Iranian of the Day

Dear NiMeum71

Forgot something
As I told you, honestly, I'm not Iranian, but I'm very very proud of my Iranian wife. In addition of being the most beautiful women in the world (as Iranian women are the most beatiful), she's giving me all the feelings of security, happiness and support. We've been sharing these amazing feelings and we both are quite sure that only death will seperate us from each other. After I had the worst experiences with western girls, this Iranian girl showed me the opposite. Showed me the meaning of love and faith for each other. She showed me how great, how lovely and how fabulous is the TYPICAL IRANIAN woman.

Dear MiNeum71

This outrage and anger is revealing the inferiority complex you are in. I didn't say anything bad or insulting. You felt insulted just because I remind you about your psychological problem, your desperate struggle to show that you are a European while you are not. Immediately you lost your self-control and started to use offensive words... calm down.
It's truly OK if you like the values of Europe as many of these values are pretty good, but the problem is that you talk exactly like the RACIST Europeans. You are serving those racists while they are despising you as they despise all other races. You are living a big problem, that's why I feel sorry for you... especially when you say WE (Europeans)... funny

They should have taught you at school that secular rules do not inforce anybody to behave secular. Secular rules don't compel any person to dress or behave in any specific way. So Turks are not violating secularism if they don't want to drink alcohol.
I'm not Iranian, but I know many Iranians who are very proud of their great history, their great culture and their warm family values. They are happier than millions and millions of poor Europeans who are living alone without families. Yes, that's the difference, Europeans that you worship are sad with their loneliness, missing the sweet happiness and safety of being in secure warm families. This happened exactly in the time when they gave up their religions for the great value of absolute freedom.

Now, you are living the misery of a lonely westerner with the misery of not being a real european!!
Take care Mr SOMEBODY... you should see a psychiatrist before this OGHDEH kills you

Dear "mansor12121",

I didn't insult you personally, but you did. You are a typically Iranian Oghde-ee and Bee-Farhang, and how do you want to know, if I suffered a lot after 9/11, you typically Iranian Bee Sho-ur?. And you are Bee-savad, otherwise you would know, that freedom of belief ends when secular laws begin, and that the graves were defaced 2007/08 because of Islam problems since 2006 and not because of 9/11. Europe is really not perfect, nobody claimd that, but much, much better than all other regions on this earth.

I treat everyone with respect as long they deserve it, but if they exceed this limit, then I will expose them limitations. You insulted me personally, that proves your standard. You are a typically Mr. Nobody.

Dear NiMeum71

You accused me of being a lair! OK... you always have the absolute reality to teach people. Only one example about the (typical muslim lies!!), you said "not one Muslim's grave was insulted in (at least Western) Europe".... here we go:
//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7333344.stm
Yes, not one muslim's grave!! they were only 148, just in this example (I can give you too many others if you want)

There are many people who are trying their best to take off their backgrounds, their IDs. I do really feel sorry for them, because I'm quite sure how much they are suffering. I can imagine the huge efforts they've made to convince Europeans that they are not Muslims anymore, not middle easterners anymore, that they are EUROPEANS. And, everytime they discover that many Europeans keep regarding them as Muslems!! Those people will not stop kissing asses and will never be recognised as Europeans by the real Europeans.
You know very well, as everbody does, that there are many racist in Europe (some times up to 20% of people) and they are everywhere in Europe as they are everywhere in the world
//www.enar-eu.org
But also you can find really good Europeans. They are very humanitarian and they do respect other cultures and other beliefs.

You don't want Turkey in the EU because Turks are not behaving secular... OMG that's very funny.. what about Freedom of Belief!! isn't it a major element of human rights? so if you believe in human rights and still doesn't want Turks for this reason... obviously you have the complex, and not anybody else
You have the complex of not being European from the first place. You suffered a lot after 9/11.
I really don't have time for this vicious cycle of discussion

Dear "mansor12121",

1) Nobody just watched, what happened in Bosnia. Not the so perfect Moslem countries helped them against Serbia, but the Christian EU (and Bosnia was and is not in the heart of the EU).

2) We don't want Turkey in the EU not because of their religion, but because of many of the Turkish people not living secular and because of the patriarchal system. Many of the Turkish living in Austria and Germany are backward, uneducated, paradoxally hate the Western but enjoy it living here.

