Sic Semper Tyrannis

It is heartwarming to see…..

So many different people, all in opposition to IRI, yet commonly and rather unanimously believe that change MUST come from within, if Iranians are to succeed in having freedom and political independence for foreign powers.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Bahmani

Chon shomai chashm. Age kase digei bood zir bar nemiraftam vali barye ehtrame shoma: chashm!

VPK aka Al-Muqanna: Thanks, we can respectfully disagree!

As long as you don't send any raiders or looters my way... OK maybe looters. But definitely don't send any raiders.

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Bahmani

Iran Freed by Iranians tastes sweeter, lasts longer

I agree with you; despite previous differences I will call a sensible idea what is it. You are right and that is all I have to say. 

Iran Freed by Iranians tastes sweeter, lasts longer

We have seen the disastrous effects of foreign intervention to free enslaved countries suffering under dictatorship.

In our case we have seen the wrong side of foreign intervention, installing a dictator, instead of removing one.

Although I have been greatly disappointed by Ebadi's lack of courage during the one most obvious moment in her life, I completely believe in her words, "Democracy cannot be exported. It can only be Imported."

Those and the words of G.K. Chesterton, who said, "You can never have a revolution in order to establish democracy. You must have a democracy in order to have a revolution."

Iran freed at the hands of Iranians, who then use their wits and intelligence and craft a state of the art constitution that protects individual rights and freedom and removes the cancer of religion from government, is a far sweeter and lasting democracy than any you can buy (with your soul) from the most generous interventionist outside powers.

Plus, in 2500 years, we've never once actually tried it.

Iranians have to stop looking for seemingly cheap solutions, and avoiding the fact that we may have to start considering that some blood might have to be shed to get our country back from our fellow Iranians, who simply refuse to give up on God's laws.

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Not the Egyptian!

Please if Iran wants to change don't use Egyptian or Libyan model. They are more Islamic than IRR! At least in Iran they did not go on a wholesale killing of Armenians.

Watch how Coptic Christians are getting it in Egypt. Libya is about to disintegrate and has already done so practically. No thanks not those models. Ghaddafi is looking better by the day. You know what are some higlights of new Libyan constitution: 

• establish Islam as the official state religion,
• ban the praise of any religion other than Islam,
• identify Islamic Sharia law as the primary source of legislation

Is this what you want for Iran post IRI? No thank you. Make it better or don't bother. Now people need a visa to go from town to town. If we learned one thing from IRI is it could always get worse. Don't make that mistake again or we are scre***.

Occupy Iran Movement

An idea whose time had come?

Easier said than done. What gave the ultimate advantage to the original Tunisian and Egyptian cases and the recent OWS movement is that: they came out of nowhere, we see a big element of surprise in all of them. In the case of IRI is the exact opposite.

And yet with splits and cracks at the top, combined with mass refusal and collective action from below, makes for a combustable combo, this thing is going down.

COP, thanks.

Quickly-- for everyone's FYI

I'm not supporting military action.  Just making an analogy and throwing out a question, perhaps to show a bit of hypocricy and double standard.

Gotta go.  Will respond later. 

AO jaan, huh?

I know the point you're trying to make here, but if we want true change, if we want our people to leave the 7th century once and for all, then whatver change we aspire MUST come from within.

Bradley fighting vehicles parked on Pahlavi Steert next to the disappearing trees will not do my friend.

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IRAN FIRST

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Your Question, is easy to answer, legally logically and morally.

So why are COTWs against military intervention by powerful
nations for the removal of dictatorships and oppressors around the
planet?

Legally a pre-planned war is an act of agression, no matter what the reason or goal. All the crimes that follow are the responsibility of the side that started the war of aggression.  That is why both GW Bush and Tony Blair are technically war criminals, yet no one can bring them to court.  War is never the answer, even though it becomes necessary for one side to start to save itself, provided it is corrupt and tyrannical itself.  This world we live in so far from ideal that sometimes I can not believe it, but it has functioned this way and will likely continue.

I am with Mohammad Ala and AmirKabir

What makes you think that the West wants dictators gone? If you had a realistic view of the world you would see this. Most dictators are actively promoted by the West until they are inconvenient. Then replace with another one.

When you do get a "democracy" they still rip you off. Sure better ripped off than hanged! So maybe they will be so kind to return Iran to a nice economic dictator like we used to have. I'd take it!

AO

What you need to consider is that it is not the people of the world who make decisions BUT the governments. They do not want democracy as there is more money in dictatorship.

In other words these powerful nations prefer what is rulling over Iran.

Fairness and Equality in Justice

Which ones? Political dictators or Economic dictators?

Which dictators, political or economic? //iranian.com/main/2011/aug/who-blame

It is a common knowledge that Western countries breeds and feeds "dictators" who practice torture to stay in power. The jargon about human rights and reforms is a trick used to fool people. The murdering of innocent people is carried out under the supervision of the US and UK. It is beyond logic that regimes where women are forbidden to drive a car can survive without the help of Western governments. Many in the Middle East believe that the West encourages and supports corrupt and brutal dictators to promote its economic interests; lip service is paid to "human rights" but the reality is different.

Occupy Iran Movement!

By the brave Iranian people and the support of the world community.