پاينده باد ايران

Mr. sharabe ghermez,

I don't have websites for everything. I have heard of shiites in Southern Lebanon and Iraq studying in Iran and coming back (hassan Nasrallah may have done so) and learning persian in the process. I know from first hand experience that some UAE businessmen have learned some Persian in order to do business with Iran. But here's what else I could find on the web: 

1) List of some adult language schools teaching Persian in UAE.

2) Persian language courses in Kuwait University, Qatar University, American University in Beirut, Tishreen University in Syria, AUC in Cairo.

3) Article on Howala (Persian Speaking Arab tribes) of the Persian gulf.

4) Conference on ME languages and cultures, including Persian and Iran, hosted by American University of Sharjah.

5) Qatar to Honor Omar Khayyam.

6) Council of Dissemination of Persian Language News: includes newly inaugurated Persian language course in Beirut.

since you asked

Mr Q is right when he says, there is a substential size of Iranian pressence south of persian gulf either citizen of those countries whose roots go back to Iran and still speak their own persian dialouges or Iranian natinals investing and doing business over there,My own wife who is from the former group(with a root back to Iran). She speaks fluent farsi so well that no Iranian born would be able to notice otherwise than another iranian girl however her mother tounge is arabic. As a matter of fact every body else in her extented family speak farsi more and less. She is university graduted so just got it very right. There is however something to correct, Ajam is not an insult It simply means a forgnier some body who is not arab like we say "kharejie". just on the record, in kuwait they got some 30-40% with Iranian root of their total population(only nationals)this group of pepole are called ajam-kuwaity the family names like Dashtie, Boshehrie......there was another term used oftenly by Sadaam Majos meaning fire worrshiper, that is what it is been seen as dergatory to persians in the arab world.

My wife calls me Ajamo when she wants to joke with me and i call  her arabac nooo if you happen to be in kuwait dont mind them call you ajami, they acutaly trying to show their affiliation to Iranians.

Mr Q

Mr Q Said :Even so, many Arabs in UAE, Bahrain, Lebanon, and other arab countries who have religious or trade ties with Iranians do learn and speak Persian.

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Please give me more information (book,web page and etc) about this,Thank you .

to the self-obsessed pseudo-mobarez: Arabic is also Iranian

Arabic is a language that is spoken natively by some 5% of Iranians and as a second language for millions more. It is also the language of Islam. We should have respect for it on both grounds.

Ajam is a racist word and I don't condone using it, and no one does in formal exchanges in Arab countries. I will leave it up to Arab intellectuals to correct this phenomenon in their own society. However, most Arabs are not talking specifically about Iranians when they use Ajam/Agam. For the most part, Arabs are not obsessed with confronting, denigrading and talking about Iranians, and promoting their own "superior" culture.

Many Iranians, mostly exiles, on the other hand have a huge racist chip on their shoulder and are continually obsessed about Arabs and Arabic, talking about "backward" and "dirty" arab and parroting western propaganda about Arab culture.

The fact is ours is not the dominant language in the Middle East. There are 170 Million Arabs in the ME, many more speakers in other surrounding Islamic countries and the language actually crosses over into iranian territory.

Even so, many Arabs in UAE, Bahrain, Lebanon, and other arab countries who have religious or trade ties with Iranians do learn and speak Persian.

You keep accusing me of attacking "Persian." That's nonsense. I get involved only against racisma nd chauvunism which unfortunately are common place in this website.

Only someone so insecure as to think that they can advance their own culture only if they diminish, denigrate and insult another would make that comparison.

to pseudo-Iranian Q

I've seen your foot steps here and there. You are always there when it is an opportunity to bash eveything that is related to Persian culture. In my previous comments I explaind to you that the wrod "Tazi" is not a racist word, and the Arabs use the word "Ajam" to address us Iranians. So, my question for you is: Is the word "Ajam" a racist word? If it is the case then you should be very angry about it, but just if you are an true Iranian!!!!!. My next question for you: Why the Arabs do not learn Persian language? Does it have anything to do with the Arab nationalistic ideas? Or they don't like Persian language. Persian is our beautiful language and we do not need to learn a backward language and culture like arabic. Enough with Arabs, Arab religion, culture and language.

don't be so close-minded...

