In response to Jahanshah Javid's photo essay, "Good people, good work".
Thank you NIAC.
I was not going to post any comments, but I am really disturbed by the likes of MasoudA. He said to have an interview on Pars TV. Didn’t we see what Pars TV do in Los Angeles a few months ago? A donkey (olagh) would not behaved liked the person who was shouting. Is this what MasoudA calls democracy: to shout like olagh and silence people who disagree with you? MasoudA has lied and I hope NIAC takes him to court so that he would learn a few things about democracy. MasoudA has no shame to call people names. Why hasn’t MasoudA and his charlatan people at IU done anything meaningful for Iran? Why attack someone or an organization which is doing something? How many times does NIAC have to direct us to their financial page on THEIR website. How many times? Someone said they have done it 15 times, isn’t this enough? This cartoon fortunately has exposed MasoudA.
be real glad you don't live under the Pahlavi dictatorship. You would have disappeared by now!
needs to stay on focus. Please go to one of the other blogs where we were debating the psychology issue.
Solh va Doosti (paz a vosotros)
As suggested on another thread, do a quick Google of "anti psychiatry". If the simple observation of barberic practices of psychiatry (fully supported by psychologists) such as electric shock "therapy" (torture in CIA terms), poisons (medicines), random and casual brain cutting (lobotomy or by its latest misleading term "psycho-surgery"), etc, does not turn your stomach and also doesn't help you understand that this group believs in the idea that man is an animal and you see nothing wrong, there is not much I can tell you, I am afraid. The only reason people go to psychologists and psychiatrists is because it is paid by the insurance companies and governments. If that support ended today, in two weeks all of them would have to find new careers!
You might as well start creating that list of things to do, to gain the Iranian communities trust. It is going to be a very long and complex one. :o)
What is a " sineh Zani"? By the way not all of us want masoudA harmed.
Thanks for the concern -
just be aware of the mullahs old tactics of creating an image of support. I am sure you know well about Mullahs tactics of illustrating fake support using hired or paid goons. Mullahs set-up sineh Zani in Manhattan - so don't put it past them to try to flogg this board - or bring their sineh zan crowd outside the Courtroom to force a win for Trita against Hassan Daei. Very predictable
I know it is not related with the issue being discussed. You were the one that brought it up when it was irrelevant. :o)
MaooudA you are lucky you live abroad. Otherwise, by the sound of the savage comments made against you, you would probably end up hanging on a crane if you were living in Iran.
Easy. Just inspect the goals of NIAC. Those goals drives masoudA absolutely insane. The thought of a prosperous Iran would probably cause him a spontaneous combustion! But we shoudl not worry about that. The cause is worth it.
I can't speak for NIAC but they don't need to disclose jack to masoundA and the likes of him. He has asked about NIAC's financial state and affairs over and over as if he doesn't know. How could he not know after at least 15 times of being directed to NIAC's website? What are his true intentions? We know he likes bombing Iran, by now.
Your comment is unrelated to this subject. Maybe you should email me and I will be glad to provide you with ample information on that subject. But I may answer your question that no, I have never even approached a psycholigist or anything in that field - and I am thankful to God for that.
Those whom I wish to follow the conversation - do. Stop spaming - as I said Shoaars and sineh zani has very little value on the internet.
Just one point - If I ever decide to represent Iranian/Americans in any shape or form - especialy at the level Trita is doing - then I would sure as hell MUST provide ALL that is needed to gain trust within the Iranian Community.
Man you seriously have some negative issues with psychology. :o) Did you like have a bad couseling session? What is at the root of all this disgust for psychology?
