The Iranian Interest

AnonymousAnonymous

Now, here's the truth--your very first post stated: "There are a hell
of a lot of Arab's eating America's bread."--P.S. There is no reason
for an apostrophe after "Arab"; it should read "Arabs" not "Arab's.

That has nothing to do with what you challenged me on.  This is what you challenged me on:

Several posts ago, I posed the following to you: "I'm not aware of any
nation (Arab, Muslim or otherwise) in which a significant portion of
its GDP is constituted by US aid. Which Arab or Muslim countries "rely
on US aid just to meet their basic needs."

And note, I never said anything about GDP either. You like to just make shit up, don't you? :D

And now that I answered your challenge and proved you wrong, not only do you refuse to admit it but you switched to arguing semantics. But you didn't even need me to prove you wrong anyway, you knew thatthe claims you were making were incorrect before you ever made them.

Nice job, dirtbag.

"The Programmer": Unintentionally Hilarious

You state: "I didn't say anything about "Arab" or "Muslim" countries"

Now, here's the truth--your very first post stated: "There are a hell of a lot of Arab's eating America's bread."--P.S. There is no reason for an apostrophe after "Arab"; it should read "Arabs" not "Arab's.

You're the one who brought "Arab" into it, not me. I included "Muslim" countries along with the Arab ones, because Iran is a Muslim-majority country with a predominantly non-Arab population (and after all, this is Iranian.com).

Your words DO have value for me: roughly, the value of all the windage in the world (per capita, of course).

Best Regards and Good Luck with the "Programming"

AnonymousAnonymous

Several posts ago, I posed the following to you: "I'm not aware of any
nation (Arab, Muslim or otherwise) in which a significant portion of
its GDP is constituted by US aid. Which Arab or Muslim countries "rely
on US aid just to meet their basic needs."

(I didn't say anything about "Arab" or "Muslim" countries, you did)

For my example, I will use China. The Chinese would starve (to death) if teh Government didn't use my tax money to subsidize farming here in the US, and didn't send food to China at trivial cost. Can luxembourg feed 1.6 billion people? And China isn't the only country in that boat, you can find some in teh Arab(and Muslim) world too.

I'd like you to apologize for putting words in my mouth, at the same time you apolgize for being wrong - and being so obnoxious and offensive about it. Let me know when you get ready to do that... in the emantime, I will add you to the list of people I scroll past on this website. Your words have no value.

"The Programmer": full of windage and little more

Numerous socioeconomic measures are measured per capita (for example, GDP; consumption of various commodities; spending on health, education, and foreign aid--to name a few). Quit your mind-numbing stupidity just this one time. I know that you're embarrassed that I caught you in another one of your characteristic falsehoods, namely your dubious claim that "There are a ghell (sic) of a lot of people all over the world who rely on US aid just to meet their basic needs."

Several posts ago, I posed the following to you: "I'm not aware of any nation (Arab, Muslim or otherwise) in which a significant portion of its GDP is constituted by US aid. Which Arab or Muslim countries "rely on US aid just to meet their basic needs."

Please help me understand which Arab or Muslim countries "rely on US aid just to meet their basic needs." Thank you.

AnonymousAnonymous

It is plain common sense to look at "per capita" aid rather than aid in absolute terms.

No, it isn't. You used "per capita" to distort the facts in both directions.

You made it seem like the aid levels to the countries with the smallest of populations are more important than the aid levels to the  countries with the largets of poupulations.

And you made it seem like the aid levels from the donor countries with the smallest populations (and economies) were more important than the aid levels from donor countries with the largest of populations (and economies).

What matters is the degree of need, and the degree of aid that is supplied to those in need. Raw numbers are what matter. Not "per capita" numbers.

Your tactics on this one are cheap. And sleazy.

Follow-up- to "The Programmer"

It is plain common sense to look at "per capita" aid rather than aid in absolute terms. Would one expect a tiny country (for example, Luxembourg--population: 480,000) to provide the same total amount as a nation with a population of some 300 million?

