My favorite sport

Interview with Reza Pahlavi


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My favorite sport
by Arvand
17-Sep-2007
 

…The mind is like a parachute - it works only when it is open…

Don’t ask me why I decided to interview Reza Pahlavi and talk about Iranian football, but I am glad that I did. I always had a fascination to get deep inside of that nostalgic road and question Prince Reza Pahlavi about Iranian football and his recollections of pre-revolutionary Iran.

Truthfully, I also wanted to know what it was like to be the prince of Persia and have unlimited access to A to Z of Iranian football.

So, I finally decided to email his secretariat and send a request. But that was the easy part. The difficult part was my inner instinct preventing me from going through with this. You see, I never told you this but I am against Monarchy all together!
However, my inquisitiveness and curiosity got the best of me and went through it.

I found Mr. Reza Pahlavi to be a passionate, educated and very well informed individual.

And to be very frank with you, even though I may “never” change my mind about monarchy, but as a fellow Iranian and a nationalist, I was genuinely honored to be speaking with such personality!

At least we found one common ground on all this and that is unconditional love for our country.

So, without any further delay I present you with this exclusive interview with the Prince of Persia! (Note: Originally this interview was conducted for another site; however, due to its "sensitive nature" no one wanted to touch it! Finally the interview found a home in iranian.com!)

Arvand,
Ba Salam. Mr. Pahlavi, please talk about your early school days, football, Heshmat Mohajerani, your favorite club (local or foreign), and whatever that comes to mind related to your passion to Iran, Iranian football, and the fans.

Reza Pahlavi,
I have to say that football (or soccer, as it is called here) was definitely my favorite team sports. I played the game, along with my classmates, during most of our school years. I would not be exaggerating if I said that we played over 250 days a year! I have many good memories of playing; not only with my classmates, but also joining an impromptu game with people I would meet during my travels around the country. For instance, playing with locals on Kish Island, our in an Air Force base in Ahvaz, or some village kids in Kalardasht.

The best memories are from the practice sessions we used to have in Sa’ad Abbad with members of the Iranian National Team! This was at the time Heshmat Mohajerani was also coaching my school team. He would bring along players from the national team to play with us. What a treat! How many Iranian teenaged boys would dream of playing with a Hassan Rowshan, Ali Parvin or Nasser Hejazi! I knew how blessed I was to have the opportunity not only to meet our football stars in person, but to actually play with them!

I would often go to various stadiums and watch football games; be it a classic league rivalry game like Taj – Persepolis, or a national team game in friendly or international matches. I would also be present during final matches, be it the youth tournaments, or international events such as the 1974 Asian Olympic Games when Iran faced Israel in the final game.

Arvand,
Your best memory related to the national team. Please explain!

Reza Pahlavi,
This would have to be the game in Aryamehr Stadium in 1977, when Iran faced Kuwait in the preliminary games for World Cup ’78 in Argentina. Wow! 125.000 people in a 100,000-seat stadium!!! The atmosphere was explosive. “Mamad Boughi” outdid himself that day. I could still hear the exhilarating voice of Habibollah Rowshanzadeh shouting: “ Iran yek – Koweit Sefr, Iran yek – Koweit sefr…” when Ghafour Jahani scored. We were one step closer for qualifying for the World Cup for the first time ever.

Later on, when we won against Australia and secured our trip to Buenos Aires, I was elated. I remember an emotional meeting with our squad in Niavaran when I greeted our players and send them off along with our best wishes for success. I also remember that we had to watch the World Cup games, late at night, right in the middle of our final exams, the summer of my high school graduation!

Arvand,
Did you watch the games of 1998 World Cup in France and 2006 World Cup in Germany, and if you did, could you please intricate and compare the two World Cups and Iran’s performance in them? I like to have your detailed emotions and reactions to both events please!