3) Human rights refers to the basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are entitled. It is universal and not cultural relativ. A society can be called improved, when they treat their women, minorities, criminals and animals well. These my my ethical standards. And, yes, this makes the difference between right and wrong. And, no, no different norms are allowed.

4) If Moslems don't agree with what I say, they can live their own lives in their own countries. So why do they live in Europe (besides, I know that secular Moslems loved these cartoons and agree with what we say, and we say the same things about the Christians and the Jews)? And why should we accept their bombs (of the Islamists) when they even can't accept our cartoons?

5) I know that many Moslems suffered a lot after 9/11. But not one Mosque was burned and not one Muslim's grave was insulted in (at least Western) Europe. Maybe this is this typically Islamist way of lying like they did after the cartoons were published in Denmark.

6) Europe is not USA, and Europeans are very different to the US-Americans. If you want me to differentiate Moslems and Islamists, then you should be able to do it yourself. If you want to bash USA, I´m by your side, so there is no need to write these things for me.

7) There is one thing male Moslems and Mid Easts can be accused for, this is their egos, no laid-back people always want to be right. It's absurd to feel pain because of cartoons.

Dear MiNeun71

You didn't answer my question regarding these elected administrations that are not less savage and criminal than Bin Laden. At least Muslims can say "we didn't choose Bin Laden to represent us, we hate him". What would be the answer for the French people with all the dirty role of the French governments in many of the African civil wars (not the last one 2 years ago in Ivory Coast)? Can they say they don't represent us? No they can't
Hundreds of thousands of Bosnian Muslims were killed, raped and injured in the heart of Europe. This happened over many months and the civilized! Europe was watching!!
Ok... you will immediately say that we Muslims suffer from a complex! but I can't understand the frank opposition of European officials to the membership of the SECULAR Turkey in the European Union other than a more profound complex.... just because Turkey is a Muslim nation, and some of them said that honestly!!
In regards to your question about the assholes Islamists who live in Europe, you should ask Americans not me. Because those assholes are all a new phenomenon of not more than 30 years of age while Islam has been for 1400 years.
Those asshole WAHABIS, assholes TALABANIS, asshole criminals are American creations. Should I remind you about the story of Afghanistan during the 80s and the unlimited logistic, informational and even the structural American support in association with the Saudis? should I remind you that before 11/9, only 5 countries officially recognised criminal Talabans as the legitimate government of Afghanstan one of these five was the USA!!! how innocent is the American government!!

I'm surprised about what you mentioned, what is right and what is wrong. Who has the right to impose his/her ethical standards on others!!? who determines what is offensive for me and what is not? who says if someone is dead can be trifled or despised? According to what and on which criteria? Muslims represents almost 1/4 of the worlds population they don't agree with what you say. Other big cultures like the Chinese and Indians have their own different norms as well. Don’t forget the many other cultures in Asia and Africa. Why should we comply with the western rules?

You said that if the accusation is right then we should accept it. Apparently saying that the cartoon was reflecting the reality. Can you show me please any evidence you've got that Mohammed was instructing his followers to attack innocent people? If someone in Fiji Islands is announcing that Hitler was a good man, I regard this as an insult to humanity, because Hitler was declaring himself frankly as the symbol of racism. All people should feel offended, not only his victims.

Barbarian Talabans committed the insult of destroying Buddha's statues in Afghanistan. It was a crime not only because these statues where big legacy for all humanity, but most importantly, because this act hurt the feelings of many Buddhists around the world. This concept is hard for you to understand.

So you haven't seen any embassies attacked or people kidnapped in the west... ok, again, I should remind you. I should remind you that many middle easterners were attacked (some of them were killed) in America after 11/9 just because they were middle easterners. Many Mosques were burnt and many Muslim's graves were insulted. This happened not only in America but in many other western countries. Unlike you, I can understand these reactions because they are, in terms of sociology, normal reactions. Because people are different even in the same culture. There are emotional people, there are uneducated and even RACISTS. I understand the reactions of those people who felt the pain and reacted wrongly to it but I do not justify it for them. As I don't justify the crimes of those terrorists who claim to be muslims!! There excuse that the American government is mostly evil and this government was elected by people, is totally a rubbish excuse.

