Brake Lights on Iran
The Washington Post / Michael Gerson
18-Mar-2009 (24 comments)

This month, Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, gave his first public comments on the new era of openness and diplomacy. He attacked Obama for adopting George W. Bush's strategic commitment to Israel, calling that nation a "cancerous tumor." He expressed unequivocal support for terrorist movements such as Hamas and Hezbollah, and he criticized Palestinian leaders for any compromise with the "Zionist regime."

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Mola Nasredeen

Missy's logic:

by Mola Nasredeen on

I'm white, I must be right

Right!


anonymous fish

i can always tell when there's a zealot

by anonymous fish on

without their morning coffee.  you don't know diddly about me...lol.  you follow the crowd and call me names when you don't have the vaguest idea of what you're talking about.  you either can't read or don't WANT to see something other than the ugly agenda you're developed in your mind.  take a few minutes and unscramble the eggs in your head and answer a few questions for ME.

what exactly is a zionist?  do you even know?

how do you think you know what my feelings are on attacking iran?  are you going to sit here and try to convince me or anyone else that you've seen ANYTHING... anything at all... from me regarding attacking iran?  EVER??????  you can't, you fool, because i've never ever mentioned or discussed or referred to an attack on iran.  in any way, shape or form.  you know NADA about my feelings.

i am extremely educated.  what YOU don't like is that i'm not a head-nodding puppet like you are, following the crowd in their anti-this and anti-that rants.  unlike you IRI supporters, i can think for myself.  i make my own decisions about issues.  you just follow the ignorant masses.

people like you don't WANT a solution to the problems in iran. that would entail your having to actually DO something other than sit in america or wherever you ran to.  you LIKE complaining about everything and everyone.  you LIKE blaming the west for all the problems.  because then you don't have to do something about it.  i don't have a lot of respect for you, no.  the people i have respect for are the ones living in iran and putting their ass on the line, every single day.  each little rebellion costs them dearly.  it doesn't cost YOU a thing.  i have great respect for the iranians who left iran under the worst conditions possible... who tried to do something.

no.  don't waste anymore of my time calling me names.  you sound like a fool.


Mola Nasredeen

Missy if you walk like a duck, talk like a duck then

by Mola Nasredeen on

you are probably a duck. In this case a true blue Zionist. As soon as the subject of attacking Iran, or criticizing Israel, defending Palestinians, justice for the people of Middle East comes up you appear like a witch! I suspect you are another re-incarnation of Zion the Efriteh on this website. You are vulgar and uneducated about Iran, Iranians and Middle East. There is not much one could discuss with you. You are kind of ignorant and racist on top of it.

While the newspapers and media are reporting war crimes by Israel you are defending the Zionist and their actions. You are as Zionist as they come? Chew on that for a while missy. 


anonymous fish

oh Mola

by anonymous fish on

get over it.  you've got such a chip on your shoulder.  you're just waiting for someone to knock it off.

i AM american and i live in america.  as do the majority of iranians who've left iran.  so get OVER the "i'm iranian and better than everyone else.  you LEFT iran.. get it.  you CAME to america.  i know who i am.  do you? 

i AM christian.  i don't give a crap what you or anyone else is.  don't play that "she says this or that" game with me.  if you aren't, more power to you.  means NOTHING to me.

don't you DARE call me ANYTHING.  zionist or anything else.  you live in a glass house... you better be careful of stones.  dig it?  and if... IF i was a zionist, it's a damn sight better than your disgusting and vile IRI racist and biased bastards.  thanks to people like you and the lovely gol-dust, the US is quickly getting to the point where it doesn't give a damn about the middle east.  you'd like that, wouldn't you? give you another chance to call the west "the great satan". 

you can blow it out your a**.

i'm not confused about anything.  i don't NEED to be.  i live in a country where i can do what i want.... be what i want and say what i want.  you don't like that... go back to iran where you and your IRI buddies can try to bully everyone else.  ain't gonna cut it here bubba.

if iran doesn't "go forward", it will not be because of anything I said or gerson said or the West said.  it will be because people like YOU do nothing but sit on your ass and judge everyone else. 

and bitch.

get over it.


Mola Nasredeen

Miss anon-fish's "solution" for the Mid-East problem:

by Mola Nasredeen on

"I'm American, you are not
I'm Christian, you are not"

I like to add: You're confused, we are not. You are zionist, we are not.


gol-dust

Gerson is a die hard AIPAC and enemy of Iran!

by gol-dust on

Not worth it even reading aword on what he wrote, since his view as aradical is well known. Wants to make sure Iran does not go forward!


anonymous fish

Daryush

by anonymous fish on

Thank you Sir for your civil tone.  I have no qualms whatsoever addressing a respectful question from anyone. 

