Iranian of the Day

desi

Good for you. One thing though. Even though they are adults that does not necessarily mean that they are FULLY cognizant of what they are doing. DO all adults know full-well what they are doing at any given time? NO.

I did not suggest that there was anything offensive with the bikinis, nor did i say that buying anything from these women amounts to a prelude to having an affair. All i said, was that many men and young boys, obviously excluding your family, DO in fact take pleasure and satisfaction by watching these women in action which inmany cases gives them the same pleasure as if they were at a nudy bar.

Kourosh, I'm from a small

Kourosh, I'm from a small San Diego beach town.  I'm quite familiar with "half naked women".  I have no problem with bikinis.  These women are selling coffee.  Albeit with some sexuality attached.  They are adult women, fully cognizant of what they're doing.  No harm no foul.  I'm not offended by bikinis or the "woman body".  I also don't believe that getting a caramel machiato by a woman wearing a bathing suit is a prelude to my husband having an affair.  Like I said in about 3 weeks they'll be wearing hoodies so who really cares.  My son and his father surf regularly and are exposed to bikini clad women.  If one wants to sell him a double cap in the interim so be it.  At the end of the day they come home to their Iranian wife/mom and are stoked as hell.

As for Harvard...well that in my opinion is a little over rated but  I am an Iranian mother afterall  and at the end of the day, if that's an option,  well I'll be stoked at that too:)

epc

You are sooooo full it:) You think that you (or anyone else for that matter ) had the mental capacityof getting into a relationship at the tender age of 14?What seriously-minded adult would even think of asking a 14 year old BABY anything about his or her feelings of being in a serious relationship. they probably think he is crazy and would just ignore him.

 Look up "poppy love" and try to understand the difference between than and your first serious relationship at the age of 14. LOL

 Are you sure you were not playing with your toys instead of keeping up with what was happenning in women's liberations movement, or trying to figure out the nature of sexual revolution? LOL are you trying to be funny? Yeah. You are probably right. I let you think that way, knowing full well how many times you actually blown a gasket and went berserk on this site. I am sure those occupy your conscience, no need for new ones.

KS

How do i know you are not lying?

You know because I "guessed" right :)

i did say that i was in serious relationship, which sure qualifies as
knowing and having experienced the practical aspects of being a
"couple" as well. 

My first "serious" relationship was when I was 14. Good thing nobody asked me way back then what my opinions were about the dynamics of being in a relationship, because they would have heard some crazy shit! Even worse (but probably completely opposite) than what you say, because that was back in the 1970s in the midst of both the sexual revolution and women's liberation movement, here in the US. Trust me, you don't even want to know.Based on what I've seen you saying in thsi thread, you'd probably blow a gasket and go apoplectic. And I wouldn't want that on my conscience.

Sure

LOL
I am not merely theorizing, If you bothered to pay any attention, i did say that i was in serious relationship, which sure qualifies as knowing and having experienced the practical aspects of being a "couple" as well.

How do i know you are not lying? I am a novice when it comes to pawning anything off anyone, compared to you.

You don't get to  determine what is "real" and what is not for anyone.

KS

Basically becomes an invalid statement, since it only reflects your opinion of this matter. because "these things" are not part of any standard protocol.

No, but they are part of the human condition :)

I'm not going to argue with you about it. I've got first hand experience on the subject, and you don't. You can theorize about what things are like for couples all you wish, just don't try to pawn off your theories as being based on your real world observations, because you don't have any first hand real world observations on this matter.

EPC

Dude
No i am not suggesting that, nor do i seem to be doing so. All i said was buying coffee or anything from half-naked woman would be akin to going to a strip bar, both are done for a same purpose. Now saying that why in the hell would i "seem" to be saying that unless you are married to a doormat a woman, they won't object?? Only You the god of exaggeration, might come out thinking that!

If women "seem" to be coming to grips with men having wandering eyes, then hey so much the better. Having wandering eyes is a launching pad for starting an affair and those who have them are more than likely to have cheated on their spouses.

