Channel 4: A former member of the Iranian basij militia tells Channel 4 News that he was jailed and mistreated for refusing to assault opposition protesters. "There was a table. I stood on that table for some hours with my hands tied and a rope around my neck. They came a few times and said they'd come to execute me now, or in an hour." The words of a former member of Iran's basij militia who refused to participate in the brutal crackdown on opposition supporters after the disputed presidential elections in June 2009 >>>
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Democracy And Iran
by AlexInFlorida on Thu Feb 18, 2010 07:56 PM PSTSo far, all I see here in all honesty is more proof that Islamic Republic as a tyranny is not significantly worse than USA and no better. Whether its members step forward in large numbers like this video and others or we see Abu Ghraib and US prisons.
This is a reflection of the baseness of the masses, which we see in democracies always.
Monarchy was and is better than both of them. Still it really doesn't matter when the people don't live by values that would allow them to realize it and chose to remain in denial.
No torture in Iran, no problem. Kahrizak? Khamenei? When? Where?
by Anonymouse on Thu Feb 18, 2010 05:22 PM PSTEverything is sacred.
MM jan
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Thu Feb 18, 2010 01:18 PM PSTDo not let false castles of hate built around you
and your dad.
This is very good advise in general. You have one family and it is very imporatant. No matter what happens and what the differences are we should stick to them. My own family has had many ups and downs but we stick together.
He will come around
Gitdoun: even if he does not come around he is still your father. You have to make peace with your family. Do it for your sake and for your whole family, you will be happier.
gitdoun ver.2.0 - convert ur dad w/ kind words and examples
by MM on Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:53 PM PSTfamily is family,
Do not let false castles of hate built around you and your dad. Older folks can be stubborn, especially if they have been religiously following "infallible" ayatollahs. Instead of arguments, think of it as rational debates with examples from both you and your dad. He will come around, once he sees from the big picture of the current position of Iran in the world, to small details as beatings, rapes and killings of innocent people for their thoughts.
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by yolanda on Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:35 PM PSTSo under IRI, even Basijis are expendable!
starts with one
by mahmoudg on Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:30 PM PSTThere are many more, probably in the thousands, who are dissatisfied with the orders they are given. Tha national mood is one of melancholy. The regime knows that the MAJORITY of its population is dissatisfied with the outcome of thirty years of its existence and knows that any day the spark could turn into fire. They also know when attacked (surgically) from the outside, the majority would not do anything to save the regime. All in all the results are good for all, the regime is on a downhill and nothing will save it from crashing into the wall in the end.
VPK
by gitdoun ver.2.0 on Thu Feb 18, 2010 08:42 AM PSTEveryone in my family except my Father is now against the regime. And i constantly have debates/arguements with him when i visit home. There is a big rift between my father and I these days however i have to admit im mostly to blame. I'm just so very angry and bitter for being lied to and deceived with half-truths for the past 24 yrs of my life. It was like when I was born my father fastened these red sunglasses over my eyes and i interperted my world through a red and black lens. But all that changed on June 12th 2009. Every cell phone video during the protests poked holes in my red sunglasses until i could see clearly for the first time in my life. And i knew i was on the wrong side.
Speaking of the KKK...
by AMIR1973 on Thu Feb 18, 2010 08:29 AM PSTIRI's monkey president invited former KKK Grand Wizard, David Duke (along with a bunch of neo-Nazis and Islamists), to Tehran for the holocaust conference a few years back.
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by timothyfloyd on Wed May 12, 2010 09:19 PM PDT.
Plenty of pics of hangings and floggings to view online
by AMIR1973 on Thu Feb 18, 2010 07:38 AM PSTThere are plenty of pictures of the IRI hanging people from cranes and tying them down and flogging them. Just search for Iran AND crane, Iran AND hangings, Iran AND floggings.
