Misc

Maya

I apologize if you felt offended by any of the comments I left. I love Zoroastrians. And also, please don't blame Iranians for any of my comments. I'm not Iranian :)

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Thanx

Its really nice but Im disappointed it's not a zartoshti song, or music. Its not as if there aren't many to choose from.

This is one of my favourites:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BFWEi4FqtI

Its a well known tune and they could have put new words into it

Javaneh

DK

When it comes to regions under the control of the Romans, it's hard to know which cultural and genetic influences were transimitted, and in which direction. The Romans used to recruit auxilliary units from amongst local populations and later move them to other parts of the empire, as needed. They also had quite an active and mobile "civil service" of sorts, though they didn't call it that. But even before the Romans, the Celts seem to have really gotten around. I was studying up on an unrelated topic a while back and was surprised to read that the ancient Thracians seem to have been Celts. That really surprised me!

I agree with you about CS Lewis. His mixture of Christianity and other mythologies is part of what made his works so interesting. I enjoyed his books immensely when I was a kid. I think Tolkien was more influenced by Mercia and the pre-Christian myths/stories/whatever they were of the Angles on the European continent. Although, I suppose there still could have been some cross-over even there :)

Also JJR Tolkien and CS Lewis Were Influenced by Shahnameh

The Narnia Chronicles of C.S LEwis and JRR Tolkiens Lord of The Rings were influenced by the Shahnameh ( partially) particularly the Narnia Chronicles since Lewis was very much fascinated by Persian Mythology in general.

This was confirmed in his letters and correspondents with Tolkien and other writers. They were Re Edited recently in a book available on amazon:

Collected Letters of C.S. Lewis Cambridge 1950- 1963

Also Read my article Here:

//www.payvand.com/news/09/mar/1184.html

George Dumezil is also another Authority on Indo European langua

The Late French Academician George Dumezil is also another Authority on Indo European languages.

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Dum%C3%A9zil

and official website

//bibulus2.nexenservices.com/dumezil/en/index.php

He worked greatly on Ancient Languages and particularly Indo European languages and mythology.

And also established a TriFunctional Theory of Ancient Indo European Societies:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trifunctional_hypothesis

It is actually possible that the Romans may have brought a great deal of influences and even populations which they dispatched at different parts of the Empire after defeating their foes in the Middle East particularly during the Parthian and Sassanid eras where Rome was opposed to the Persian Empire or when it conquered former Persian vassels in Palestine, Syria or Anatolia.

The Romans adopted the Persian God of War Mithra and erected temples across the Roman Empire in Europe. So it is quite possible that some of this influence may have also penetrated Ireland and Great Britain.

Some claimed that King Arthur was a Celtic personification of Cyrus the Great ...

Irish-Iranian connection

Francesca Speranza Wilde (1821-1896) aka Lady Jane Wilde (Eglee) born in Dublin, Ireland was a poet, folklorist and Irish nationalist for independence. She has written books and manuscripts on Ancient Legends, Mystic Charms, and Superstitions of Ireland, as well as Words of Women. Please see //www.libraryireland.com/AncientLegendsSuperstitions/Introduction.php for a sample of her writings and purchase her books on www.amazon.com . In her manuscripts she clearly demonstrates the origin of language and spiritual rituals of the Irish people deeply rooted in the Persian/Iranian origin. She deciphers twenty words in all contemporary European languages especially Gaelic (Guilak in Persian along the Caspian Sea!) which philologists consider should have belonged to the original tongue that came with the migrations from the east via Iran of the distant past. Due to its isolations from the mainland Europe in general, evidenced by the unadulterated dialect in Erin, a much smaller sequestered island west of the green Emerald Island beyond which lies the vast ocean in particular, Irish language is nearer to Sanskrit via the Iranian languages than any other living and spoken language in Europe.
//www.irandokht.com/editorial/index4.php?area=org&sectionID=14&editorialID=3338

 By Joseph Allen Lennon

//books.google.com/books?id=XeExr2wrd8IC&pg=PA97&lpg=PA97&dq=irish-persian+connection%2Bhistory&source=bl&ots=_ZkmZtoH99&sig=vflmrORFbFFUzfsfeNyN7Wwg97M&hl=en&ei=Imx8StDpJIeSMaSzjOIC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3#v=onepage&q=&f=false

DK

Thanks for the link! I'm fascinated by the Celts, even though the only thing Celtic about me is my name - "Craig". Of all the Western Europeans, the Celts seem (to me) to have stayed closest to their roots!

And this one is neither one

But what the hell...

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_neOGeee9k

Face to face
my lovely foe
Mouth to mouth
raining heaven's blows
Hand on heart
tic tac toe
Under the stars
naked as we flow
Cheek to cheek
the bitter sweet
Commit your crime in your deadly time

Commit your crime in your deadly time
It's too divine
I want to bend
I want this bliss but something says I must resist

Another life
another time
We're Siamese twins writhing intertwined
Face to face
no telling lies
The masks they slide to reveal a new disguise

You never can win
it's the state I'm in
This danger thrills and my conflict kills
They say follow your heart
follow it through
But how can you
when you're split in two?

And you'll never know
You'll never know

One more kiss
before we die
Face to face
and dream of flying
Who are you?
who am I?
Wind in wings
two angels falling
To die like this
with a last kiss
It's falsehood's flame
it's a crying shame
Face to face
the passions breathe
I hate to stay but then I hate to leave

And you'll never know
You'll never know . . .