Reza Pahlavi,
Yes, I did. Clearly, we had two different teams in 98 and 06; not in the sense of having many different players, but more in the sense of team chemistry. The 98 team was young, and new stars in the team (some with gained experience from playing in foreign league teams) such as Ali Daei and others where mentally prepared to face their adversaries. Playing in a German league team helps one not to be intimidated when facing the overpowering German National Team, for instance. Anyhow, I sensed much more chemistry in that team. Despite the fact that the team “handlers” had forced our players to stay up late for “prayers” on the eve of the first match against Yugoslavia (if memory servers me right), our boys did pretty well. One successful free kick and the misread of our back-up goalkeeper might have been the difference in qualifying for the next round.

As to the game vs. the U.S. National team, I thought our team maintained its composure throughout the game. I was definitely one of the best games ever played by any Iranian National Soccer Team.

2006, however, was very different. Some of our star players were 8 years older. The chemistry was almost non-existent. They had been rumors of internal dissensions. Not to mention the fact that the overall state of affairs back home had no doubt a lot to do with the moral and spirit of our players. As I watched the first half of our first game against Mexico, I thought we held up their offense pretty successfully, almost to the extent of frustrating them. However, the second half was a disaster. It is as if another team had showed up, or I should say didn’t show up. You could have instructed the players to “throw” the game, and they could not have done any better! I knew right then that there would be no chance for success….

Arvand,
What is your overall opinion on how our national team is being handled right now?
If you were in charge, what would you do to improve the conditions (if any)?

Reza Pahlavi,
It would be impossible to address this question without bringing the country’s political situation into it. I spare you what many Iranians already know. Let me just say that the question is not isolated to the national team, and the staff handling it.

You cannot have many flourishing artist in a country where uninhibited artistic expression is muzzled and severely repressed. The same goes for sports. If the proper infrastructure is not put in place – such as athletic facilities in school and public areas – if economic restrictions makes it very difficult for people to afford the kind of nutrition that any athlete would require to be physically in shape, you cannot expect to have a high quality performance or results. Many countries spend millions of dollars supporting or sponsoring their athletic programs. The clerical regime prefers to spend it on other things… You could have a Franz Beckenbauer managing the Iranian National Team: with limited resource, even he could not work any wonders…

Arvand,
In your opinion, what is the most single important factor in improving the overall state of affairs in Iranian sports in general?

Reza Pahlavi,
Money! Obviously, you should have a combination of:

1) A well organized Ministry of Sports (allocating the necessary budget to various programs and watch for a fair distribution of such funds across the country.

2) Various Federations overseeing their respective sports

3) Private clubs, again in various sports that bring in additional assets via private resources and;

4) Various non-profit or charitable organizations that can subsidize various sport related programs as well as infrastructure, particularly in rural areas and financially restrained communities.

I have left many other things out, but in my view, these are the obvious priorities. I would like to add, however, that no sport program could be successful without the educational and health institutions collaborating. The youth constitute the bulk of one country’s sportsmen or athletes. Our young compatriots would thus have opportunities and a better choice to live healthy and constructive lives. They should dream of success; many of them even of Olympic medals, not wonder about how to get their next fix of heroin in some dark alley…

Arvand,
Please name few of your favorite players who performed for our national team before and after the revolution. I like to know why you have chosen these players to be your favorite.

Reza Pahlavi,
Admittedly, I know more about the players during my youth in Iran than many of our current players. In terms of personal skills, energy level and overall attitude and composure, I remember some of the names that shined the most back in the late sixties and seventies, at least for me: Parvin, Rowshan, Nazari, Hedjazi, Ghelichkhani, Ghassempour, Rashidi, Danaifard, and many more are in my thoughts.

As for the more recent teams, I liked players like Daei, Mahdavikia, Karimi and Hashemian, amongst others.

Arvand,
What is your biggest disappointment associated to Iranian football?

Reza Pahlavi,
Under the circumstances, it would be unfair to place the blame on our athletes. I know they are trying to do their best they can despite all adversities.

Arvand,
Many believe that Iranian national team of 1998 reunited Iranians all over the world and brought them closer to one another. Do you acknowledge this declaration, and if you do, please talk about the encouraging impact of it.

