Saudis, Egypt snatch US-backed peace track from Turkey. Assad is willing.
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08-May-2009 (7 comments)

One reason for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's urgent visit to Damascus Tuesday, May 5, according to DEBKAfile's
intelligence sources, was to thwart a Saudi-Egyptian move to snatch the
indirect Syrian-Israeli peace track backed by Washington from Turkey
and relocate it in the Jordanian capital, Amman.

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Mehdi Mazloom

VICTORY OF PEACE OVER WAR.

by Mehdi Mazloom on

Ever wondered why the little guy from Tehran was rushed to Syria, all under  the pretense of "economic cooperation" between Iran & Syria. Here is the real story behind that prompt trip. The noose around the Mullahs is tightening by the day. Once Israel and Syria do conclude their peace agreement. It will serve the security and stability of the region. At the  same time cut off Hizbollah & Hamas air suply from Iran, and the Mullah's major tentacle is severed.

And these backword akhoodah thought, they have the Arabs  in their back pocket. They don't.



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Mehdi Mazloom

Osaad, the question of ownership

by Mehdi Mazloom on

you wrote:

.... the land was captured so its status need to be negotiated and returned
to previous owner/inhabitants in the context of peace negotiations.

Wasn't the whole 2000 Camp David enchilada about just that?. What happened?, Arafat still was not happy because he couldn't defeat the Israelis through his demographic insidious plan. Otherwise, what was his Dixie song about "right of Return" all about. If he was genuine about two state solution, why would he insist on that provision knowing full well, Israel would never accept it no matter what?.

Also, how can Israel negotiate with Hamas which insists of taking all the land, not just Gaza, & WB. ( have you read their charter?, I did)

Syria: Look, I truly respect you for your love for Iran, and your wish to see it strong, and prosper. Nothing unusual about it.

What I have problem is when you (and other pundits) refuse to see the light, or otherwise use your common sense to derive to a conclusion.

Just think for a moment. Syria under Bashar is a secular, it is NOT an outright Shi'ite state. Iran is run by a fundamentalist Shi't regime, who is working hard to subvert other Arab regimes in the  region, to radicals ones.

Furthermore, what Syria needs assistance with technological knowhow for economic development. Now you tell me, which side has the wherewithal to help it. Iran?, or the Sunni Arab states (Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt), the U.S., and Israel, which most likely would return the Golan Heights as part of the peace negotiation, w/o firing a single shot.

What those Mullahs are capable of providing Syria, except means of war. Iran can't  even meet its own economical needs, let alone help Syria.

Bashar is not stupid, and as western educated (who's wife is English born), knows very well that, improved relationship with US and Israel will serve his country AND his own regime then his alliance with the Mullahs.

In regards to your repeated comment about DebkaFiles. I will take this site over PressTV any day.


Ostaad

Mazloom, there's no international law that says...

by Ostaad on

if you win a war you can annex the territories that you capture during the war. As for the disputed land, you may have a point, not because NO ONE owned the land, but because precisely the reason that the land was captured so its status need to be negotiated and returned to previous owner/inhabitants in the context of peace negotiations. That is exactly the reason the international law and the US have declared the Jewish settlements on the occupied territories as ILEGAL.

Regarding Syria's relations with Iran, I sure don't think Israel in any position to influence that a bit. Syria has made a strategic decision to align itself with Iran for its own reasons. Israel as usual is barking off the wrong tree.

I repeat, if you believe DEBKAfiles, you ARE as dumb as a dasteh aaftaabeh.


Mehdi Mazloom

Osaad, DebkaFile

by Mehdi Mazloom on

No mister,  I am not dumb as dasteh aftaabeh. You will be very surprise to  learn that, in more then one occasion  DF was right with its publications.

Whoever (Israeli) is behind it, seems to know his shit.

In regards to Golan Height, I know a great deal about it. Unlike the WB & Gaza, this territory was owned by a sovereign country (of Syria). In 1967 Syria, together with Jordan & Egypt was attacking northern Israel.  We took the initiative to defend the country,  stopped their aggression. Along the line we conquered the Golan Height, with clear intention to push the Syrian artillery as far back as possible.

It is an indisputable International law that, when you are attacked by your neighboring state, you are entitled to annex or hold any land which  was conquered while defending yourself.

After more then 15 years of attempting to reach peace agreement with Syria, where Israel would return the GH to Syria, to no avail, In 1982 Israel did annex it. (Since Gaza & WB were not a recognized state, the land there is considered a disputed land, legally owned by no one).

I  am sure, Bibi's comments was intended to deliver a message to Bashar, hey Koon go-shaad, don't push too hard on concession from us, otherwise you will lose the heights for good.

A peace treaty with Israel, and return of the GH to Sysria, will serve Assad's prestigue, and help his counry with the rest of the West & the Sunni Arabs, far more then hinging his future of the fundementalist Mullahs in teharan, who, at the right moment will replace him with another Islamist regime in Syria. He is well aware of that ominous fact. 


Ostaad

...but Anonymous visitor, just how...

by Ostaad on

is Syria going to arrive at that moment when the Golan as "just a pretence", rather than a real national problem for Syria, would "diappear"?  What is Israel offering Syria if it's not the Golan?

You know I'm glad you brought it up. I never thought it would be so easy. 


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Ostaad

by Anonymous visitor (not verified) on

Syria does not need Golan for peace. Golan is just a pretense to continue the state of aggression with Israel, that will disappear as soon as Syrian dictator decides it is not useful anymore.


Ostaad

Mazloom, if you believe what you read in DEBKAfiles, then...

by Ostaad on

you must be as dumb as a dasteh aaftaabeh.

Are you talking about this peace?

Netanyahu: Israel will never withdraw from Golan 

//www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1084194.html