Six Bahá’í leaders in Iran were arrested and taken to the notorious Evin prison yesterday in a sweep that is ominously similar to episodes in the 1980s when scores of Iranian Bahá’í leaders were summarily rounded up and killed.
The six men and women, all members of the national-level group that helped see to the minimum needs of Bahá’ís in Iran, were in their homes Wednesday morning when government intelligence agents entered and spent up to five hours searching each home, before taking them away.
The seventh member of the national coordinating group was arrested in early March in Mashhad after being summoned by the Ministry of Intelligence office there on an ostensibly trivial matter.
“We protest in the strongest terms the arrests of our fellow Bahá'ís in Iran,” said Bani Dugal, the principal representative of the Bahá’í International Community to the United Nations. “Their only crime is their practice of the Bahá’í Faith.”
“Especially disturbing is how this latest sweep recalls the wholesale arrest or abduction of the members of two national Iranian Bahá’í governing councils in the early 1980s -- which led to the disappearance or execution of 17 individuals,” she said.“The early morning raids on the homes of these prominent Bahá’ís were well coordinated, and it is clear they represent a high-level effort to strike again at the Bahá’ís and to intimidate the Iranian Bahá’í community at large,” said Ms. Dugal.
Arrested yesterday were: Mrs. Fariba Kamalabadi, Mr. Jamaloddin Khanjani, Mr. Afif Naeimi, Mr. Saeid Rezaie, Mr. Behrouz Tavakkoli, and Mr. Vahid Tizfahm. All live in Tehran. Mrs. Kamalabadi, Mr. Khanjani, and Mr. Tavakkoli have been previously arrested and then released after periods ranging from five days to four months.
Arrested in Mashhad on 5 March 2008 was Mrs. Mahvash Sabet, who also resides in Tehran. Mrs. Sabet was summoned to Mashhad by the Ministry of Intelligence, ostensibly on the grounds that she was required to answer questions related to the burial of an individual in the Bahá’í cemetery in that city.
On 21 August 1980, all nine members of the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahá’ís of Iran were abducted and disappeared without a trace. It is certain that they were killed.
The National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahá’ís of Iran was reconstituted soon after that but was again ravaged by the execution of eight of its members on 27 December 1981.
In 1983, the government outlawed all formal Bahá’í administrative institutions and the Iranian Bahá’í community responded by disbanding its National Spiritual Assembly, which is an elected governing council, along with some 400 local level elected governing councils. Bahá'ís throughout Iran also suspended nearly all of their regular organizational activity.
The informal national-level coordinating group, known as the Friends, was established with the knowledge of the government to help cope with the diverse needs of Iran’s 300,000-member Bahá’í community, which is the country’s largest religious minority.
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Remove the filters
by Soroush (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 08:54 PM CDTThe fact is that Iranians in general see religion through the Islamic filter. Even the most liberal carry some degree of religious ignorance because they have been raised deep within the Islamic dogma.
The Baha'i Faith is the largest religious minority in Iran. The fact is that the other minorities are recognized and to some degree protected by the so called constitution. The Baha'is are not recognized and are totally unprotected.
Two comments reflect the typical Iranian mindset. The first was the use of the term "Baha'ism". There is no more "Baha'ism" than there is "Islamism" or "Christianism". There is the "Baha'i Faith", Iran's largest religious minority. The two founders were both Iranians, not Arabs, the Bab from Shiraz and Baha'u'llah from the province of Nur. The first 18 disciples of the Bab who were also martyred were all Iranians as were the first 20,000 other martyrs.
Comments by other readers also reflect the Iranian Islamic filter at work. Some negative comments have been that the Baha'i Faith is a "cult", a common description of a minority faith by members of a majority mindset, and that the Baha'i Faith is a false religion in that Islam is the true religion and if it does not recognize Baha'i then Baha'i must be false. This would be akin to the jews circumcribing Christianity as false since it was not recognized by Moses.
In order for Iran to emerge as a truly democratic nation recognizing and protecting the rights of all Iranians, the Iranians need to first recognize the God given rights of all to use the brain with which they are endowed to seek the truth and believe as they see fit. In order for this transformation to take place we all need to remove the filters and view objectively and without prejudice.
No point in a
by VivaIran on Wed May 21, 2008 08:17 PM CDTNo point in a discussion when they keep deleting your posts.
Viva Iran ,I hope the best for you , Thank you!!!
by Tahirih on Wed May 21, 2008 06:03 PM CDTIf it is not for the cold we would not appreciate heat, if it is not for the winter we would not ,enjoy summer,and if it is not for people like you ,we do not learn about hatred and it's bad effect.