Reza Pahlavi,
I do. It is amazing how sport is the greatest unifier of people, regardless of where they are on our planet. In the case of our soccer team in World Cup 1998, we had two common as well as two different reactions between Iranians abroad and at home: Iranians abroad celebrated the team, showing solidarity with the people, and not the political establishment. It was so obvious the way TV cameras carefully avoided showing Iranian fans in the stadium on the International live feed, in order not to upset the clerical regime!

As for the people inside Iran, what an opportunity to celebrate while at the same time sending a message to the same establishment: the most graphic image was that of Iranian girls and women taking of their chadors and veil while dancing on top of cars and in the streets, in complete defiance as well as in joy – I am sorry to say one of the few things they get to “genuinely” celebrate these days…

Arvand,
Could our country gain International respect through sports? If your answer is yes, please explain how we can achieve it?

Reza Pahlavi,
Absolutely. We have done it before. At the very least, Iranian athletes were celebrated in various Olympiads in the past, and even in present day. The rest of the answer would be what I explained in my answer to Q 5. World observers could only be more impressed if, as a country, we were able to address our health, education and sport issues beyond just farming athletes.

Arvand,
If there were a possibility of meeting Ali Daei face to face some day, what would you tell him?

Reza Pahlavi,
The same thing I would tell any prominent Iranian athlete: Remember that you do not only represent yourself, but your country. You are by definition a role model. Let the youth be inspired by your example. You should hold yourself at a much higher standard at anytime, on or off the field.

You could be a Joe Montana or a Michael Vick; the choice is yours…

Arvand,
Please talk about Iranian football, women, and all the restrictions surrounding the two in our beloved land! I like to know about the pros and cons of it.

Reza Pahlavi,
I think I already have shared many thoughts on this subject. But on this specific issue, especially about women, how could there be any pros? I hope to see the day, I hope in a much nearer future, where the Iranian Women National Soccer Team would be representing our country in world sports events. This goes for all other sports. Let’s face it, and at the risk of politicizing my answer once more, only a secular future could give our country the guaranties of equality and liberty for or women, whether in sports, arts, politics, and society as a whole. So long as they are treated as second-class citizens and have to endure an archaic theocracy, there will be neither hope nor choice; only forced “Hejab” and stoning…

Arvand,
I have a hypothetical query for you. You have indicated several times in the past that you are always ready to serve your country. Suppose, the conditions were right for you to go back to Iran tomorrow, and you had a job offer to lead Iranian football, would you accept to become the head of Iranian Football Federation or not? Please tell me why or why not?

Reza Pahlavi,
As you have indicated, I have always told my fellow compatriots that I stand ready to serve them in whatever capacity that they see fit. Having said that, the question in front of me today is not a hypothetical, but a real one: how to liberate Iran from the yoke of this archaic clerical dictatorship?

God willing, when we shall succeed, I will have to evaluate the exact situation at that time. Only then will I be able to ascertain in what way I could be most productive. If it happens to be what you have addressed in your question, so be it!

Arvand,
What is your non-political message to Iranian football fans?

Reza Pahlavi
,
Your celebration of and support for our athletes is their only bastion of moral support and faith in themselves. Solidarity goes a very, very long way!

Arvand,
Mr. Pahlavi, I thank you so much for accepting my request for his interview and I also wish the best for Iran and Iranians all over the world. I was honored sir!


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Jamshid: It is obvious that

by Anonymous343434 (not verified) on

Jamshid: It is obvious that I don't have access to anyone's bank account. Common sense from what I have seen is what drives my view point. So ok I;ll give you thihs much the pahlavis didn't steal a cent and didn't use iran to advance their personal wealth.not one little bit even. boos boos boos smack in the middle

Kaveh Nourani: yes i am a woman. I am hot and I am married and I have kids and a great life. The revolution was good for people like me. AGAIN you moron the story is political because of the person being interviewed.


jamshid

RE: anonymous34343434....

by jamshid on

-Ali Baghi does not have my answer. Read my post.