I really hope that NIAC does not fall into masoudA's trap. I really hope that NIAC never feels the need to prove themselves or open themselves to such unjustified "INVESTIGATION" as if they have committed some kind of crime. I hope NIAC never attends such supposedly "open discussion" on TV or anywhere. masoudA's vicious campaign against NIAC and his utterly baseless accusations are just psychological warfare learned from cheap psychology books. He is even using the old "divide and conqure" strategy to cause some kind of emotional split between Trita and Babak. How shameless can you be? His intentions cannot be decent. And I really hope NIAC simply IGNORES such dangerous cowards.
masoudA's intentions are not to learn or understand or anything in that range. He knows that he doesn't need to prove his case; he just needs to bring up defamatory attacks and give people the impression that NIAC has done something wrong. He is trying to convict NIAC "in the court of public opinion." And NIAC could only help such attacks by responding to them. Please just ignore it. All NIAC needs to do is to communicate with its supporters and continue with their purpose and not get distracted into such petty attempts and cheap shots. Sue them when necessary but never stop your main goal: peace and prosperity for Iran and Iranians (as well as the rest of the world).
If anybody is upset about certain government figures in Iran, consider having masoudA in their place and see what would have happened then! My God!
This cartoons pokes fun of people like MasoudA!!!! Look at the cartoon and read Masoud's comments. He's the "Shahollah" hating the anti-war NIAC folks. This cartoon nails it on the head that wears the crown!!!
Ummm...I'm trying to follow along here, and I've greatly enjoyed the debate going on here, seems very constructive and positive...just a few questions: what the H_LL is MasoudA talking about???? I am soo confused, is he for or against the IRI? Is he for or against NIAC? Is he for or against everyone on this site? or just ANti-Trita? Is he a monarachist or mojahed or what? his points make absolutely no sense to me, or is it just me? what in god's name ( sorry is that not pc?) does one's elementary school or nickname when he was 5yo have to do with the price of eggs? lines in the sand? human rights groups? who exactly are you mr. MasoudA?
Would you be willing to answer the same questions that you want Trita to answer? Would you be willing to post your photo on this web-site, and post a full disclosure bio on yourself? :o)
What personal sacrifices would you be willing to do for Iran and Iranians?
Now, I don't know this Trita person but I just could not resist your comment. :o)
I was texted about this injustice. Please remove my picture asap. This picture has been doctored to show, God forbid, that I am affiliated with this organization. You can publish my camel's picture whenever you want.
mola on the road
I hear you - and I do believe you have good intentions. I know both you and JJ have good intentions - why ? because you both dare to confront the public here. As for Trita Parsi who is obviously NIAC's contact with the IRI - I have zero trust - why ? because he has been hiding - literaly and behind lawsuits. Would he dare to post here or appear on an Iranian TV show ? and I am not talking VOA. Would he dare to answer calls on Pars TV or have an interview with Meybodi ?
Here is a question for you Babak to ask Trita: Give us the name of the elementary school you attended - and the name he used attending that school. see if he would.
You mentioned IRI opposition has noot been successful in the past 30 years, so you wish to try a new approach !!! welll my friend - here is another side of a coin you seem to have missed; You talk as if overturning a regime is an easy task. Due to great and often painful sacrifices and efforts by many Iranians, the whole world has now turned against the mullahs!!! that is a great victory would'nt you say ? Many of us think we have IRI on it's knees - and we do. If you have not felt that - then you need to pay more attention. The line has been drawn - and it's the 30 articles of human rights. If you realy wish to talk and negotiate with the mullahs - that line must be your starting point - nothing less. The problem is Trita says we are not a human rights action group !!!!!!
There is a difference between satire or artistic work and degradation. When you attack something sacred, you are not funny anymore. I think that the goals and activities of NIAC are very serious business for Iranians and nobody should bring it down to a low level of joking and degrading. That's not art or anything valuable. I always attribute such actions as having ulterior motives. I don't even believe that someone could "make a mistake" in this regards. I think it shows certain hidden agenda. We look at Salman Rushdi and we find someone who is at least looking for publicity at the cost of damage to society. I don't think anybody sincerely could respect him or the likes of him - only people with hidden agenda, hatred or fear would quietly applaude such a low life.