#1.  I am pro-jewish.  I do not have any bias or hatred for jews, either culturally or religiously.  Being catholic, judaism is... like a distant cousin if you will.  jesus was a jew, of course.  so right off the bat, i am aware of the persecution that jews have suffered and i am extremely defensive of that fact.  i will not get into a religious discussion because it's a lose-lose situation.  islam or christianity or judaism... you are what you are.  each and every one of them is quilty of crimes and atrocities.  NOT A SINGLE ONE is worse than the other.  occupation is a result of war and a fact of life.  it is not a crime.  stealing is interpretive as well.  stealing what?  what they rightfully believe is theirs?  believe me... if virtually the entire world has not resolved that particular issue, you and i aren't going to either.  i don't judge you on YOUR opinion of the matter.  please don't judge me on mine. 

#2.  it may be that i need to separate somewhat between the two... judaism as it relates to jews specifically, and israel as it relates to israeli's and what most people perceive as a military state instead of a homeland for jews.

#3.  i am not blind to anything.  i'm not accusing YOU of being blind either.  but it IS a fact that most iranians are.... disinclined to be sympathetic to jews.  i'm not saying all iranians are anti-semitic.  but the sentiments range from supportive to totally neutral to mildly critical to out and out hatred.  it is my conclusion that trying to reason with MOST iranians about israel is a losing battle because of some inate and long term cultural bias.  this is hardly something anyone can deny.

#4.  i am neither iranian or jewish as you point out.  my support of israel is no more determined by media bias than yours is.  and i resent strongly that it is implied.  people like jaleho and ID like to toss out "media bias" like they have a patent on the word.  they have ZERO idea where my support comes from and i have ZERO responsibility to explain it to them or anyone else.  but let me assure you that the media is the LEAST influential aspect.  i have also concluded that media bias is a tool used by some people to intimidate. 

#5.  it is my personal observation that iranians are extremely defensive.  i believe there exists certain double standards.  most will automatically claim media bias when a negative side of iran is shown. conversely, those very same people want to USE the media to promote THEIR agenda by providing link after link after link of anti-israeli propaganda.  can you put yourself outside the box for just one moment and think about that?  can you see that it might possibly be true?

#6.  just because i support the jews doesn't mean i'm blind to certain behavior.  do i think they went overboard in palestine?  yes, i do.  do i think they overstepped human compassion in some cases?  yes, i do.  do i think they were provoked?  yes, absolutely.  i believe that hamas is a greater threat to palestine than israel will ever be.  i believe that hamas used palestinians in a MUCH MORE criminal way than israel.  i think israel took unfair advantage and hoped that the public would overlook some of their crimes and focus on hamas.   i think it backfired... big time. 

#7.  just because i am aware of some of the US's faults doesn't mean i hate america.  do you hate iran because of what the IRI does?  of course you don't.  and i don't blame israel or jews for what their government does either.  i think i can separate between my  support of jews and my distrust for the government.  i don't think most iranians can or do.  i think some iranians are guilty of the very thing they accuse the US of.  that negative media bias shows the iranian people as terrorists and their resentment that they are always shown to be the "bad" guys. 

your comment pretty much sums of the collective attitude of iranians and iranian.com... "I see them the absolute wrong"... i believe you (figuratively speaking of course) see what you want to see.  i believe i am somewhat more objective. 

and last but not least.  i am usually for the underdog.  :-) 

just to make it perfectly clear, i am answering a question.  i am not inviting and will not respond to the usual ranting by some other commentors. 

daryush.  if you wish to respond, please do.  but let's agree to be mutually respectful... ok?  i'm sure this is much more than you wanted or expected but i'm trying to anticipate what you're really asking.

peace out.


Daryush

anonymous fish Would you please answer

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Why are you so concern about Israel? Don't you find that somehow puzzling?

Knowing deep inside that occupation is not good, stealing is wrong, and oppression is the worse thing...What is it that drives you so much to defend "Israelis"? Would you explain yourself. I am always confused about those "non Israelis" who are totally blind to what Israel is and stands for and focus on bunch of nomads and refugees as "EVIL.

Personally deep down inside, I don't care for either of them. I know now that Israelis have lost their Human way and forced themselves with whatever reasoning to see themselves RIGHT, while there is no book or moral compass that tells you what they did was right. Nothing they did was right.

Would you be kind enough to explain what it is that draws you to see them the absolute right, as I see them the absolute wrong, based on their actions? Do you agree that what they have done is right? Please be direct and simple. Thanks


Daryush

To All damagh gondeh haa

by Daryush on

Iran Uber Alles


capt_ayhab

Read the comments

by capt_ayhab on

If you guys read the comments that are made by AMERICANS on WP you will realize the uggliness of the article and powers behind it. Here are some examples:

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mathewneville wrote: Patriot
and author, Grant F. Smith, Director for the Institute of Research
Middle East Policy publication, Foreign Agents ------- The American
Israel Public Affairs Committee from the 1963 Fulbright Hearings to the
2005 Espionage Scandal, exposes how US Middle East policy has been
formulated and thrives due to the dearth of relevant reporting on
AIPAC's activities. This book should be read by every American tax
payer, Congress and foreign policy maker.