 

-Remember that when you accuse someone of being a kiss-ass, simply because he has a different view than yours, then you have kissed your reputation goodbye. This statement excludes pro-IRI people, as we are entitled to calling them anything that pleases us.

 

-As far as your statement "some ahmaghs still think Pahlavi is relevant and not a theif" I could easily reverse it and say "some ahmagh still thinks pahalvi is not relevant and that he is a thief". But that won't help. I said in my previous post, and you should read it again, you must first prove that Pahalvi was thief, you can't simply accuse. AND I GET PISSED OFF AT THESE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS, BECAUSE I WAS FOOLED BY IT ONCE IN 1978, AND IT CAUSED NOT JUST ME BUT MANY OTHERS TO JOIN THE REVOLUTION AND FOOLISHLY DESTROY IRAN, ALL BECAUSE WE BELIEVED PEOPLE LIKE YOU. But when we ask those people "why you lied to us?" Their shameless reply is "why did you believe us?"

 

Your type did more disservice to Iran than the Shah could possibly ever do. In 1978, you, and if not you, your likes, screwed Iran by changing the regime, then after you smelt the stench that you have caused, half of you packed up and left for a "better" place outside of Iran, sending those remaining in Iran to hell.

 

So... vaseye ma baraye Iran enghadr sineh chak nakon.


jamshid

Re: Ali Baghi... No proof yet...

by jamshid on

Yes, I did say one piece of Reza's hair is more of a scholar, patriot, intellectual, etc than any of the ruling mullahs. BUT that does not mean he is better than everyone else. I just said he is better than the mullahs. And I stand by this statement.

 

Now is this an indication of being a kiss-ass? Maybe in your brainwashed and Pahlavi blind-hating mind, but not in a clear and neutral mind. You hate Pahlavi to the border line of oghdeh and therefore, in your mind, saying the slightest positive statement about Pahalvis is automatically being a kiss-ass. Not so in the real world.

 

As far as your second question, i.e., how do I know that the other responder is less of a politician than Reza, you can find the answer in what he wrote. Whoever is capable of writing such none-sense is politically disadvantaged.

 

I am yet to read a sound proof that I am a kiss-ass. So far you have only proven that you are an offending and accusing labeler.

 

I hope that answers your hateful and angry "huh?" and "hah?"


Kaveh Nouraee

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by Kaveh Nouraee on

You are a khanoum? With that mouth?

 

The story was about football/soccer and not about pre 1979 and post 1979.

 

With that attitude,  you come across as one of those miserable women who can't hold on to a man. What a shame, too. Class means shit to you as you say because you mean shit to yourself, and therefore, are shit to others. That's truly sad.


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Jamshid: Ali Baghi has your

by Anonymous3434343434 (not verified) on

Jamshid: Ali Baghi has your answer read his post. Remember, when you are kissing ass, not the left cheek not the right cheek...SMACK IN THE MIDDLE.

Andre: I am a khanum not an agha. Class? That is an outdated concept used by middle/working class people all over the world and means shit to me. If you are referring to my attitude, yes, I am pissed off and i show it. With all that is going on in Iran, some ahmaghs still think Pahlavi is relevant and not a theif. I rest my case. If you can't see it, I have no energy to open your eyes, besides you are entitled to your misinformed opinions.

Oghdeis suck: I have a job. My nane isn't jende. You asked why this article becomes political. This shows your OLAGHNESS because the guy's dad was the dictator of a country in ruins. That's why it's political. Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, your ignorance must be your bliss.

Javid Shah: Your exit point is blocked by Oghedi's suck's nose. Take it up with him. Anyone who still says Javid Shah is the puss of the earth.

My anger toward the dictatorship of this MF is not an indication of my support of IRI. In fact, I blame the ghajar's and pahlavis for the current situation in iran. Sure, international meddling bla bla was responsible. But again, these idiots were MASALAN ruling the country. All you Shah ass kissers are in the dark ages.