There are also prescriptions in the IRI's savage "laws" that stones used for killing adulterers should be neither too big (because they would kill the victim too quickly) nor too small (because they wouldn't "do the job"). Okay, IRI cyber groupies, get to your keyboards and start defending away and explaining how things in Sheytan-e Bozorg (the "Great Satan" for those of you who are Persian-challenged; yeah, that includes you Mark Pirooz aka "Sargord") are much worse and how the Gasht-e Ershad and Fati Commandoha keep hassling you for showing your hair under your hejab. O IRI cyber groupie, why do you choose to deprive yourselves of life under the IRI's paradise? What does the Evil West have that the Democratic People's Islamic Republic of Iran doesn't?
Don't tell me: it's because the chelo kabob is better in America or England. Right?
Why no pictures like Abu Ghraib?
by amgw4 on Thu Feb 18, 2010 07:22 AM PSTSo much "rape," yet the only evidence is shadow puppets from people applying for immigration visas.
Seems to me that some are importing things from American prisons (where rape is virtually guaranteed, so much so that it's mocked regularly by comedians) into their Iran stories.
payam, sargord
by Cost-of-Progress on Thu Feb 18, 2010 05:48 AM PSTdoes not know Tehran...so don't confuse him with all the references. He seems to be familiar with east London though, or Londonistan as it is known for the islamic infestation there......
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IRAN FIRST
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gitdoun ver.2.0
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Thu Feb 18, 2010 05:44 AM PSTHow do you deal with your parents now? Do they still support the IRI. I wonder how families manage these types of disagreement. I wonder how the 60s generation is explaining the IRI to their children.
We were always anti Mullah so we escaped this sort of thing. But some of our friends had youth who supported the revolution. By now they are all on the same page: oppose the IRI 100%.
Pirouz,
by پیام on Thu Feb 18, 2010 02:04 AM PSTWhat about 22 bahman? You mean the massive Green rallies all around Tehran that was confiscated by the I.R.? Or do you mean cutting off the live coverage of AN's speech because of the chanting of the people ( Death to Khamenei)? Or do you mean the empty Shahyaad square filled for a quart with hired stand ins? I guess someone like you who can find his way thorough Internet knows all the above and thus you must be in denial. I wish you a healthy mental sate in the future, something Iranian.com can provide for you by its unbiased news coverage.
This is a rehash from a past
by Sargord Pirouz on Thu Feb 18, 2010 01:20 AM PSTThis is a rehash from a past report using the same fellow. As cited on a previous thread concerning this individual and Ch. 4 News, there are a number of problems with this man's story. And, as was pointed out before, this man is is interested in becoming a resident of the UK, so his motives are definitely suspect to say the least.
Believe what you wish to believe. But I suggest everybody should be more inclined toward the realistic, given the wake up call of 22 Bahman.
I wonder how many basijis feel the same as this guy?
by MM on Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:41 AM PST.
i sympathize with this Ex-Basij
by gitdoun ver.2.0 on Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:12 AM PSTI understand and sympathize with this ex-basij. I know the pain he feels and his upmost regret for supporting the regime. Like him, i too, was a true believer of the I.R.I. system. Personally speaking it was my parents who placed this belief of wilayat faqhi over my eyes, ears, and mind as a child. And with weekly attendance to iranian muslim programs (msapsg) here in los angeles and family friends all supporting this ideology i was absolutely brainwashed into supporting the system and unaware of the brutal realities that the regime posed. I understand this basij when he says his thoughts were not his own. I understand his sense of betrayal and anger at the regime and also at those who lied to him. For none-muslim iranians and irreligious iranian muslims u have to understand we Shias were deceived by a great lie !! And this lie was called Wilayat Faqhi !! Something akin to the christian cult called the Klu Klux Klan of America back in the 1800's. All religions have some manner or form of a cult and for shias it was wilayat faqhi. I am not an apologist of the I.R.I. and I am not defending the regime or the basij. I want the regime to die just as much as anyone else and i want the basij forces disbanded. But what i am asking is for people to understand the power of brainwashing and it's evil consequences.