It begins with Senator Fulbright's on target questions to
Jewish-Agency-funded US foreign agents who did not register with the
Justice Department or disclose their true financing, funding flows and
covert activities and illuminates how AIPAC: the American Israel Public
Affairs Committee operates "within a murky nexus regulated by four
important but seldom enforced US laws." [1]

The lax enforcement of The Logan Act, The Foreign Agents Registration
Act/FARA, the 1917 Espionage Act, Thompson Memorandum guidelines for
prosecuting corporate crime coupled with the fear of being labeled
anti-Semitic and a media who have failed at their commission to seek
and report the truth have all colluded to exert an undue influence over
Congress and thus; we the people of America to be "under the de facto
influence of a powerful foreign interest." [2]

Smith documents how AIPAC-a constellation of individuals and
organizations that make up the "Israel lobby" continue to actively
steer USA foreign policy in a militant and pro-Israel only direction.

Senator Fulbright's concerns over activities of unregistered foreign
agents who worked to influence public opinion and policy resulted in
the 1963 Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings to investigate the
Jewish Agency and uncovered the "conduit" operation run by the American
Zionist Council. In 1959, The American Zionist Council was renamed
AIPAC.

Within eight years, the Council received over a half a million "from
the Jewish Agency to create a favorable opinion in this country for
Israeli government policies. The Senate investigation closed down the
conduit, but the extensive propaganda activities still go on…[and] by
1998, "US aid to Israel exceeded $3 billion a year, the highest amount
of US aid given to any country".

"AIPAC's illegal tactics harm America…[and] corporate crime inflicts
far more damage on society than all street crime combined…Harvard
economist Thomas Stauffer estimated the total cost of [the] prolonged
conflict in the Middle East at $3 trillion [in 2002 USA dollars and he]
lays a good deal of the blame for this at the doorstep of AIPAC". 3/19/2009 11:42:05 AM ----------------------------------------------------   frklynson wrote: Another
guy more worried about Israel than the US. If Israel is concerned about
nuclear weapons next door, it should support a US led effort to
establish a nuclear weapon "free zone" in the M/East. The first step
would be for Israel, the only nuclear weapon power in the region, to
step forth and allow the IAEA to inspect the facilities at Dimona AND
to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Saddam Hussein kept
rattling his empty cage because he feared his neighbors would find out
he was toothless and Iran is engaging in the same tactic and what
country would not when faced with a neighbor with an ever lengthing
history of pre-emptive attacks. 3/18/2009 11:34:07 PM -----------------------------------------------   mitt1968 wrote: I support Iran because that country may end, once and for all, US worship of Israeli war criminals.

Iran has its problems too, but it is high time that the United States
stop its illegal, immoral and unbelievably self-destructive promotion
of Israel. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, as King Solomon used to
say, and right now the support must go to Iran. 3/18/2009 9:18:07 PM -------------------------------------------------   johnpauljones1 wrote: Gerson
has so little credibility and writes so poorly. It would be refreshing
if the Post would allow some real journalists to write opinion pieces
from time to time. 3/18/2009 8:08:32 PM ---------------------------------------   There are 100's of comments from reader much like these. educate yourselves to the reality of AIPAC.

 

-YT


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Zionists are blind and deaf when it comes to Israel

by zionist detector (not verified) on

It's because of their idealogy, like other fanatics, religious or not. We don't expect them to get it. They are already blinded by their racist ideology.


anonymous fish

once again

by anonymous fish on

a lot of talk and nothing said.


Q

anonymous fish,

by Q on

i'm not sure what your point is.

Yea, I had a feeling you won't get it. The rest of your comment is based on a complete misunderstanding so there' no point to answer it. Except to say, why are you calling anybody "my buddies"?

Can I call random people your buddies too? Are you Fred's buddy for example? ???

and when did I say we or claim to speak for Americans.

you ARE confused.

you want to start your own blog with links... go right ahead.

OK, great idea.


anonymous fish

Q

by anonymous fish on

i'm not sure what your point is. the point of THIS article is that your buddies khamenei and ahmadinejad, not, repeat NOT ALL IRANIANS, called israel a cancerous tumor.  it's not something you can argue with so don't bother trying to confuse the issue by claiming someone else has done it as well.  you want to start your own blog with links... go right ahead.  THIS blog is clearly exposing your buddies khamenei and ahmadinejad, not, repeat NOT ALL IRANIANS, intentions towards israel.  the only conspiracy is YOUR pathetic agenda in trying to distract from the evils of your regime.  quoting freeman is hardly a advocacy for the disgusting hatred and bias of the IRI (not, repeat NOT ALL IRANIANS).  i sometimes wonder who you and your buddies are referring to when you say "we".  cause it's for sure you're not speaking for all americans.