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Jamshid: Here's the proof

by Ali Baghi (not verified) on

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One piece of Reza Pahlavi's hair is more of a leader, more of a scholar, more of a human, more of a patriot, more of a politician, more of an intellectual than any of the "do zaari" mullahs ruling in Iran, or "nim sanaar" mullahs like your imbecile self.
Jamshid
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That seems like clear indication of "kiss ass" to me.

By the way, mr loudmouth: Where is your proof for that statement about "any" mullh and the person who you were responding to? How do you know he's less of a politician? Where's the proof? huh? hah?


jamshid

To: anonymous342232342423

by jamshid on

Where is your proof that I am a pro-monarchist and an ass-kisser at that? Defending the shah against the lies that are made about him, neither makes me a monarchist, nor an ass kisser.

 

Again, where is your proof? Don't change the subject if you want to reply. I am not interested in your reply unless you are specifically answering my question: Where is your proof that I am an ass-kisser monarchist?


jamshid

To: Foad

by jamshid on

Foad,

If Reza didn't have the interest of Iran in heart, he would just leave politics all together and enjoy his life.

 

Where is your proof that these guys are thieves? Where is your proof that he is prostituting himself to anyone who may help him come back to power? Show it or shut up. Getting help is not the same than prostituting. Marhoom Bakhtiar got a lot of money from Saddam, he even admitted it, but he was no prostitute.

 

If he comes to power, "their bottomless pockets may get filled with Iran wealth and treasures" as you said, but so will the pockets of the Iranian people. I don't mind someone's pocket, be it Reza's, yours or anyone else's, get filled "with Iranian treasures", as long as the Iranians pockets are getting filled too.

 

You claim the Pahlavis are thieves. I disagree. I know that the shah lived more than well when he was king. He even lived in a palace. So does president Bush. Excluding baseless rumors, show me evidence that the Shah stole from people. Had he taken the crown jewels with him then I would be the first to call him a thief. Had his son possessed billions of dollar, then I would be the first to call them thieves. But just because the Royal family has enough to live a comfortable life that does not make them or the Shah a thief.

 

Your baseless accusations are too old and way too tired, and have no buyers anymore. Foad, we are not in 1978 anymore, This is 2007. You are still trying to circulate the same rumor-based crap that was fed to the people in order to deceive them and turn them against the Shah. That worked in 1978, but it does not work anymore.

 

What ticks me off more than anything else, is that it were these same type of lies that deceived the population and helped brought the mullahs to power. If these type of lies were not spread during the revolution, half of the population wouldn't bother come to the streets. How dare you use the same crap now after 30 years? Or perhaps you are still under their influence after so many years.

 

Either way, your lies and spread of baseless rumors worked once, but not anymore.


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Aghaye Ananymous34234234...

by Andre (not verified) on

You are a no body!!
Why should anyone interview a person who absolutely has no manners or class in this case?
Send an email to Hustler magazine, then "MAYBE" and only maybe they would publish an interview by you under "garbage" section!
You can go and hide in a corner now:)


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Javid Shah

by Javid Shah (not verified) on

All the anti-Shah two-legged animals can lick my exit point.


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Anony...3024...

by Oghdei'z SUCK (not verified) on

Olagh oon nanayeh jendateh! Get a job and maybe, just maybe, you will not be as OGHDEI! LOSER.


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Oghdeis suck: olagh: it

by Anonymous34234234 (not verified) on

Oghdeis suck:
olagh: it turns political because they guy's dad was the shah!!!!!!

oghdeis such as myself are mad and have oghde for freedom and democracy in iran and we are sick of mullahs and blame a lot on the good for nothing dozd shah.

Authour: are you telling me there was no one better to interview for soccer? or was there nothing more substantial to talk about with his royal highness? Sure pahlavi and soccer is great eye candy. But you get an interview with the guy and he makes all these comments and you pussy have nothing more to say to him??????????


