Misc

ZZ, take it easy

1. I don't think you are Iranian although you know a few words here and there or learning Farsi. For example you say Allah-Akbar or dirty Namaz or ...or Javid Iran.

2. I believe you are Jewish and you go by the name of Mehdi Mazloom.

3. Go Iran!

smhb

What happened Agha? cat got your tongue? I hope you reading all this.... may be you are busy saying Allah-Akbar and doing your dirty Namaz....I still have nightmares about those war days ..."partying in discos and wishing Saddam to win" .... IT MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL...you are lucky I don't know who you are....

JAVID IRAN and PERSIANS.....

smhb

You know what makes me disgusted?

It’s when Akhounds sent 13-14 years old children of Iran on minefields with a plastic key on their chest. My brother was an IIAF pilot; he returned from the US to serve his country and lost his life in this war while Rafsanjani and other mullahs sent their sons all around the world far from Iran. And you, you’re not sending messages from heaven with 72 virgins around you, han? So where were you between 1980-1988?

You know what makes me disgusted?

It’s the mass executions of our intellectuals, generals, people with just different political views, not by tens, or hundreds or thousands but by ten thousands. Why? Aren’t mullahs the representatives of God in the earth? So, how can they take what God gives? How can one justify that Mullahs have such a high records of (official) executions in the world?

You talk about stealing and corruption. What the family of the Shah took is nothing against what Mullahs take everyday. What’s disgusting is to know for example that Messbah Yazdi put his finger on a precious stone mine as if it belonged to his father. What’s disgusting is that when someone in the regime denounced these corruptions he gets long term prison. You know Abbas Palidzar?



You know what makes me disgusted above all that?

It’s cowards like you, who have just a big mouth and nothing inside.

Mullahs

I was there when Khoramshar got freed from those savage Arabs. I lost almost everyone in my platoon.
It has been 30 years and look at Iran now. All the money goes to those freaking terrorist groups, and poor Persian people suffer. If it wasn't because of Shah's modernization, Iran would not have this copycat technology -which is a joke. All those students he sent to the best schools all over the world, all those roads, schools, factories, railroad that he built...and he was "small time thief..."

You compare Shah with these dirty Mullahs...The only thing Mullahs have done for people like you is thought you how many times to wipe your ass after using the bathroom. And it is Hallal to marry a 9 year old. Say a stupid Ayeh from a stupid book to legalize prostitution.

How come Iran still is a broke country? And you talk about discos here and partying...Do you know a big percentage of our youth is on HEAVY DRUGS? -not here over there - ...opium, heroin, speed....

Have you ever read the Quran? In a freaking language that you understand? The whole thing is about killing, stoning, cursed Jews, and how to marry 9 year-olds like they are piece of property...

Where were you during the war? You Sir Disgust me with your narrow views......Hopefully when you get your 80 virgins your mind get free.

You are very kind

You are very kind Hajminator, thank you. Your English is fine, I was slow to understand what you meant, sorry...

smhb- before you get too disgusted and call us morons, ask yourself this- if the little thief was not in power and your first choice at the time (whoever that may be) was, how dependent would we be on foreigners, and how strong of a defence would we have had, and how much better would we have been prepared to withstand an Iraqi invasion. If you honestly research the answer to this question, you may be in for a surprise.

Also, equally disgusting is your willingness to label "us" educated people as dancing and getting drunk in western nightclubs hoping for Saddam's victory when you have no clue whatsoever where I or any of "us" were when Saddam was invading us.

FACT is, that on Septmeber 22 1980, Saddam Hussein invaded Iran, and the Iranian armed forces were all but dismantled by the mullahs regime. When the mullahs gave permission to what was left of the military that was built during the Shah's time to do what it could, together with the people of Iran, they stood and slapped Saddam in the face in a way that no one will forget soon, and proved all those who calculated that Iran cannot operate its military without the US help wrong. If the US equipped military were not functional and could not fly 150 sorties a day deep into Iraq (a fraction of what it would have if the mullahs had not dismantled it), this would not have been possible, and that is why Khuzestan is still part of Iran today, whether you like it or not. Go figure.

Now who should be disgusted?

-FAIR

Easy smhb

Easy smhb, I don't have any figures for you, but do you really think thieves existed only in the time of Shah?
I definitely give a lot of credit to those who have not allowed Iran to be turned into another Afghanistan or Iraq, but I have no illusion about corruption in Iran. ... I have personally talked to some of those who are squandering Iran's wealth at the cost of more misery for Iranian poor and middle class (mostazafeen).

Well said Fair

Fair, I am with you on many of your statements this time, specially the ones in your last comment....

smhb

That small time thief the little shah. He accomplished so much for Iran and Iranians in his misrable life as a small time thief. He, his family members and cohorts stole close to $60B and fled the country like the dogs they are.

Some of you can come here on this site and brag about that thief all you want and probably feel good about it too, but the fact of the matter is that we were dependent on foreigners for everything.

As if you delusional morons have forgotten that during the Iraqi war of aggression Iran was short on weapons of all kinds. So if some of you fools actually are smoking something and think we were producing all sorta of goodies during that theives time then why with a boycott on weapons and other goods Iran was put in such a difficult position?

Oooops, I get it, educated people like you were not there to help build these things but were rather busy in discos and night clubs all over the west dancing and getting drunk and hoping for saddams victory so you could go back and do what you do best; sell the country to the foreigners. Just ask some of your friends who collaborated with saddam and were salivating for his victory. 

People like you disgust me.  