Dear "mansor12121",

There is also a freedom of expression, and feeling upset and angry is very human but this must not be a violence endagering lives: E.g. Danish police arrested several people with a Muslim background suspected of conspiring to kill Kurt Westergaard (cartoonist), two Tunisians (deported) and a 40-year old Danish citizen of Moroccan descent (released after interrogation); the Danish and Norwegian embassies in Syria were set ablaze; the Danish embassy in Tehran was torched; and what was this //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkari-Laban_dossier? Only a sight-seeing tour? If Europe is so bad why do all these Islamic asswholes don´t get out here? Nobody needs them.

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Holocau... was held in Iran in 2006, I don't know any story when Europeans attacked Iranian embassies or kidnapping any Iranians. But instead of acting the goat the Jews did this: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_antisemitic_c.... This is the difference between backward and cultivated. 

And regarding to your example, there is difference between personal insult and religious challenge. You are not allowed to accuse one until this person is adjudged, otherwise this is an offence. And there is also a difference between a public and a private person, public persons must be able to face sarcasm. And there is also a difference between alive and dead persons. By the way, if that mom had done all those bad things, then this is a fact and it must be accepted anyway. Making those informations public can be a problem because of the data protection.

I am convinced, Moslems (generally) suffer from complexes, and the average level of social culture in Europe is higher than in the USA and much higher than in the Islamic countries.

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The modern, secular society is rejected by some Muslims. They demand a special position, insisting on special consideration of their own religious feelings. It is incompatible with contemporary democracy and freedom of speech, where you must be ready to put up with insults, mockery and ridicule. It is certainly not always attractive and nice to look at, and it does not mean that religious feelings should be made fun of at any price, but that is of minor importance in the present context. [...] we are on our way to a slippery slope where no-one can tell how the self-censorship will end. (Flemming Rose)

Dear MiNeum71

It's really good that you differentiate Muslims from hypocrite (Islamists).
1. As I mentioned, I believe that Americans are generally very good people. I agree with you that the adminstrations are committing the crimes not the people. However, these adminstrations are democratically elected.
The very evil theory of Osama bin Laden is that westerners deserve punishment because they, themselves, bring these governments. When many Americans and Brits are aware about how evil their governments are and the huge murders that happened. They are aware that it's happening for many decades but they are doing nothing about it!!! It, either means that they support their bloody adminstrations or they are totally careless and apathetic about the victims. For those oppressed people, they see westerners, (when it comes to elections) only concerned about economy while their governments are killing them and destroying their lives.
Now, I'm asking you, what can we tell those victims about their query to defeat Bin Laden's mean theory?
Though most Muslims don't hate Americans, it's hard to avoid the idea that some of them do. Hard as long as we can't find a convincing answer for this query. Hard, as they are suffering a lot.

2. About your second point, the majority of Islamists are againsit Osama and his terror. Most of the victims of Bin Laden's idiology are Muslims and different Islamists. This criminal is similar to Mr George Bush in the saying "If you are not with us, then you are againist us"!!
Many Islamist are activley fighting Bin Laden's sick and ugly thoughts. But many of them believe in treating the cause of this sickness as the real remedy.
The US is fully supporting a retarded, inhuman, diabolic, corrupt autocracy like that in Saudi Arabia, in which no meaning of human rights exists. In which women are not even allawed to drive cars!!! While, in the same time, the US adminstration is shouting for women's rights in Iran!! As long as these double standards are very active in the western policy, more and more sick-minded people will be there.
3. You've been annoyed by the (noise) made by the muslims for the (harmless!) cartoon. You didn't answer my question, ok, here is another one.
Are you going to be annoyed if the son and relatives of that mother (my previous comment) protest againist the writer of the book who described her as a dirty whore and a careless mother?
Another point, you can't blame that son for expressing his rejection and anger, if his brother was careless about that book. So you can't blame Muslims for their anger because Christians are not showing anger for Jesus.
What is so difficult for me to understand, is your (open mindedness) about the cartoon as part of freedom of expression, and, in the same time, your rejection for people expressing their anger about it!!!! a very disturbing niose for you!!!! WHAT ABOUT FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION
In the same way it's illogical sometimes to control all the reactions of protesters as some of them could be very emotional. Some of the Greens had furious reactions becuase they were angry for the value of nature

Dear "mansor12121",

I have never, never insulted the religion Islam, nor Mohammed. I was born as a Moslem, I´ve read Koran in four different languages, understood at least two of them (read also both Testaments in two different languages), now I call myself Agnostic, but I'm full of respect for peaceful people of any religion.