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- If Mr. Pahlavi's

by Anonymous342342342342 (not verified) on

- If Mr. Pahlavi's background isn't important for this article, come an interview me! I am just as fascinating, and I am hot and I have boobs. Don't kid yourself anyone, his royal highness was interviewed because he is the prince of persia.
- My next point: if he is being interviewed because of his background, let's examine this back ground.
- Have we forgotten that if shah was great for our country, we would still be living there and there would be no IRI??? Did you see how Saddam stood behind and died for his beliefs, what the f did this guy's family do.
- they plUUUUUUUUUUUUUNDERED our wealth just like mullahs are doing.
- come interview me about soccer.
- jamshid, khak tu saret man ta hal hamash supportet mikardam you good for nothing monarchist ass kisser. get together with haji agha and give eveyrone a break. javid shah, mamlekato gaeed shah


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Amen!

by Farshad R (not verified) on

Well said. It seems like we were reading a different article all together. Foad truly turned this forum around by his off the wall comments. Mr. "know it all" just destroyed a good read. Get a life buddy!


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To all the haters...

by Oghdehi'z SUCK (not verified) on

Why turn an interview regarding soccer into a Viagra-induced hard on against the Pahlavi's? Get a life you LOSERS!


Foad

Thank You....

by Foad on

I appreciate your responses (good or bad, I had my say and you had yours) to my comment to this appalling interview with someone who has no interest of Iran at heart and willing to prostitute himself to anyone/organization promising to bring him back to power so he and his cabal friends can fill up their bottomless pockets with Iran wealth and treasures. It is true that now there are another group doing this but why we should strive to replace one group of thieves with another (Mais, Oui...Oui...)? Why we should advocate openly or secretly as this specimen has done to destroy Iran? Current administration has reportedly its Blitz plan ready and willing to use it at any moments. My hope is that one day we can have an Iran free of outside interferences with true democratic government by the people and for the people. A government that treat everyone regardless of sex, religion and national origin (referring to burgeoning population of Afghans who currently are living in Iran and No I am not Afghan). Foad


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AASH

by aash (not verified) on

Ye gheroon bedeh aash, be hamin khial bash! try to deal with this goverment and make it better, don't start a revolution or a war, thats the last thing these poor people need...


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Javid Shah

by Aryamehr (not verified) on

Thank you Arvand for the interview - Long live HIM Reza Shah II!


jamshid

anonym8:

by jamshid on

Anonymous8, I am pasting this from YOUR comments:

Anonymous8: "You did and do continue to argue that being "self-made" is irrelevant to one's success, that's another way of saying it's meaningless..." 

 

I am pasting this from my previous comments:

Jamshid: Mohamad, Eskandar, Mossadegh, ... lived on their parents wealth before they became somebody. In contrast, there were many self-made people who never amounted to anything. There are people who lived on their wealthy parents who amounted to nothing too. And there are self-made people that became sombody important, etc...  it is not what life gives you that counts, it is what you do with it that matters

 

Any person with even a single digit IQ reading the above would understand that what I am saying is that:

1. You can live on your parents wealth or you can be self-made and in both case you could end up not becoming someone important.

2. Conversely, you could live on your parents wealth or be self-made and in both case become someone important.

3. Therefore, significant contributors to the regional history are not necessarily ONLY those who lived on their parents wealth, nor necessarily ONLY those who were safe-made either.

4. These are the only things you can imply from my comments. You cannot imply that I meant being self-made is meaningless. You could only imply that I meant being self-made does not automatically make you a significant contributors to world affairs. Period.

 

More comments from you: ''typical of the Monarchists..." I have defended the Shah in the past but HOW DO YOU KNOW IF I AM A MONARCHIST? Does defending Islam automatically makes you a pro-IRI?

 

You also say "You are so ideologically invested in the Pahlavis that you are incapable of judging this situation on its merrits." I have personally attacked Reza's ways of handling his political carrier in my previous writings NUMEROUS times. Same with his father's mistakes during his rule. That alone disprove your statement about being ideologically invested in Pahlavis and not judging by merits. Which takes me to this question: WHO GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO PUT FALSEHOOD IN MY MOUTH AND OTHERS' EARS?