May God bring peace to you and all humanity, and lets pray for the speedy release of the 6 inocent Bahais in prison in Iran.
Regards,
Tahirih
RE: Soroosh let's not kid ourselves
by Soroosh (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 06:01 PM CDTMehran jan you are right about Montazeri. However, you still cannot deny that it is a huge deal for an Ayatollah to give such a decree in the present situation on Iran.
I pray for the day when we will have a democratic Iran and ALL people in Iran will have the innate right of freedom. Mehran it will happen!
Thank you Mona Jan...
by Hamid_RN (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 05:20 PM CDTI appreciate you letting us know about the condition of your Bahai brothers and sisters in Iran. It is very sad that this blog has descended into such name-calling chaos as we see in some of the comments below.
There are many people who appreciate your positive blogs. You are also very generous in praising others.
I hope you continue your good work by publishing other blogs. Regarding quoting from your holy books, I believe that it is up to you to decide what to do. However, if you ask me, I personally like to see less of that, and more of your own opinion.
Regarding your friend Tahirih, I believe that it would help your cause much more if she toned down her rheoteric a bit, and be less accusatory and more conciliatory.
Thank you, and please keep up your good work :) - Hamid
Soroosh let's not kid ourselves
by Mehran-001 (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 03:40 PM CDTMontazeri is the same as the others and at the end of the day he is just another Mullah. We need fundamental change and need a democratic government that is secular. That is my belief. screw Montazeri and the rest of the ayatollah's. They won't make any significant change for the betterment of humanity and specially the Iranians.
no need for apology
by Mehran-001 (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 03:21 PM CDTNo need for apology Tahirih Jaane and I do understand what you are going through. The IRI thugs do not stop at Bahais and they have been oppressing Iranian women, free thinkers and you can name it. They are just a bunch of unhappy pigs. We are all very unhappy about what the IRI is doing under the disguise of religion and we all hope that one day they disappear from the face of the earth.
Folks, let stop beating each and go back to the real issue and that is the fact that six innocent Iranians are in detention under false pretenses. This regime has been getting away for too long for too many atrocities and we need to address the real issue and not pick on each other.
If someone doesn't like to read Tahirih's and Mona's post they can just skip it, others feel free to dig some more but let's not stop addressing the real issue and that is the human rights and individual freedom for all Iranian citizens. That is what we need to be talking about.
Lets stay on topic
by Soroosh (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 03:12 PM CDTThe title of this article is "Six Bahá’í leaders arrested in Iran." Let us please let try to stay on topic and not get off track by discussing difference in ideologies that are not necessarily related to the arrest of these "7" individuals.
Thank you
On a brighter side:
I have some semi-good news: A decree was issued earlier this week by Grand Ayatollah Montazeri declaring Iranian Baha'is as rightful citizens.
Translation of the decree:
In the Name of God
With greetings,
The sect of Baha’ism not having the heavenly book like those of Jews, Christians, and Zoaretrians in the constitution [of Islamic republic of Iran], are not considered one of the religious minorities. However, since they are the citizens of this country, they
have the right of citizenship and to live in this country. Furthermore, they must benefit form the Islamic compassion which is stressed in Quran and by the religious authorities.
I hope you will be successful,
(Wal Salam–u Alaykum Warahmatullah)
[Peace and Mercy of God be upon you]
25 Urdibehesht 1387 [14 May 2008]
Signature: Montazeri [Seal]
In view of the current crisis facing the Baha'is of Iran, with the recent arrests of the leaders of this community, this development can be seen to be of great significance.
Dear Mehran, I am sorry that you are disappointed ,but....
by Tahirih on Wed May 21, 2008 02:20 PM CDTYou have not tasted the venom of Hojatiyeh group personally to know how they operate. I am by no means a martyr, but MAR GAZEHED!!!
Of course the issue is the arrest of Innocent Bahais,but are they arguing with Mona and me about that issue??
They use many tactics to win the situation and make " abe gel aloudeh"". Did you read the comments by that innocent bahai lady,below about Hojatiyeh ??
I am not fooled by Ms Golshani /viva Iran /marjan rahmani ....,sima banai... they are all one.
Tahirih
Tahirih you are out of line
by Mehran-001 (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 02:03 PM CDTTahirih, what is wrong? I have never seen this side of you and I must say it is disappointing. A few friends on this website made some suggestions and you accused them of being IRI collaborators and now you are acting like a martyr. Let's just address the real issue and that is the imprisonment of innocent people because of their faith.