Should give it away for those who are confused about the message!
"Warning: They are anti war!"
I believe Saman deserves every inch of the respect he is receiving from the artistic/intellectual community. I am not a fanatic follower who blindly approves all his work. Believe me I sometimes clearly disagree with his personal views and opinions. But what I highly admire him for, is his BIG heart and the courage to express his views boldly without the fear of being despised and outvoted.
I think regardless of what some couch potatos here are saying about the NIAC, they do tremendous work. They are the lone voice representing Iran and Iranians on Capitol Hill. They have sacrificed their time and themselves for the better good of all of us. To call them agents of the IRI is simply a disservice. If you don't want to support them that's fine, but at least don't accuse them of being our enemies because they're not.
To Mr. Talebi and the rest of the NIAC crew I say this, Rock on and don't lower yourselves to the level of the misfits here that consider their own banter prose. The kind of people who wouldn't know sacrifice and hard work and working for the better good even if it came up and slapped them in the face. These are the people who traditionally like to sit kenar-e gowd and say lengesh kon.
very very funny!
Let the truth reveal itself. Editors of this site proclaim their enlightened approach to news and blogging.
Right! Tell me another story. Why is this cartoon here for the last few days but the article about NAIC gone down the list? Why isn't there any serious caricatures about serious political issues in USA and Middle East? Why isn't there a cartoon about the atrocities committed by Israel? We are smarter and wiser than you think dear editors of iranin.com
you have failed as a cartoonist, my friend. Better luck next time.
As a cartoon junkie I find Saman's work hilarious. As a self-appointed political cartoon critic and lover of all forms political satire, my only criticism is that Saman's work would have been much more "satirical" without the 'Agents Islamic Republic of Iran" caption staring you in the face because that phrase just gives away the entire message and cheapens the work in my opinion. The chadors and amaameh were just perfect to convey the message without the redundant shoaar pardaazi. A good political cartoon should give you a hint about the main message and leave it to the viewer to "get it" not to shout it or shove it up the viewer's ass. Other than that, it was funny and I really enjoyed it.
BTW, I commend the NIAC for the work they are doing. Nuffsaid.
Thanks Q. I have written a reply to your comments here: Killing a cartoon
Thanks for clarifying the reason behind the mixed emotions some of us are feeling. I think of myself as someone with an open mind and healthy sense of humor, and this photoshop-job did not strike me as funny. I knew it was meant as a joke but I felt uneasy and disappointed.
Q thanks for explaining why!
Mr Talebi, I am glad you have commented on this page. It's great to know you NIAC folks and read your views and thoughts. I am a very proud NIAC supporter.
friends (and foes),
I must say - reading these comments has been very informative and instructive. As someone in the NIAC office, I can tell you that most of us took this lightly (as a joke) and laughed about it... there were a few who were a bit shocked. Maybe we took it well because JJ sent us the link so we understood it was meant as satire.
Had I come across it at random (and if it did not have those comments) I too would have taken deep offense probably.
To those who have passionately defended us on these boards and elsewhere - all I can say is thank you. even if on one occasion or another there is an over-reaction, I feel it is only a normal response to the vitriolic and ad-hominum attacks by people like MasoudA and Fred (in other posts). In that respect, reading Q's comment really made me think deeply about the issue of bounderies when it comes to satire and comedy.
At the same time, as a relatively easy-going person who is confident and fully committed to NIAC's mission and long-term goals, it will take far more then a cartoon to make me doubt or be offended. I mean - after being called Khamenei's personal agent in the US, how much more can a photo-shoped 'amame' realy do? right?
but over-all - I think this was a (mostly) positive discourse.
oh - and with all due respect to MasoudA - I think you might have to consider your own advice. Look for a plan B because your plan A has lead us to 30 years of isolation as a community with zero tangible result.
Director of Community Relations, NIAC
"Promoting Iranian-American Participation in American Civic Life"