So,
"There's only one explanation for why you wouldn't know these things :) "

Basically becomes an invalid statement, since it only reflects your opinion of this matter. because "these things" are not part of any standard protocol.

lol

You are right. I have never been married (one big lucky guess there, I am sure).

Lucky guess!? Dude, you seemed to be claiming that women would be OK with their husbands hanging out in strip clubs. Not unless you married a doormat! And on the other hand, women seem to be pretty understanding about their guy's tendency to have wandering eyes, and don't object too much unless it becomes an embarrasment. No guessing required. There's only one explanation for why you wouldn't know these things :)

And btw I wasn't trying to insult you. We've all been there.

Desi

Sure you would.

I guess you must be a very liberal and open-minded mother then. For all we know, many iranian moms or even  americanmoms on average are dead against their "teens" looking at girls with their breasts hanging out, even if they are selling them admission to Harvard. Your assertion of the choice you would make facing the bad and the worst is far from the reality.

EPC

You are right. I have never been married (one big lucky guess there, I am sure). But as far making a statement without having any basis for it you could not be more wrong.

What's the harm?

Live and let live.

To Siavash31

Bottom line is that they do not heart any body. We have a choice of buying coffe from them or not. Although I am not a big coffe drinker but I probably will be there at lease once a day.

Kaveh is right.  The

Kaveh is right.  The average attention span of a San Diegan is pretty low, Especially in Clairemont.  Besides their business isn't going to be very profitable in 2 weeks.  It's starting to get chilly around here and I don't know too many bikinis made of fleece.  For the people who are worried about the location of this particular stand and its proximity to schools...I'd rather my middle schooler get a latte from a scantily clad barista in a coffee trolley then smoke weed behind the bleachers after school whilst trying to get it on with a prepubescent girl.

Desi, aka mom to a middle school boy with an attention span of a sand flea. 

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Hi Natalia,

      Your post really cracked me up! I only have one short suggestion: if these 2 girls want to continue wearing bikins and selling coffee during winter, they may have to convert their coffee house into a sauna, this way they can still brew the coffee in bikinis and sell it without getting sick! 

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   Take care!

Re: Yolanda...interesting dilemma indeed

for two young and vivacious entrepeneurs. Let's see if we can provide some alternatives in an effort to help them brain storm. Shall we?

There is the option of them wearing some warm cat suit outfit which would allow them to show, just the right amount of cleavage and not catch a cold.

The other option would be for them to wear some of those warm snow bunnies type outfits. I have heard women wear when skiing or snow boarding. Ample amount of warmth and sex appeal to keep their business going until warmer times return.

Besides they will have already developed a faithful customer base by now.

What do you think?

PS: Heck! I figured if the men can waste so much time on breasts and don't have any. By Heaven we that actually are blessed with them can spend twice the amount of time discussing such an issue. :o)

hahahahaha

Americanized.

Apart from American dreams trolling. I would like to say this is not the way to liberate women, this is just as bad as making them think they're safe in a burka. You wouldn't call the average American women who has multiple husbands and kids from different fathers a "liberated women" now would you? this is leaning more towards how Animals live.

 But whatever, as long as they keep their "Culture" out of our country, then we're fine.

KS

How the hell do you know? are you Utilizing  your psychic abilities again?

Well, I suppose it's possible that you believe women would feel no differently about their husbands hanging out in a strip club than they do about their husbands eying girls in bikinis at a coffee shop (or at the beach or the swimming pool,for that matter).

If so, then I have to assume that you've never been married. And never been in a serious relationship, either. In which case you are asserting something to be true with no basis for making the assertion.

To koorosh10

Prostitution is not just "sleeping" with people for money. Selling sexuality, nudity and sexual pleasure for money are all various forms of prostitution. Or at least is it the same concept.

But I don't really care if the term "prostitution" legally applies in the above situation or not. What makes me outraged is that a young girl is using her naked body to sell a few more coffees or get a little more tip from strangers and people here are applauding her. And they think they are being "open minded" and are supporting "democracy"!!

No one here, including Mr Nothing-is-sacred-ultraliberal Jahanshah Javid, would approve of their own daughter doing the same. Stop pretending to be something you are not. 