 

Then you say this: "Next you'd be telling that the BBC stole Reza's wealth and gave it to the Mullahs!" Since when can you read minds? HOW DO YOU KNOW I WILL BE SAYING THAT BBC STOLE REZA'S WEALTH? WHO GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO MAKE SUCH FALSE CALIMS?

 

Perhaps too much oghdeh has made you blind. Stop being "asabi". The Pahalvis are not the evils you have made them in your mind.


amirkabear4u

FOR GOD SACK

by amirkabear4u on

First thing first, who said this person is a monarch. His grand father, reza shah, was a stable boy. He was not a born monarch. Then his father, overthrown shah, was a dictator who did not see mullahs where coming but saw himself a great leader, shahe shahan. This so called prince, what a joke, is just left over of another dark age in our history. I will never ever vote to a useless show off like this one. If you see other nations have monarchs it is because they have true royal blood. This person is so useless he can not even argue with mullahs. He is taking his own supporters for a ride. Iran needs a leader not a sosol.


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Thank you all!

by Arvand (not verified) on

Thank you all for your input and “sometimes” encouraging words. My intentions were to put a sports article together and not to create a political debate. However, in this particular case it was unavoidable. On one hand it is a great to see freedom of speech at work and on the other some of the arguments took me back 27 years to Tehran in front of the University!!
It’s amazing how some of us have not changed our ways after almost 3 decades. We still love to attack and destroy whatever that stands between our ideologies and beliefs!
Few people asked why I chose Mr. Pahlavi to talk about football. My answer to those is because in my view he had interesting tales to share and he did.
Like it or not, he is part of Iranian history and I am happy that I did this.
Again, many thanks for your comments and Pirooz Iran!


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Great set of questions

by raha (not verified) on

Great set of questions Boston! I've been wondering the same for numerous years!
Let's stop the bashings, the name callings and the foul language.
Let's dig deeper and think facts.
Let's set emotions aside and work on solutions and format. --and yes let's answer Boston's questions!


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A hypothetical scenario and a few questions...

by Boston (not verified) on

Suppose the mullahs and their entire establishment were to collapse tomorrow and completely disappear from the face of the earth and an opportunity became available for the Iranians to chose their next form of Government and leader, then what and who would Iranians chose? What should be the right settings for this to happen? What process(es) would you suggest for the citizens of Iran to follow in order not to repeat the past mistakes so that they can make the optimum choices? Can Iranians be trusted to make the right decisions? Should international organizations and communities become involved to oversee the process? A food for thought!? Please formulate your arguments with reasons, logic, and proofs. Envision a situation where you are trying justify to your supervisor how great and productive an employee you are and why he shouldn't fire you!?

PS -- If the educated members of the Iranian.com community who happened to be of "know-it-all" kind can not come up with a reasonable and practical story that could lead us to a successful path, then why should we expect our counterparts in Iran to have a story?


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Very grown-up!

by H (not verified) on

Very grown-up! Very civilaized!! Well-done!!!
You monarchists always know how not to disappoint.


jamshid

anonymous8, were you offended?... akhaaay! naaazi....

by jamshid on

I am glad you are loving it. Here is something for you to love some more: I never said that being self-made is meaningless. I only said that those who became movers and shakers of the world were not necessarily all self-made. Go read it again.

 

How desparate YOU must be to make meaningless conclusions from my remarks.

 

Mohamad was only an average merchant before marriying Khadijeh, nothing more. Everything else you say about him, eg, "amin" and so forth is invented for him by his followers. Besides it's irrelevant. The point is that his life began to change and he began to become somebody only AFTER he could use Khadijeh's wealth.

 

Yes, Alexander was very young when he invaded Iran. But age was not the point of the discussion. The point was and still is that Alexander lived on his rich family and there was nothing wrong with that. Don't change the subject to age out of desperation.