My points of view were:

1) I differentiated Moslems and Islamists. The backwar Islamists misuse the religion for their own aims. And this must be denounced.

2) USA and GB killed many people in the last 100 years, but the wars were made by their administrations; today's Islamists are ordinary people full of hate, and IF these Islamists are against terrorism, why they do it themselves but get mad with only pointing it out.

3) I didn't use the freedom of opinion for USA's wars, but for these cartoons. And this whole story was ridiculous, making noise after half an year for such harmless cartoons. I see the same concerning Jesus everyday. And?

By the way, between 1980 and 1988 31 countries delivered arms to Iraq, 27 countries to Iran (also USA).

Dear MiNeum71

Ok.. Let me clarify it for you. Regardless of you being an American or not, I believe that the very vast majority of Americans who embrace the belief of liberal democracy are sincerely good people. I, also, do believe that liberal democracy possesses enormous advantages. Yet, if I used to live in Chile in 1974 and I, myself, witnessed the absolute American support to a savage, brutal, atrocious dictator like Pinochet, WHAT SHOULD HAVE MY REACTION BEEN TOWARDS AMERICA?
With active support from the CIA[4][5] From the beginning, the government (of Pinochet) implemented harsh measures.[6] According to the 2004 Valech Report, at least 80,000 were incarcerated without trials and 30,000 subjected to torture. Another 200,000 people went into exile.
For those Chilean victims at that time, The US was representing the liberal domocracy. IS IT OK FOR YOU if Chileans believe that Americans are evil terrorists because their elected government actively participated in the massacre? For me, it's NOT OK, simply because it's not fair to have this judgement.
The same is applied for Iraqis and Iranians. While Saddam was killing hundreds of thousands of Iranians as well as his fellow Iraqis using whatever sorts of weapons available, he had the infinite assistance from the US government. For many years, Saddam was receiving the chemical components from West Germany under the direct supervision of the CIA to use them againist Iran and his people. Ironically, many of the surviving chemical weapons victims were being treated in West Germany as well!!! How ugly and immoral.
The USA has been, for several decades, potently supporting a very long list of criminal tyrants and dictatorships around the 3rd world that claimed the lives of MILLIONS of innocent people and rendered the lives of other hundreds of millions into a horrible hell. Those barbarian tyrants would never dream to stay in power without the American support. Not to mention here the direct crimes carried out by the Americans themselves in Vietnam, Iraq or other parts of the world. After all of this, it's still unfair to criticise the western liberal democracy for this massive terror.
Along human kind history, whenever there have been good concepts, they always would have been accompanied by bad people making use of them. This, undoubdedlly, does not mean that we should abandon these pretty notions because whatever the thoughts we adopt there will be some people to ride on them.

Obviously, I'm saying, here, that you are accusing Mohammed (or may be Jesus the Christ as well) without having the minimal knowledge about him, exactly when Chileans accusing liberal domocracy. It's absolutely partial preconception lacking any level of objectivity when this judgement is to be taken without a sound base. You don't know, for example, Quran clearly states that killing any innocent human of any belief is as bad as killing all human beings, and saving the life of any human is as good as saving all humanity. That Mohammed said to his followers "The one who hurts any innocent non-muslim, is hurting me (Mohammed) personally". That he said "To expect the mercy from God, you should be mercifull with all the people on earth". That Mohammed's family were the first victims of the bad people who made all the wickedness in the name of Islam. That Islamic civilisation was the first and only one in history to allow other religions followers to live peacefully and to protect them as citizens.
Those who are following Mohammed, they are doing so for these and other high values they believe Mohammed taught them. That's why they feel offended when someone unfairly, ignorantly or, perhaps, intentionally despises him. Similarly, somebody who spent his early life learning practically from his mother about all the meanings of virtue. He was overwhelmed by her care, love and sympathy. After the death of his mother whom he greatly loves and respects, someone wrote a book about her. In that book he says " she was a dirty bitch, entirely careless about her son". The writer wrote this by the name of freedom of thoughts. Can you ask her son not to feel offended? not to feel angry?
If Donald Rumsfield who was Saddam's friend and a CIA chief is a bad criminal, it's unfair to blame Liberal Democracy. If Osama Bin Laden is a bad criminal, it's unfair to blame Islam.

Dear "mansor12121",

If you had read The Satanic Verses or seen the Mohammed Cartoons, then you would have known that both agigations were just bullshits caused by backward Islamists. Nobody had insulted any religious feelings.

