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I find it very accurate Rosie jan. Although this is not the only reason of the eternal conflict and separtion of the bodies in Iran, but this is a global view, on what is going on right now (and most of the critical times in Iran)

You should blog this one. Thanks for your continuous effort on this matter. The links you provide are all excellent.

Elephant in the room

Everyone is saying the genie is out of the bottle.

But the elephant is still in the room.

The elephant, the thing that is glaringly obvious but  almost everyone wants to ignore, is that from Shah himself through Revolution through various Reform movements, the urban educated sector has never understood or tried to learn the language of the poor.

It is because of any one of, or a combination of, contempt, fear, being patronizing, or even just plain lazy. All of these factors fal under the blanket term "Elitism'. which you do hear now and then.

If you do not have faith in the poor, why should the poor have faith in you?

So over the course of time, the rift widens and now you have the young poor recruiting to the Basij in droves and shooting these kids

I think the communication should happen one on one as well. With one week's hindsight it wouldn't've made any difference, but most analysts thought there would be a run-off, and when I kept seeing all the kids in green partying in the street, I thought it would be better if some of them got a good night's sleep and drove to the country in the morning and talk to the rural devout people oneon one (or not even, you have them in South Tehran,but it is important to tap the heartland.)..

and ask these people, who would you rather be like (or who would you rather your sister, daughter, wife, cousin, etc.) be like? Moussavi's or AN's wife? The answer would be clear with five minute's patience to explain it.

prove that Moussavi's economic plan. etc. will benefit them better than the handouts AN gives, and that he really has their best interests at heart.

and so on.

It is the responsibility of these sectors to educate the poor, not the other way around, and if they do not do it, guess who will?

I am not saying it would've made a difference at this point so late in the day, I am just saying this is an old problem and now the kids getting shot are paying the price.

What do you think?

Thanks dear Rosie

I'd got this video by email. A very good analysis, although Pepe didn't get to the root of the economic problems within Ahmadinejad's government. Most of these crisis comes from AN's international politics, including the nuclear project which caused the sanction form the western countries. This sanction, in turn, has caused many clashes and crisis in Iran's economy.

That was a very objective analysis, I liked it.

Pepe Escovar

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very personal opinion

Rosie jan,

You want my very personal opinion? 

This is what I think, personally and upon my sole intuition:

Yes, the election was rigged, like it is (or could be) in all other countries. A percentage of fraud is possible, but not at this grand scale!

Means, they may have tried to rig this election in favor of Ahmadinejad, but at the same time, he REALLY got the majority of the votes, which added to that fraud gave the big percentage of 62 :)

This tralala of the after election, has been already organized as another alternative.  Honey jan, if you think you know Rafsanjani, then think again. Nobody has yet known him enough inside of Iran, leave alone outside of the country. He is a real blood sucker!

Well,first.of.all.it.is.a.very.informative.article..

but.it.seems.to.assume.the.election.wasn't.rigged.

The.election.sounds.like.something.out.of.Monty.Python.

What.do.you.think?

Thank you thank you :)

The most complete report I have ever read on this  complex yet evident calumny. I wish more people would read this article.

Very insightful article.