All stupid religious ideas must be ridiculed

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Multiple Personality Disorder
by Multiple Personality Disorder
06-Jun-2012
 

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In the name of Science the merciful, all stupid religious ideas must be ridiculed to the maximum extent possible. This notion that a man died some 1,100 hundred, or so, years ago, yet somehow he would come alive again, come into the world, and rule the world is the most stupid thing I have heard in my life. Well, I take it back. It’s ONE of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard in my life. There are many others.

From elementary biology, we all know that once a body dies it decomposes into its most basic elements, mostly carbon. The gaseous elements, such as oxygen, nitrogen, and the other gaseous elements soon depart the body and mix with the atmosphere. The other solid elements, such as potassium, calcium, iron, and so on also mix with the soil, or whatever material that the dead body is buried in. So, what remains from the dead body, after a few years, which would remotely resemble anything “alive” might be in some DNA somewhere hidden in a bone fragment, in a strand of hair, or something like that.

But, a DNA is not a person. To make a person from a DNA, the already existing DNA of a reproductive cell must be removed first, and then the DNA of the dead person must replace it, then the cell allowed to grow to fetus, and then the fetus allowed to grow into a little baby boy, and then the baby allowed to go to an Arabic school when he is at school age, and then allowed to study in the finest higher education Islamic centers, wherever that might be, as long as they teach the latest scientific-Islamic curriculum, such as religious-biology, so he would learn how a dead man relives after being dead for so long. He would take different economy classes; free market economy, socialist economy, donkey economy, Voodoo economy, etc. And then he must also learn political-religious science classes, sociology-religious, history-religious, military-religious classes, etc., and do all these things by the age of, let’s say, twenty-five.

And while he was doing all of those easy-for-him classes, he must also become a physically strong man; that means he must exercise every day, lift weight, run, swim, and so on. So, now that he is physically and mentally strong, he must also become politically strong, which means he must start a religious-political carrier, let’s say start as a preaching cleric, conduct a few sermons here and there, go from this city to another and make people cry, and if he got arrested along the way that would not be important at all, because it would prepare him to become a better ruler of the world that he is going to rule over in the future. So, once he got some of that behind him he might do some military duties, become president of an Islamic country, let’s say a country like Iran, and then become its Supreme Leader, let’s say, by the age of forty. And to stay firmly in power, he must kill a few people here and there; kill some of his opponents, kill some journalists, kill a few cheating women, kill a couple of his own assassins, kill a few homosexuals, kill and kill till he is firmly in power. And then, close down a few newspapers, trade unions, writers’ associations, artists’ guilds, human rights centers, imprison a whole bunch of people, and send the rest of the people he doesn’t like to exile. And then, one day when everything is ready; his military is ready, his nuclear technology is ready, his armies of devotees are ready, his submarines are ready, his suicide bombers are ready, his eye-gouging goons are ready, and everything else is ready; one day he must go to a well, let’s say in Jamkaran (as advertized on national television), which would have already had an elevator (a wellevator) concealed in it, he would go to the bottom of that well and push a button and rise up to the surface and declare himself as the one and only Imam Zaman!

Absolutely not! You see how ridiculous this idea is! This notion of resurrection of a dead man is absolutely insulting to our intelligence, that’s why we have to ridicule it to the maximum extent possible.

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Sex with a 9 year old is rape no matter what. At least according to today's laws.

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All the actions are documented by historians so go read them yourself. 

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Why me, MPD

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I am about to lose my sanity!

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my cyber family

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Thank God for IC,

My wait at DMV

does not feel like eternity!

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Stylus can help you type on cell phone with surgical precision. It is like  surgical strike!

 


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6-     What can be considered the source of Islamic teachings? Is it Quran? Muahmmad? Khoemini’s books? Alammeh Majlesi books? How can we determine what’s true and not true about Islam?

 

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After all the genetic manipulations, physical, mental and educational training that you elegantly described here, you forgot the penultimate variable here which is the acceptance by the religious elite.  Remember that these ayatollahs have to give up power for this guy to succeed and they may choose to fill the well with cement rather than let him out to take their place.  Their second choice is to call him mofsed-ol-felarz and hang him. Unless of ourse he comes with a certificate of authenticity, power of attorney and registered either in Najaf consulate or edareye sabt.


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viewed others as either "the people of the book" or "moshrek". The former were second or third rate citizens while the latter either had to become Muslim or die. This is the "great" Islam. 

People are not stupid 2050. All the history is available and I have read much of it. Days of covering up Islam's crimes are gone. Tell me: who raped a 9 year old girl? It was not Jesus or Zartosht or Moses!

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Azarbanoo jaan,  

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Azarbanoo jaan,

 

Thanks azizam. I get excited when I see Iranians like you understand and practice empirical thinking like myself, unlike some people who can’t even spell “empirical thinking”. When someone who knows nothing but insults and thuggish behavior, comes out and says “Islam is vicious but Christianity and Zoroastrianism are not”, ignoring every possible historical and present fact from the great Islamic empire that created generations of scientists from all backgrounds and how Jews and Christians and others lived in peace in it, and ignoring numerous Quranic verses teaching kindness to neighbors and others and forbidding lying and institutionalizing helping the poor and ignoring the fact that many people resort to Islam for peace and tranquility,,,,,,you would know what’s wrong with Iran today.

What’s wrong is not Islam because what the akhoond preach and demonstrate is NOT Islam, its Iranians like our friend here who display extreme forms of bigotry and intolerance. What is the difference between Khomeini and our friend here? Both are intolerant, thug-wanna-bees, vicious, impolite , and close minded. See the problem azizam?


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Re: Great debator

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Sure if you already agree with him. The trick is to be found great by an unbiased observer not by your own side. 


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Iran 2050, Great debate & responses from YOU

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I enjoyed your responses to the commentators who attacked yours.  You are great debator.


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Religions

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

The problem with Islam is that it is always by nature radical and vicious. Zoroastrianism and Christianity are by nature benevolent. It is their misuse that makes them bad. 

Islam on the other hand is nasty if practiced as intended. It was under Mohammad that it started butchery and never stopped it. Other religions for most part were fairly peaceful when their prophets were around but not Islam. 


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Amirparviz, You can

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Amirparviz,

You can argue against, stand up to, refuse and challenge extremism, that’s a duty that all citizens of the world have, however, that’s every different from bashing and insulting. Cause, again, bashing and insulting will radicalize people, and it’s morally wrong in almost all societies. So it’s bad behavior and bad strategy.

IRI is NOT introducing Islam, it’s introducing EXTREMISM. Big difference there.

As far as Shah goes, anyone who after 2500 years (including the 30 years of IRI) of tyrannical monarchy in Iran, still thinks that monarchy is good for Iran lives in a different universe and/or era. I don’t know how much travelling you did in Iran prior to 1979 but when Shah left the country we had massive numbers of illiteracy, massive undeveloped areas ranging from Kurdistan, Baluchistan all the way to Jonnob Tehran, a security service so frightening that even Reza Pahlavi admits committed atrocities, a tyrannical system of government with the one party system (Rastakhiz..to many that’s no different than former USSR) , and the list goes on. As I said before many times, Shah is an angel compared to Khomeini but he is NO ANGEL. Big difference there. I said many times that Shah was one of the best kings we had in terms of human rights in our entire history, but again, in most aspects he was no different than any other tyrant.

P.S: He is also an angel compared to his dad Reza Shah. I put Reza Shah as a less but close evil version of Khomeini!


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C.O.P, The ones who are

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C.O.P,

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