Any mistakes? Rushdie´s third dream sequence, which presents the figure of a fanatic expatriate religious leader, a transparent allusion to the life of Ayatollah Khomeini in his Parisian exile? Kurt Westergaard´s Mohammed with a bomb in his turban, thus showing a tie between Islam and terrorism, those terrorism, which has killed thousands of civilians in New York, London, Bali, Madrid, Casablanca and Istanbul, where the dirty deeds were done in the name of Allah the Merciful?

If terrorism is an insult against Islam, why don't you fight terrorism instead of getting mad with a Danish artist, whose only crime is that he's pointing out your ostrich-like denial.

This all happens because of Moslem´s suffer from complexes.

Dear "anonymous fish",

This is exactly the reason why it´s difficult for me to understand. This once again proves my theory:
Religious leaders and practitioners are ALL wussies ;)

Showing respect is crucial

It doesn't show that this man expressed any level of disrespect. He's just revealed his disagreement with the concept in a manner, wholeheartedly, not to be descibed less than courteous and civilized. Perhaps, he thought it was necessary to manifest his notion otherwise would be considered as endorsing the others, at least for himself.
He's diametrically different from Salman Rushdi or the Danish comic painter who had nothing but dirty subjective contempts without any concerns about others feelings. I'm really surprised that many westerners still! can't comprehend the huge differece between freedom and disrespect as I've been always thinking that only (less civilized!) people chronicly have this problem.

Mi

sure... being pissed off is one thing.  i'm not saying i'm personally not offended, being a catholic.  but if i do believe in freedom of speech, opinion, etc., then i'd have to acknowledge that as a muslim or an atheist or whatever, he's got the right to say he thinks it's BS.  i'd have to think that "the man" himself isn't going to get bent out of shape if someone doesn't believe in him.  it's not like he "took his name in vain".  :-)

it just seems to be blown way out of proportion.  and that makes me wonder exactly what the agenda really is.

Dear "anonymous fish",

On the one hand this is cultural award, and one of the European cultural achievements is to question religions and religious authorities.

On the other hand, when you criticise the most important religious symbol of a religion, you can´t wonder why their representatives are pissed off.

In Germany a heavy discussion is going on, what secularism, concerning religion, is allowed to do.

Mi

somehow i got here from the other blog (following the different links)...:-)

personally, i think it's much ado about nothing.  what happened to freedom of opinion?  if i understand it correctly, then i don't support the withdrawal. 

anonymoses

That is hilarious! Thank you for that.

Dear "mrudzio",

I´m sorry, I should have known better ;)

Not Me

Dear MiNeum71

I understand your frustration. But don't blame me.

I had nothing to do with this specific Iranian of the Day article.

As JJ explained in his comment below, he did it all, and put my name on the bottom. (See his comment "Source" below)

I recommended a different news agency's story about Kermani for the news section. That's all. And it's still there.

As for copying and pasting your comment.....that's not anything to do with me either.

regards,

mrudzio 

mrudzio

I´ve just noticed your copy&paste-job concerning my comment as well as the article in Deutsche Welle. This is cocky.

By the way, you were overambitious: Author Navid KermaniBildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Kermani's personal reflection is at the centre of this dispute doesn´t fit.

Good job :)))

Dear "HateIRI",

I don´t know where you live and if you have even seen the pictures, watched the movies and read the papers you are writing about. I guess this is the typically Iranian Chert-o Pert.

The great non-Iranian value is called freedom of belief. You show Nationalism, the same illness caught by the Shah-Iran and the IRI. We Christian Europeans don´t kill people only because of a personal view. Compare the Christian countries with the Islamic countries, Germany with Saudi Arabia, Netherlands with Indonesia, Sweden with Somalia, Austria with Iran.

No chance. :)))

Can someone else reveal to us ...? Yes

//www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/kultur/literatur_und...

I don´t know who wrote this Iranian of the day, but this is very poor journalism. Aren´t there any publishers responsible for this? I appreciate when the publishers publish and feauture more good contributions and less the bad articles and blogs, which are written by their friends. Compared to Iranian 2007, the journalistic quality of the Iranian 2009 has sunk. 