What a privilage,to suffer in his path....
by Tahirih on Wed May 21, 2008 01:50 PM CDTgar teegh bared dar koyeh ann mah ,
Gardan nahdeam , alhokm o allah :0)))
What a privilege to be called names for the love of Bahaullah, what joy to be called pathetic by his enemies, what delight to be attacked.When they marytred Qudous, one of early believers ,they dug holes in his flesh and did put burning candles in it , and dragged him through bazar. He was chanting prayers and every time one candle was out he would say ,please put in another one :0))))
So my dear viva Iran nothing that you say can ever harm me or my faith or my sense of right or wrong.
with most bahai greedings to you ,
Tahirih
People, Stop it and allow others to post what they want
by Kababi on Wed May 21, 2008 02:03 PM CDTWhen men have realized that time has upset many fighting faiths, they may come to believe even more than they believe the very foundations of their own conduct, that the ultimate good desired is better reached by free trade in ideas, that the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market, and that truth is the only ground upon which their wishes safely can be carried out. That at any rate is the theory of our Constitution. It is an experiment, as all life is an experiment.- Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes; Abrams v. United States; In dissent; 250 U.S. 616; 630; 1919
If you believe that progress of human civilization depends on individual expression of new ideas, especially unpopular ideas, then the principle of freedom of speech is the most important value society can uphold. The more experience someone has with the Internet the more strongly they generally believe in the importance of freedom of speech, usually because their personal experience has convinced them of the benefits of open expression. The Internet not only provides universal access to free speech, it also promotes the basic concept of freedom of speech. If you believe that there is an inherent value in truth, that human beings on average and over time recognize and value truth, and that truth is best decided in a free marketplace of ideas, then the ability of the Internet to promote freedom of speech is very important indeed.
Dear VivaIran
by Ms Judy Golshani on Wed May 21, 2008 01:05 PM CDTThank you for your kind words in an earlier comment. It is most unfortunate that people such as this lady Tahirih are so 'paranoid' that they can not even see the 'good' that people are trying to offer them.
I believe that the best approach to deal with such people is just to ignore them. The more you engage such people, the more they think that they have something important to say.
I agree with one of the earlier comments that she has a talent to 'alienate' people who have nothing against the Bahais. I better end this comment before she starts saying that I am you, and you are me!
It is funny! Sad but funny :)
What is Internet about
by Blogger (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 01:00 PM CDTW]hen men have realized that time has upset many fighting faiths, they may come to believe even more than they believe the very foundations of their own conduct, that the ultimate good desired is better reached by free trade in ideas, that the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market, and that truth is the only ground upon which their wishes safely can be carried out. That at any rate is the theory of our Constitution. It is an experiment, as all life is an experiment.
- Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes; Abrams v. United States; In dissent; 250 U.S. 616; 630; 1919
If you believe that progress of human civilization depends on individual expression of new ideas, especially unpopular ideas, then the principle of freedom of speech is the most important value society can uphold. The more experience someone has with the Internet the more strongly they generally believe in the importance of freedom of speech, usually because their personal experience has convinced them of the benefits of open expression. The Internet not only provides universal access to free speech, it also promotes the basic concept of freedom of speech. If you believe that there is an inherent value in truth, that human beings on average and over time recognize and value truth, and that truth is best decided in a free marketplace of ideas, then the ability of the Internet to promote freedom of speech is very important indeed.
With all respect,
Blogger ( BZ)
Viva Iran , I have to say that I love what you said to me:0))))
by Tahirih on Wed May 21, 2008 12:51 PM CDTgar teegh bared dar koyeh ann mah ,
Gardan nahdeam , alhokm o allah :0)))
What a privilege to be called names for the love of Bahaullah, what joy to be called pathetic by his enemies, what delight to be attacked.When they marytred Qudous, one of early believers ,they dug holes in his flesh and did put burning candles in it , and dragged him through bazar. He was chanting prayers and every time one candle was out he would say ,please put in another one :0))))
So my dear viva Iran nothing that you say can ever harm me or my faith or my sense of right or wrong.
with most bahai greedings to you ,
Tahirih
This is what Blogging about
by Blogger (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 12:38 PM CDTI am surprise by all of you that asked people to stop talking.
The beauty of internet and Blogs is that you can speak your mind. Another beauty of it, it is the fact you have an option to read what you agree and not agree?
