Turkey "it's kind'a close".

"But what's the point in this calculation, anyway?" 

Ask your islamist buddy. 

"dumb foreigners."

Oh I so wish to be like the Bavarian Corporal neither an American in "Amrika" or an Iranian in the "meehan"...

...but a 'trained historian', expert in obsolete military technology and a writing expert (see Fred type XYZ) to boot. LOL

Corporal

"Well, if you don't include Turkey, it's kind'a close." 

 I refer you to my post below:

"The muslim population of the middle east is 90% shia.

ps I'm only counting Iran."

This is just too funny - the islamists have finally found a purpose in life... as clowns and jesters. 

edit: is name-calling some

edit: is name-calling some kind of FOB trait you folks never grow out of? if so, it really pegs you guys as being "dumb foreigners." 

Let's see if "Sargord Pirouz" can detect the irony of the above statement. Cheers  :-)

I wouldn;t call it lying,

I wouldn't call it lying, Amir, so much as interpreting the numbers. Like I said, it's kind'a close without Turkey.

But what's the point in this calculation, anyway? Why's the thread topic been taken away by this divergence? If it's 50/50 or 55/45, so what? 

edit: is name-calling some kind of FOB trait you folks never grow out of? if so, it really pegs you guys as being "dumb foreigners." 

The Bavarian Corporal...

...to the rescue...of his clueless islamist buddies. ROFL

The link provided by the

The link provided by the West-residing IRI Groupie No Fear does not prove his false assertion one bit. It simply states the populations of those countries (and in most of those countries the Shia population is either a minority or virtually non-existent). Lying comes so naturally to Islamists that it's entirely possible they don't even realize when they're lying. Cheers now  :-)

Well, if you don't include

Well, if you don't include Turkey, it's kind'a close. Keep in mind, Shia populations in places like Saudi Arabia are not properly documented.

What was the purpose of this divergence, anyway?  

Who

cares id there are more Suni or Shia. Both sides of the same worthless coin.Folks wake up Islam is the problem not the sect. Don't waste your time on the Tazi desert pretend "religion".

Now LMAO@No Fear

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat a lie it doesn't become fact.  

Your link gives populations for countries not a breakdown by islamic sects so in the context of your statement it means nothing - but it does show a further example of relevant highly skilled islamist scholarship LOL

Amir1973,

Yes. that would constitute the numerical majority of the entire middle east populations ( without the African countries).

//www.mideastweb.org/geogpop.htm

For the fourth time and in simple terms; :-)

There are more Shi'ite muslims living in the middle east than there are Sunni muslims.

No Fear's Islamist stats: "Mal-e khar ast"

Living in the West has not cleansed IRI Groupie No Fear of his Islamist-addled mind. Here's an example of imbecility on display: 

You are refering to " countries ", while i am pointing to the numerical statistics of the entire population.

So if the Shia are the majority in 1 large country (Iran), 1 medium-sized country (Iraq), 2 small countries (Bahrain and Azerbaijan), and about 2 million Shia in Lebanon, they constitute the majority of "the entire population", even if all the other countries of the region have large to very large Sunni majorities. That makes perfect Islamist sense  :-)

Rozie_Gillani

I am Ehsan karimi, I was blocked by your freedom of speech. So i use a different name.  Now, what is the proof that your name is real? Besides, you are kissing western behind all day long and write anti Iran comments. Any west residing coward can do that with real names.  Some even get paid and laid.

Mr or Miss "Amirsaghir"

I am not in the habit of  reponding to the anti iranian, personal, insultive comments of  islamist regime supporters like yourself hiding in the west under false ID's. And any forthcoming  response from you will be accordingly ignored. But  your tone of personal attacks on members including myself, your residence in democratic secular west whilst staunchly suporting the fascist, terrorist islamist regime, overwhelmingly rejected by Iranain nation, your calling yourself "kabir" (great!!!), whilst hiding under a false ID and on the run from Iran whilst your islamist paymasters are still in power (kind of!!), betrays a cowardly, weak,  lying, mercenary character which is common to all supporters of the islamist regime of Iran. This makes me feel very happy. Thank you!   

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

افرادی مثل سرگرد پیروز و فیر را جدی نگیرید.

از آنجا که این افراد خود از شیعیان لبنان هستند و پارسی‌ هم
بیلمیرند، مسلما از این ولخرجی‌ها با پول نفت و خون ایرانیان در لبنان
موافقند. دوستان اشاره کردند که وقتی‌ در ایران کگدمون این همه فقر و
بیچارگی هست، چه دلیلی‌ هست که این پول؛ خارج از ایران خرج شود. خوب دلیلش
مشخصه. همون طور که در ویدئویی که چندی پیش اینجا از متفّکر استراتژیک ج.
ا. ، عباسی، اینجا منتشر شد، حزب‌الله پول میگیره تا توانایی مبارزه با
اسرائیل رو داشته باشه و در صورت لزوم با اسرائیل وارد جنگ بشه. اینطوری
دشمن خود ساخته ج.ا. درگیر مسائل مرزی باقی‌ میمونه و ج.ا. میتونه به جفتک
اندازی‌های خویش که به قول خودش مدیریت جهانی‌ نام داره در منطقه خوار
میانه ادامه بده تا قدرت خود در منطقه رو تثبیت کنه.

Kooshan already explained

Kooshan already explained the difference between helping Israel with your tax Dollars VS Lebanon and palestine with oil money. I also add that in one case they rip you off with Tax money by force or by choice and use them to kill innocent people. In the other case as you said, it is oil money and at least not forced tax money.

Rozie khanoom, (Roozbeh)

I already explained who is coward. YOU, who are sitting outside and don't have the guts to fight a regime from within. You cannot deny that. You coward.   

LOL@No Fear

Well with islamist stats (lies and propaganda) like yours then I can say... 

The muslim population of the middle east is 90% shia.

ps I'm only counting Iran. 

PS:

I am not counting Egypt and Algeria as part of the middle east.

Dear Amir1973

No Fear's claim also struck me as a lie.

I know you deal capably and effectively with the lies of the islamo-nazi terrorist regime supporters but I couldn't resist adding my two cents worth:

"The Shia majority countries are Iran, Iraq, Azerbaijan and Bahrain.[65] They also constitute 36.3% of entire local population and 38.6% of local Muslim population of Middle East.[66]

66. ^ Atlas of the Middle East (Second ed.). Washington D.C: National Geographic. 2008 (published 15 April). pp. 80–81. ISBN 9781426202216

No Fear it looks like you've been caught with your pants down - who is it now that is as "thick as a brick"?

Of course, this islamist regime rejected by the Iranian people

Has no choice but to spend protection money on any brainles, lazy, cowardly bi vatan mercenary prepared to sell his/her soul and pimp his/her own sister for money to cheer mahmood bimokh and his rahbar up on streets of Beirut or pages of Iranian.com! 

Let these cowardly islamists howl a few more pathetic years on the streets of Beirut and pages of Iranian.com, while digging their own graves. We people of Iran just smile and plan for the future democratic secular Iran.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."