Craig Interesting Actually Celts do Have Indo European Roots ...

Check this Celtic Persian Band Duo:

//www.straight.com/node/138259

 Also :

//www.utexas.edu/cola/centers/lrc/general/ie-lg/Celtic.html

This one is...

Not exactly folk music, but maybe appropriate!

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYkHpgohwb4

It glittered and it gleamed
for the arriving beauty queen
a ring and a car
now you're the prettiest by far
No party she'd not attend
no invitation she wouldn't send
transfixed by the inner sound
of your promise to be found

"Nothing or no-one will ever
make me let you down"

Kiss them for me -- I may be delayed
Kiss them for me -- if I am delayed

It's divoon, oh it's serene
in the fountains pink champagne
someone carving their devotion
in the heart shaped pool of fame

"Nothing or no-one will ever
make me let you down"

Kiss them for me -- I may be delayed
Kiss them for me -- I may find myself delayed

On the road to New Orleans
a spray of stars hit the screen
as the 10th impact shimmered
the forbidden candles beamed

Kiss them for me -- I may be delayed
Kiss them for me -- I may find myself delayed

Kiss them for me -- Kiss them for me

Kiss them for me -- I may find myself delayed

Celts

Gotta love the Celts! Especially Celtic folk music! It's one size fits all, really!

These are maybe vaguely Zoroastrian:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC5aUDN6OoU

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugVlI_CEpWg

And this one I have to include because I made a big comment about Boudica in another thread last week:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQwgpaLR6o

"Too white for my taste!" said Hazrate shotor

"Hajagha, what do you know about music or digital video editing or... you're a shotor!"

"You've got a point there". said he.

Darius Kadivar you are correct

This video has absolutely nothing to do with Zoroastrianism.

Celtic World, the music group that made this video seems to be Irish or from Ireland.

Everyone is getting on this imaginary bandwagon to say they feel our pain.

This is just plain bogus.

It becomes really offensive when you see a "Mr. Peanut" in the video.  What does Mr. Peanut have to do with the Iranian protesters?  Are they trying to say that the protesters are nuts?!

Any real Iranian would be offended by this video.

Thanks Maya jan

I would like to hear a Zartoshti song and I know there are many beautiful songs from Zoroasterians that could be used for this video clip. I love Zoroasterianism because it is the true Iranian religion.

DK

I was thinking it was such a nice song until I read your comment! But on reflection, I think I kinda agree with you. Still, it's a nice thought and a pleasant video.

Here is a video from a long time ago by Parsi(Zoroastrian) guy named Farrokh Bulsara:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=irp8CNj9qBI

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality
Open your eyes
Look up to the skies and see
I'm just a poor boy (Poor boy)
I need no sympathy
Because I'm easy come, easy go
Little high, little low
Any way the wind blows
Doesn't really matter to me, to me

Mama just killed a man
Put a gun against his head
Pulled my trigger, now he's dead
Mama, life has just begun
But now I've gone and thrown it all away
Mama, ooh
Didn't mean to make you cry
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow
Carry on, carry on as if nothing really matters

Too late, my time has come
Sends shivers down my spine
Body's aching all the time
Goodbye, everybody
I've got to go
Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth
Mama, oooooooh (Anyway the wind blows)
I don't want to die yet
Sometimes wish I'd never been born at all

I see a little silhouetto of a man
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango
Thunderbolt and lightning, very, very frightening me
(Galileo) Galileo (Galileo) Galileo, Galileo Galileo Figaro
Magnifico-o-o-o
I'm just a poor boy nobody loves me
He's just a poor boy from a poor family
Sparing his life from this monstrosity
This awful travisty
Easy come, easy go, will you let me go?
Bismillah! No, we will not let you go
Let him go
Bismillah! No We will not let you go
Let him go
Bismillah! We will not let you go
Let me go (Will not let you go)
Let me go (Will not let you go (Never, never, never, never))
Let me go, o, o, o, o
No, no, no, no, no, no, no
(Oh mama mia, mama mia) Mama Mia, let me go
Beelzebub has the devil put aside for me, for me, for me

So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye
So you think you can love me and leave me to die
Oh, baby, can't do this to me, baby
Just gotta get out, just gotta get right outta here

Nothing really matters, anyone can see
Nothing really matters
Nothing really matters to me

Any way the wind blows

Nice But I Really don't see What is Zartoshti in this Clip ? ...

No Offense intended in my comment but I find that all this "World Music" fashion tends to dissolve genuine national identities into a kind of repackaged "consuming" product.

Even if I totally approve your message and good intentions, I would have prefered a more genuine tribute that would show how your Zoroastrian identity and/or beliefs tie you to your Persian Roots.

I personally don't believe in the notion that one should suppress cultural differences on grounds of some kind of universal love or human bondage. Acknowledging what makes people different culturally, linguistically or even racially is not an act of intolerance On the contrary. I say this all the more comfortably that I am myself a product of East and West since my late father was Iranian from Shiraz and my mother is French and I myself was born in the US.

But the music in this clip however beautiful and the original video ( reminds me of the scenes in Ridley Scott's Blade Runner by the way ... ) that displays images of the riots and this Irish or Welsh singer ( sorry for my ignorance) looks a little Cliché and not really genuine.

Forgive me for sharing my opinion bluntly but its just a matter of personal taste and not an aim to downplay your sincere message of support to your fellow compatriots back home.

Best Wishes,

DK