Fred

"cancerous tumor"

by Fred on

Islamist defends his leader.  Defending the vilest is the mother's milk of the Islamist ideology


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“The tactics of the Israel Lobby plumb the depths of dishonor

by zionist detector (not verified) on

and indecency and include character assassination, selective misquotation, the willful distortion of the record, the fabrication of falsehoods, and an utter disregard for the truth. The aim of this Lobby is control of the policy process through the exercise of a veto over the appointment of people who dispute the wisdom of its views, the substitution of political correctness for analysis, and the exclusion of any and all options for decision by Americans and our government other than those that it favors."

These are not my words, it's Charles Freeman's words the nominee for the Chairman of the National Intelligence Council. The one who had to resign by the Israeli Lobby. We don't dream what we say, we look, we observe, we think and then we conclude.

We are fed up as American citizens and American tax payer for the mess Israel and Zionism have got us into. We as Iranian-Americans are vibrant, peaceful, and law abiding citizens, many of us are Baha'i, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, and Zoroastrian. But we are not at the service of Israel and we don't advocate for attacking Iran to please the criminal regime of Israel. This is what we are talking about.


Q

anonymous fish

by Q on

"cancer", "tumor", referring to an entire population like a foul disease.


anonymous fish

Q

by anonymous fish on

what "specific term" are you referring to?  just want to make sure i understand you correctly.

thanks.


Q

LOL, are you not aware of who popularized that term for decades?

by Q on

It was the Zionist term of choice for Arabs for years and still continues! (anonymous fish, sorry to prove you right)

Looks like the old man has been browsing the Internets getting ideas.

http://www.masada2000.org/cancerwithin.html
http://zionreport.blogspot.com/2005/12/arab-cancer...

Now.. I'm sure Gerson has written numerous comments on these remarks as well.... he just can't find it right now... if he did, I'm sure Fred is fair minded enough to post those as well.

even the recent ones spoken by Israel's leadership
http://www.tikkun.org/article.php/2009030720002464...
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/945299.html


anonymous fish

well yeah...

by anonymous fish on

THAT makes all the difference in the world...LOL.  that is called "splitting hairs".

either they (khamenei and ahmadinejad, not, repeat NOT ALL IRANIANS) said it or they didn't.  the IRI (not, repeat NOT ALL IRANIANS) hates the US.  there is no sugar coating those facts.  the IRI (not, repeat NOT ALL IRANIANS) denies the holocaust.  i hate the IRI (not, repeat NOT ALL IRANIANS). 

ain't nothin' new.  spin away...:-)


I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

this is a column NOT an article

by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on

Michael Gerson is the author of the "AXIS OF EVIL" speech. What a trophy that must be.

 


anonymous fish

jeez Fred

by anonymous fish on

they must not be reading the same article i read.  what this has to do with zionists is beyond me.  oh... i forgot... this too is a zionist conspiracy?  khamenei DIDN'T really call israel a cancerous tumor, right?  and the media lied about iran supporting hamas and hezbollah.  right?  that damned media bias again!  distorting everything the IRI is trying to say!!!!

damn zionists!  here is khamenei and ahmadinejad making nice nice to obama and the united states... wanting to be friends and play together... and those damn zionist are screwing it up again! 

i just don't understand how the public could be so anti-iran!  these guys just LOVE the united states of america!  why can't we see that!


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Zionists will lose, justice will prevail..

by zionist detector (not verified) on

With all the anti-Iranian propaganda in all quarters of power in the west I do believe justice will prevail after all. Zionism is racism, who says so? United Nations says so. Zionism has proved to be a criminal idealogy, why? look at the massacre they committed in Gaza just a couple of month ago. Who cares what another Zionist writes in a Zionist controlled newspaper? We know better.


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GW's speechwriter is the one who's confused

by Shadooneh (not verified) on

Apparently Michael Gerson has missed all the positive signals Iran has sent to Obama! Who's-who of Iranian leadership have explicitly said they welcome better relationships with the US. The US has in no uncertain terms announced it wants to talk to Iran. what really gives these out-of-the-loop talking heads is indigestion is they are yesterday's news and they can't take it. Michael Gerson and other residents of Hasbeenistan are still regurgitating the worn-out neo-con canard about Iran supporting terrorism and other nonsense in order to muddy the waters.
The good news is this character and others like him are either writing useless op-eds or basically collecting unemployment check.