In 2007, the United States increased its military aid to Israel by over 25%, to an average of $3 billion per year for the following ten year period (starting at $2.550 billion for 2008, growing by $150 million each year). The package is scheduled to start October 2008, when regular economic aid to Israel's economy is to end.

Egypt receives about $2 billion annually--$1.3 billion in foreign military financing and about $815 million in economic support fund assistance --making it the second largest regular recipient of conventional U.S. military and economic aid, after Israel.

Americans: A nation of givers

For its March/April 2008 issue, The American has run an intriguing research by Arthur C. Brooks, a visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, who maintains that Americans are the most giving people in the world.

For instance, he asks, “Are Americans more or less charitable than citizens of other countries?” His findings: “No developed country approaches American giving.

For example, in 1995 (the most recent year for which data are available), Americans gave, per capita, three and a half times as much to causes and charities as the French, seven times as much as the Germans, and 14 times as much as the Italians.

Similarly, in 1998, Americans were 15 percent more likely to volunteer their time than the Dutch, 21 percent more likely than the Swiss, and 32 percent more likely than the Germans.”

Dubious claims by AnonymousAnonymous

The only one who mentioned "epr Capita" is you. Your claims about "aid" being provided in the form of military equipment are quite suspicious as well.

Dubious Claims by Programmer and AmirAshkan

"Programmer",

You say: "There are a ghell (sic) of a lot of people all over the world who rely on US aid just to meet their basic needs." I'm not aware of any nation (Arab, Muslim or otherwise) in which a significant portion of its GDP is constituted by US aid. Which Arab or Muslim countries "rely on US aid just to meet their basic needs."

"AmirAshkan",

You state: "Americans are the most giving nation in the world." What is your basis for such a claim?

Below is a ranking of per-capita economic aid. (Moreover, a majority of US government foreign aid is military assistance to Israel and Egypt; since much of this money goes to buy US weaponry, this is hardly disinterested aid. On a per capita basis, Israel receives about 15 times what Egypt gets):

#1 Luxembourg: $519.75 per capita 2004 ...
#2 Denmark: $393.28 per capita 2005 ...
#3 Norway: $315.88 per capita 1998 ...
#4 Netherlands: $246.53 per capita 2003 ...
#5 Sweden: $192.10 per capita 1997 ...
#6 United Kingdom: $177.66 per capita 2005 ...
#7 France: $165.92 per capita 2005 ...
#8 Finland: $162.12 per capita 2005 ...
#9 Switzerland: $156.23 per capita 1995 ...
#10 Ireland: $149.20 per capita 2004 ...
#11 Belgium: $103.75 per capita 2002 ...
#12 Austria: $83.31 per capita 2004 ...
#13 Canada: $81.28 per capita 2004 ...
#14 Japan: $69.66 per capita 2004 ...
#15 Germany: $68.25 per capita 1998 ...
#16 Australia: $44.99 per capita 2003 ...
#17 Spain: $33.31 per capita 1999 ...
#18 Portugal: $27.03 per capita 1995 ...
#19 United States: $25.31 per capita 1997 ...
#20 New Zealand: $24.32 per capita 2005 ...
#21 Iceland: $22.94 per capita 2004 ...
#22 Italy: $17.50 per capita 2002 ...
#23 Korea, South: $15.41 per capita 2005 ...

Here's another ranking. You'll see that the US sits close to the bottom of the pack:

//www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0930884.html

Craig

I surrender!

Americans are the most giving nation in the world.

"Whoever eats the Sultan's

"Whoever eats the Sultan's bread fights with the Sultan sword," goes a Bedouin proverb.

There are a hell of a lot of Arab's eating America's bread. There are a ghell of a lot of people all over the world who rely on US aid just to meet their basic needs. I've never noticed them doing our bidding, have you?