 

Same with Mossadegh. Also, without the financial and political support of his influential family, he may have never been elected to the parlamant. The point again is that he lived on his parents wealth and that there is nothing wrong with that.

 

So what if Reza will be 47? His grand father was in his 40s too when he became well known. Besides age was not the point. Your comment was about looking down to Reza because he is living on his inheritance. That was the center of my reply.

 

I don't claim Reza could be a great leader for the opposition to IRI. What I am saying is that living on parents wealth is not something to look down to. It depends on the person. Neither of us has had the honor of knowing him personally and close.

 

I am self-made in everything I have done since I was 17. But I am not oghdei. When I see a rich Iranian, I don't automatically consider him a thief nor a bacheh soosool. It all depends on the person.

 

P.S. Using words such as "pathetic" or "embarassment" and so on will not make other readers say "WOW! What a great comment!". It does not make others think I am pathetic nor embarassing. It does not amplify your remarks. Although it has such effects only on the person who is using these words. 

 

P.S.#2: Reza lost most of his wealth due to having bad advisors. He recouped only after his marriage, and his father's wealth was not there to help him.


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Jamshid, really, listen to yourself... you are an embarrassment

by Anonymous8 (not verified) on

I love it. You're reduced to arguing that being "self made" is meaningless. Oh how desperate you must be!

Your knowledge of history is shockingly weak. Mohammad was first hired by Khadija after he was already a successful businessman and tradesman. His high reputation as "Amin" was sealed before he was even 25 years old. This dispite the fact that he grew up "yatim" without a father and that restricted his career options in the traditional tribal system of Arabia.

Alexander the great had already conquored Iran by the time he was in his early 20's. So yes, you're right, until he was an adult, he was supervised by his royal parents. But by 25 he had conquored the World.

And Mossadegh was elected to the Iranian Paliament at the age of 24.

So we have a successfull businessman who went on to become a Prophet, a true tactical genius who conquored the known world and a man who was elected in a democracy, all before the age of 25. Which one are you comparing to Jr. again?

Jr. will be 47 next month. When exactly is he going to get off the trust fund and do something with his life? How long does it take?!!!

How truly pathetic. (That's just you and your so-called arguments.)

Unfortunately, in light of your personal insults, I have to refer to my previous remarks about you. Just look down the page for the word "Nazi".


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He wasn't a Leader

by Namaki (not verified) on

Reza Shah was good. But the Shah himself was a poor leader. He was a nice person but was simply in a wrong business. He should have been doing something else for living. He wasn't an effective leader. Didn't have leadership qualities.

He was somewhat superstitious, and religious. So he was soft toward mullahs and ayatollahs.

He was delusional. He was obsessed with the glory of the old Perisan Empire. And didn't understand the reality of modern Iran. He was out of tune!

On the other hand, he was a gentleman. Well-dressed, well-mannered. and meant-well. And made every Iranian proud.

Monarchy is outdated. Had he realized that soon enough, and had he chaged the system to Republic, now Iranians didn't have to deal with these ayatollahs and mullahs cockroaches !

Come on guys. Reza Pahlavi seems like a nice guy and a gentleman. Why should we blame him because of his father !!


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Thank you for a great and honest job!

by parsua (not verified) on

Dear Arvand,

I would like to express my appreciation for doing such a great job. YOu are as classy as the Prince.
Obviously he doesn't have the complexes that some Iranins do.
Some people need anger management really bad!!

Zendeh bad

Parsua


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Re: anonymous from cali

by khashmgin1 on

anony from cali, are you so intellectually bankrupt and at loss of words that you attack not Ghool's but his ID for crying outloud? So what he chose the word "ghool"? It's just an ID, get a life you moron. 


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Bush can't sit across the table and reason with OBL and the rest

by Ghool on

 

Hence, the Shahies can not sit across the table and reason with Anonymous from Cali, Foad, et al.

The only language Anonymous from Cali, Foad, #8, and the rest of these single-digits IQ understand is the language of force.

 


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