Fair Guerami,

بله، ما هم سنگریم. حرف من در اول همین بود که شما به این خوبی توجیح کردین. من انگ‫لیسیم شکسته−پیکسته است و به خوبی شما آلان، نتوانستم این ایده را همان اول بیان کنم. معذورم و از شما متشکر.

‫ارادتمند

If I may add to Hajminator's thoughts...

...Indeed history will be judge, and our country will move on.

Perhaps one of the big evidence of our country moving on is the fact that there were enough people willing to sacrifice and sweat despite all the odds under this very regime under all this embargo, and not let the helicopter industry shown in this film die. The mullahs propaganda and safsateh as Hajminator put it so well will come and go as all the others did. But what will always remain is the effort and dedication of those who cared and worked silently for Iran, whether it was then or now. This has been true throughout our thousands of years of history and is still true today.

I think I understand now what Hajminator said once- that we are awake now. We have learned our lesson and are moving beyond this person or that figure or who to follow and who not to follow. We just do our job and our duty for our country. So Yes, now as a nation, we are ready. I see this in our young people and am hopeful.

-FAIR

MRX1

History will be judge. Believe me.

This regime is also good on safsateh, cheating, .. and playing chess. But, their adventure will stop one day. Just look where they brought the country. In 5 years, Iran owned more than 240 billion dollars from our oil and Mahmoud dispatched the money all around, giving it to the Hezbollah, massjed, ... Now, the country's asset is empty and it's on the edge to be attacked. On the international level, iranians pay the heavy tribute as they are seen as less than nothing everywhere.

Can one think that this situation is normal and that it will be continued as it is?

This regime will go as all tyrants leaved the stage before.

After, if the world will be as it is and that Iranians use for example nuclear powers, they will know that it was the Shah who brought the technology into the country in 1959, don't you think so?

Hajminator

Actualy I was not refering to you or fair in my posting. I was just making a general observation that what ever the shah did was supposedly bad but if mullah's do the same thing it's really a good idea!!!! It's just a big hypicrociy that's all. One thing that shah of Iran failed and mullah's are really good at is propaganda. before you know it they will want credit for space shuttle as well!.

MRX1

Didn't get it... You're labeling me and Fair as Ommatis?

As you say:

• The Shah was a poor bastard
• Me and Fair are Ommatis
• ...

 

It's true that, criticizing everything domestic and praising everything made by cheshm abia is an Iranian second nature.

The Shah was a fanatic patriot. He continued the modernization of the country that his father begun. Pahlavis were not poor bastards but two generations of father&son who did a lot for the country. I thank them for what they did, though I think that Mohamad-Reza Shah did also huge mistakes after 1953.

Iranians are now under an embargo, and mullahs ultimate willing is to establish a Taleban like regime. SO, every thing positive which is done by patriots living in the country HAS to be praised now more than ever.

These achievements are, once again, not thanks to Akhounds but thanks to people loving and living in the country.

Thanks to the Shah

It is the Shah that had the vision to establish all of this. We would have been much further ahead if he was allowed to continue.

Love Omati standard

This industry is yet another contribution of previous regime uder the guidance of shah. What is interesting is when that poor bastered built the army, bought the weapornery, brought industries to Iran including this and the nuclear industry he was critisized heavily right and left about how he is wasting Iran resources. But now if mullah's do the same thing and spend zillions of dollars on the some kind of things or even junkier and out dated products  all of a sudden it's a good idea@!!!    

Thanks to the previous regime

Thanks to the previous regime which started the "sanaaye'e helicopter saazi" with the assitance of Americans, and established the foundation for this industry, today the regime feeds it propaganda machine yet again while still benefiting from the efforts of the previous regime.

As Fair said, today we could have had much more. A whole lot more advanced than this petty show offs.

The regime always tries to lock us into our least potentials while crushing our true potentials.

I raise my hat to the brave and intelligent Iranians that didn't allow the helicopter industry layed down by the previous regime die off. They have done a good job despite the backwarded regime.

Fair jan,

I want to join my voice to yours and take my hat off to our guys who work for our country, Iran and the future of our children.

It’s indeed their love to the motherland which motivates their achievements and not the willing of mullahs, in this period of time.

These success are giant steps for the modernization of the country and I believe that a society which knows what it wants and what it’s able to do, will never accept to be guided by fanatics, monarchs, mullahs or to be under foreign powers (Mickey mouse).

Dametoon garm, khabar koobi bood too in manjelab fe'lli.

Bareekala

These people do the best they can with what they have, and that is a lot. Not many countries have this broad a helicopter overhaul and repair capability.

But I will not tolerate propaganda such as "before the revolution this was run totally by Americans" and now we are totally independent. Of course the Americans had to run it first and teach us, and obviously they did a good job of teaching and we did a good job of learning, so that we can do this today. (all the technology you see in this film is at least 20-30 years old, which is fine. But in 1975, there was no other way to get this technology than to be buddies with the USA).  You have to start somewhere, and we started in a good place and succeeded.  Had it not been for the mullahs, we would be building and exporting modern helicopters today, not the Bell Hueys you see being repaired here (which were already being repaired the same way by 1979)

I am sorry, but the expertise that exists in our country today in this regard did not come from Imam Zaman. It came from transferring technology from American specialists to Iranian specialists who were good students, and over 2-3 generations loved to progress in this area and learned well and were motivated. They did not work for mullahs or Shah or Mickey Mouse or anybody, they worked (and continue to work) for Iran.

Thank you bacheha,

FAIR