You can not limit the freedom of speech on Internet with saying "Well, I don't like what Mona said or What Baharam Said?"
The beauty is around the fact, these people can speak their mind and go after each other. All of us are outsider and can hear both of them? We can have our own opinions or disagreement? There is nothing wrong with argument?
The beauty of this page, you can hide behind a name and act as a different person or your real name.Who cares?
Mona can put as much as she wants qoute from her holy book. I think, you can stop reading her qoutes.
Or IRI people can put as much as they want about how great is Iran?
To be honest, all of us need to grow up and better understand freedom of expression. If you google for KKK or all this extreme views, you find millions in support of such concept. But you have an option to read them or not.
Don't be like Iranian, Chiness, or Saudi goverments to filter all the interenet. Please allow people to read what they want and filter what they need. We all have our own judgement.
Since everyone has an option to not reading the posting. You should stop feeling sorry for yourself. "Khodkardeh ra Tadbir Nist".
I think, you all have to relax, You feel sorry or happy for Bahai's, you welcome to put your opinions or attack other ideas. This is what freedom about?
The beauty is, you can even slam me for this article. I can even come back and slam myself and create a discussion.
The only person, who can limit us from posting will Mr. JJ... Since this is his web page...
Rest of you, enjoy the freedom and be what you want to be.. Suggestion, attack, use nice words or whatever...
WELCOME TO INTERNET REVOLUTION, THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION TO NEW LEVEL
Tahirih, You are pathetic ...
by VivaIran on Wed May 21, 2008 12:53 PM CDTWow! Look what extreme fanaticism and intense paranoia has done to Sherlock Holmes … sorry I mean Tahirih. Tahirih YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!! We have Muslim, Christian, Hindu, and Atheist idiots everywhere. So I don’t see any reason to be surprised to see a Baha’i IDIOT. May I add a fanatic and brainless one for that matter.
Based on your ridiculous and absurd post, everyone that does not agree with EVERYTHING that you and your Baha’i buddies say are all the same and belong to Hojatiye! No wonder that you guys (if most Baha’is think and act like you) don’t get along with the Iranian government, because both are virtually as fanatic and delusional as one could be.
I have no idea and don’t care (I’m not that paranoid or pathetic to search users tract on this site) whether Marjaneh Rahmani and Ms Judy Golestani are the same people or not. But if you only used TWO of your brain cells (apparently the very few other remaining ones are occupied memorizing what Bahaullah or some other person has said to use it for your lovely Baha’i greetings!!!) and put your prejudice and paranoia aside for one second you would have seen that in my post I was probably equally (if not more) critical of the other faiths including Islam.
Unlike you, I try not to generalize people (although in my limited experiences Baha’is seem to be one of the most dogmatic people when it comes to their faith). I’m still sure there are many decent and thoughtful Baha’is out there. But at least on this site, it appears like the majority of the Baha’is are not interested in a true discussion. When there is real discussion very few participate. But as soon as some idiot religious Muslim makes some nonsense prejudice comment against Baha’is, then everyone jumps in. It’s like the main goals are sympathy and propaganda, rather than a real discussion.
If I were you and truly cared about my faith, considering the small number of Baha’is and limited exposure of people to them (online or real life), I would try much harder on improving the impression that I make. But again, that requires intelligence, brain, character, and tolerance ... things that you don’t have.
And last but not least, using the Baha’i sayings and preachings 24/7 just makes you look like a broken record. A mindless and unimaginative one for that matter that repeats stuff like a parrot. So if you or others continue to do so, Cheshme Kesi Koor Nemishe (except maybe the fanatic Muslims, the Muslim versions of you), we just realize how one-dimensional and pathetic you are. Just get it in your closed mind, your pitty preaching’s have no impact on people that don’t believe in them.
And since we are playing "zarbol masal", there is another one that says: Inghadr Bokon ta Joonet Az .....
Truly Yours,
VivaIran … Oops soryy, Ma’moore Hojatiye, Judy, Marjan, Ghazanfar, and many more!!!
please stop ,dear muslems please stop the hate
by true muslim (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 11:31 AM CDTi can not sit quiet and not say anything,please my muslem friends , all and the one who is attacking bahais in this artecle. please stop this attacking, it will bring negative feeling toward our holy islam.
i am pakistani muslem and tired of muslems in iran abusing other relegions.why we tell tahirih and mona to stop, why we do not ask bahai killers to stop?
zeeshan
No more Arguing please
by Anonymous09 (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 10:51 AM CDTDearest Mona and Tahirih,
May I ask something from both of you, that you put an end to the Arguing? For whatever reason, no one has ever gotten anywhere by keeping on arguing and arguing. We all know that in the Baha'i faith, if two people start to argue and argue, and they cause disunity, then both of them are wrong.