Summary:

Navid Kermani, orientalist (and not a Muslim author), wrote an article, which was published in Neue Zürcher Zeitung (Swiss quality newspaper) in March 2009. In this article he criticises the distortion of religious texts. In the religious lessons at school the Bible shows a God for good sensations, also God is maintained everybody loves. But if you consider Sermon on the Mount and other parts of the Bible you recognise their acts of violence. Kermani also recognises a similar distortion in Islam and the passages oriented to power of the Koran. In conclusion he rejected the cross theology with blasphemy and Idolatry:

I consider the crucifix is a negative symbolism. Not that I respect the people less who pray to the crucifix than other praying people. This is not an accusation. It is a rejection. Because I take seriously what it shows, I reject the crucifix all around. Besides, the hypostasis of pain is barbarian and anti-carnal, showing ingratitude toward the creation whom we should enjoy ... [I must apologize I´m sure that both my summary and translation show latent Germanism ;)]

The German State of Hesse hands its € 45,000 Hessian Cultural Prize to honour the cultural achievements annualy in July. Hesse had dedicated interreligious dialogue to this year´s cultural award, and had planned to hand this year´s prize jointly to a Jew, a Muslim, a Catholic and a Lutheran to honour the cultural achievements of the monotheistic religions.

It is not without a hint of irony, that two of the winners (Catholic Cardinal Karl Lehmann of Mainz and Peter Steinacker, former head of the Lutheran church of Hesse and Nassau) showed exactly the opposite when they objected to sharing the culture prize (the fourth recipient is a Jewish leader, Salomon Korn).

By the way, this can happen in a banana republic like the USA or Saudi Arabia, but should not happen in a liberal and cultural improved country like Germany. Navid Kermani´s article was not the right piece, although excellent, to support the interreligious dialague, but still it must be possible to talk about it and not behave childishly sanctioning an award.  

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Dear Hamid Y. Javanbakh, Kermani didn´t criticise the Cross, but the crucifix. 

Dear Arash Kamangir, Kermani was not misunderstood just because of his Iranian background, and nobody has to pay these days heavily because of a background which has a bad name in the present world (typically Iranian paranoia, blaming others whilst looking for mercy because we generally Gonah Dareem?). He wrote that praying to the crucifix is quite an absurd acting. This is also my personal opinion, but it´s not a great support of interreligious dialogue.

Dear benbagheri, Ali P. and Parham, I hope I could help ;)

"Do you think that "divooneh

"Do you think that "divooneh " and "divine" have the same linguistic root?"

Yep... divine roots from dius/deva/deev (indo-european). I'm guessing deevaneh comes from the word deev, which is a monster, or a supernatural creature/diety in indo-persian. deevaneh would presumably be someone possessed by a deev or by the divine.

The Equivariant Cross

The symbolism has more to do with the metaphysical philosophy of Aristotle's four elements and the fifth spirit, probably more like paganism than idolatry, which one finds influences of in four great world religions (my categories): Judeo-Christianity (water), Islam (earth), Buddhism (air), & Hinduism (fire), what is the (spirit)?

Gott ist Geist. 

Since I do speake de Germania

Do you think that "divooneh " and "divine" have the same linguistic root?

Source

I changed the news story and quoted Deutsche Welle instead. I hope it makes better sense. The other news story is here.

What a hypocrites the Europeans ae, so called civilized nations

When Salman Rushdie depicted Prophet Muhammad as pedophile and child molester he was regarded as an outspoken critic of Islam and was awarded by the British and European.

When magazines in Denmark and Netherlands made fun of prophet Mohammad and Islam and the Muslim world showed its rage, the so called European nations and the civilized world defended those publications and regarded them as the core value of their beliefs.

When the dutch filmmaker referred to Muslims as Hannibal and portrayed them and their lifestyle as uncivilized again North Americans and European countries defended that.

Now when the table is turnaround look what happens? That is funny isn't.

Hypocrisy and lie and deception is the core value of the N. American and and European nations.

I agree with Ali and Parham

This report doesn't reveal much sense. May be because of its translation to English. Can someone else reveal to us what is going on; what did he really say and what is his background? Why was he a candidate for this award in the first place?

As if the wole world is waiting on that...

I reserve MY judgment until I know what the hell is going on...

Kermani is secular as one can be

I know Navid Kermani quite well through years of living in Germany. He is one of most intelligent and secular writers and intellectuals which you can find and those of us Iranians abroad should be very much proud of him. He must have been misunderstood by some in Germany just because of his Iranian background. We all have to pay these days heavily because of a background which has a bad name in the present world.