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Hi Natalia,

     I like your post......I don't know about the weather in Texas, but here, in California, the weather is getting cold. I wonder if the 2 girls are still wearing bikinis selling coffee. If they wear bikinis, they can get sick. If they get sick, they can't go to work anymore, and then their income (or profit) will drop. But if they wear more clothes, I doubt that guys will still tip 50% to buy their coffee......The guys can just get coffee from fully-clothed girls working in Starbucks, they don't need to tip in Starbucks, and the coffee may taste better also.......It is not easy to become a millionaire by the age of 25!

Twilight Zone

There are plenty of good articles and stories like Occupation and instead men are arguing over breasts.

For your information the women are going to do whatever the HELL they want regardless of what men think.

So keep arguing until you turn blue in the face. Nothing is going to change.

Unfreakin believable! lol

hahaha :o)

EPC

I don't? Says who? you? LOL. Give yourself a break.

You are just so sure of yourself aren't ya?

If you must know Yes. It is the same damn thing. In both cases we have a man who is looking at Breasts to satisfy urges that do not get satisfaction elsewhere.

You don't even buy that line yourself, so why are you trying to pawn it off on me?

How the hell do you know? are you Utilizing  your psychic abilities again?

KS

So let me get this straight... you think the average American wife is going to view it the same way if her husband is hanging out in strip clubs every night as she does if he's eyeballing a girl in a bikini at a coffee shop?

You don't even buy that line yourself, so why are you trying to pawn it off on me?

EPC

Socially acceptable? Any society in general turns such absurd behavor down. There maybe a minority who accepts it, but that would not make it anywhere near socially acceptable. A man who wants to make a point of looking at someone's chi chi's could care less whether it takes a cup of coffee or going to a club. either way he will get his fill.

Americans are that prudish.  and you should be ableto use your line a million times:)

KouroshS

If it is about men gertting attention from a pretty girl, they can go
to a strip club and experience approaching a pretty woman and get a
smile all in one shot.

Going to strip clubs is a lot less socially acceptable than buying coffee on the way to work though. Especially for all the married guys!

When I was a jid I went to a high school that used to do car washes during the summer to raise money for school programs. There were always girls wearing bikinis holding up the signs advertising it. Nobody had any problem with that... and these were high school girls, not college students... and that was a long time ago. Are Americans really becoming so prudish? At this rate I'm never going to be able to use my grouchy-old-man "This country is going to hell in a handbasket!" line :(

Smart??

Oh sure.

I am willing to bet that she borrowed the idea from the show "apprentice" where girls would strip to sell lemonade. Does anyone remeber that? it was in 2003 and there was a huge controversy over it.

It is very unfortunate that pretty much anything qualifies as "smart marketing approach". Give me a break. If it is about men gertting attention from a pretty girl, they can go to a strip club and experience approaching a pretty woman and get a smile all in one shot.

Fresh milk...

I guess you can get really fresh milk with your coffee here...from the source directly to the product...

What's the big deal?

The hype over this will subside, sooner rather than later, knowing the attention span of the average San Diegan is on par with that of your average rabbit.

My 2 Favorite Woody Allen Movies

Good to see Woody Allen buffs here.. Thanx for the Clip Mr. Kadivar - here is a clip from two of my favorite Woody movies - "Love & Death" and "Play it Again Sam". 

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nxp07vM_r0

 //www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktunz4gpQcM

Claremont is right down the

I think this girl is very smart. Guys aren't really used to being able to walk up to a hot girl in a bikini and start talking to her, and having her be nice to them instead of ignoring them. If it was some crusty old guy who hired waitresses to wear bikinis, I would probably feel differently but since this is her own idea and she's the one who is putting herself out there I say more power to her!

EDIT: removed everything I said about the town. Different clairmont!

Darius

Mariam Amiri

That is nice that you were born and raised in a European country.  You should think like a liberated European Iranian woman.  Don't be like those Hizb'Allahees.  God bless these women for doing such a good deed.  It is all about good deeds, good thoughts and good speech.