The level of Arabic instruction is much lower than English in Iran. There are many more state funded opportunities to learn and converse in English than Arabic, neither of which comes at any expense of Farsi dispite your weak case for it.

At a time when Americans are learning Spanish and Israelis are learning Arabic as a function of their geographical location, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Iranians learning the language of their region.

I also resent the racist tone and choice of "tazi" in this article. The author should grow up, this is the 21st century.

As for your suggestions, it is the equivilant of taking Latin out of the Catholic church in catholic countries and rituals. What's the big deal? There are much more important cultural causes to spend time on.

another paranoiah on the first page

If you writte aginst arabs and islam , it will surely get published on the first page of iranian.com, go and read what pan-arabs say about Iran and its cerrent regime, actualy their aalies in this struggle aginst Iranian hegemony is monarchists and MKO, what a hypocrasy and bunch of dishonest. with Iranians they are all persianed out bashing every arabs, going to UAE or living in Iraq they are firendly neighbours who is unlike IRI dont want to interferr in their affairs.  

Nice Article

Dear redwine, I agree with all your suggestions but the easiest way is to get rid of the backward Arab religion(Islam), then all these problems well be solved with no hassles.

ok az emrooz har chi "F" to

ok az emrooz har chi "F" to zaban-e ma hast
ba "P" avaz mikonam:
Pas..... Parideh joon, parda ke miyai in ja yadet nareh esme oon porooshgah keh gofteh boodi ra biar o beh Parzin va Parzaneh ham Dorood man ro beresoon!
Padaye to,
Taa Parda
(!)

Prayer

Here's my prayer.

"Parvardgaaraa maa raa az dasteh Irani haayeh beesavaad rahaa'i bakhsheedeh va az andeeshe haayeh pooch va aari az mohtavaa bar hazar daar!"

Sardo Gharm

I have noticed this thing in Iranian.com and generally Shahis and Mojaheds, if you say anything good
about Iran or be against war or hope the economy in Iran does better, you are pro IRI. FYI: Iran got rid Arabs more than 1100 years ago and Its influence in Iraq, infuriates all the Arabs, its religion (until recently) was only officially Iran's. The idiots who bring up the subject first should think about how stupid Iranian Empire was in the end to loose to a ragtag bunch of Arabs, they are glorified to no end but in the end they were a bunch of corrupt incestuous bunch who could not defeat a ragtag Army and the whole
nation was raped. There was no glory. They got what they deserved.

To: Hasan

My Friend:

  Redwine does not personally write these articles; he copies the ones he thinks are interesting or informative, and passes them on to these pages.

 You seem not to be infected with this anti-Arab virus many of us Iranians have been. For whatever reason,just like some men think the more anti-gay they are, they would be perceived more masculine, some think the more anti-Arab they are, it makes them more of an Iranian nationalist.

 Here, however, I did not get the same impression. His enumerated recommandations were good: Celebrating our own heritage and language, without belittling others. I didn't sense an "anger against Islam or Arabs"in this article.He even recommands us sending "Salavaat" in Persian(!). The author seems to be content with Arabic teaching in high school, but in elementary?

 To master Persian, one needs to learn some Arabic ( as kids in my generation did), and that seemed proper, but given the record and the hidden agenda of the current regime, many of us should be alarmed by this kind of measures , as the author is.

Respectfully,

Ali P.

RedWine's problem with reality of human brain

I used to read and enjoy what RedWine wrote, and always appreciate him/her. But here he is showing a completely different character. He finds it difficult for children to learn 4 or more languages, and his anger against Islam or Arabs prevents him of lateral thinking.

I suggest he goes to Holland and finds out that there, children learn more languages than the rest of Europe without any problem. He should understand that human brain has a lot more capacity than what he appreciates and the more you use your brain, the more productive and benefit you get out of your brain. I am sure if he tried this himself, he would find the truth in this fact.

Although I insist Iranian to talk in Parsi and leave out forging words as much as possible when they speak Parsi, I encourage Iranian to learn Arabic as well as other languages. He should remember that Iranians have thought the Arabs how to talk Arabic, and we should maintain and continue this role. Sorry RedWine, but you have failed this time.

Hasan