Please let people be, we are all entitled to our opinion, whether Baha'i or otherwise, and it is doubly hard to pass the spirit of faith in these type of discussions. And as other people, (both Baha'i and non-baha'is) have mentioned, we could do more damage to the Baha'i faith than serving in this types of engagements.
My 2 cents
my friend send me this link and I am breaking my silense
by victim of Hojatiyeh (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 09:34 AM CDTI read this article and cryed a lot, i am a victim of this group ,hojatiyeh group. my husband married me and told me he is so much interedste in bahai religion ,but after our mariage he used to hit me everyday and even hit me so much that i lost a child when i was 4 months pregnant. he did not let any family to visit me,he did not even let me to eat somedays, after some years, i have a 2 year old girl he took my girl and throw me out . after that my family find out he is hojatiye and i not seen my girl ever.
please help me to find her.
maryam
All of you listen !
by jimzbund on Wed May 21, 2008 08:50 AM CDTDespite doing the Iranian " taarof" and imitating the American " pleasantries" , deep down you are all suffereing from a culture of "taghleed" and " etteham". you are just spewing what you have heard from others from the day you were born until now without reding some books or finding it for yourselves. The Islam that have been shoved into us is now being clearly disected by brave Iranians and we realize how ignorant we were ( some still are) . As long as this islamic mentality of " Taghieh" , " ketman" and " doroogh masleh amiz" is there , no one in the world will be safe or live in peace, let alone bahais who are another tool in the shameful acts of deception by Mullahs . Until we get rid of the cancer of islam in Iran, it will be business as usual , everyone blaming others for their misery and Shiites waiting for a 6 year old Arab guy to come out of a well to kill everyone and then be killed by a bearded woman. Wake up idiots , wake up.
Jimz bund on a mission to blow the cover of tokhmeh Arabs in Iran
Bund, Jimz Bund
Thank you for your gentle remarks!!!!
by Tahirih on Wed May 21, 2008 08:04 AM CDTJust someone being registered does not mean they are Real!!!!I can open 10 different accounts and use 10 different names!!!Which by the way is the situation here with all of you.
In case someone else is reading this blog let me explain why I am so harsh with Hojjatiyeh group:
These tugs, even go and marry a Bahai girl and then put her under pressure , and abuse her. This has happened many times.Also they have become Bahai's in the past in Iran to infiltrate Bahai community As if there was a reason to do so !!!!!
Dr Hedayati one of martyred assembly members , told his son the the person who is interrogating him is one such person , but since their jail visits were supervised he was not able to finish his sentence to his son!!!
Then dear all female!!! gentle opponents of me do you think when they killed Mona Mahmodnejad and 9 other young females they were gentle!!!!!
www.monasdream.com
go to this site my dear real hamvatanan and see if you do not become upset with these tugs.
With the most loving Bahai greetings for my real hamvatanan,
Tahirih
Leading a double life...
by N. (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 06:08 AM CDTLeading a double life... feeling one thing on the inside and PRETENDING to be something else on the outside must be extremely difficult...
Beautiful quotes are just that 'beautiful quotes'.
If you are able to put beautiful wise quotes into
practice... that is when it counts, otherwise it's just...
I'm going to let it go at that. Others have said it better.
I really do not like fanaticism of ANY KIND.
PS. I am NOT one of the other posters here!
A Word of Advice Tahirih
by Vaghe'an Ke' (not verified) on Wed May 21, 2008 05:20 AM CDTI have read Mona's blog, and I also read the majority of the comments left by different people. I have to say that as someone who is a Muslim, I read the blog with an open mind.
When I was finished reading it, I felt quite sympathetic towards these Bahai leaders. However, after reading the comments, especially those by you, I began wondering whether these people were guilty or not.
What I am trying to tell you is that you are not a good "representative" of your faith. You are crude, Pache' Var Malideh (sorry, but I couldn't put it any other way), and perhaps even Arazel (again, I couldn't put it any other way).
If you really care about your faith, Bahai'ism, just be silent. I am being really serious here. The more you talk, and the more you write, the more you turn people against your faith ... And no, I am neither Judy Golshani, nor Marjan Rahmani, nor Sherlock Holmes, nor Johnny Dollar, nor .... :)
Tahirih
by Marjan Rahmani on Wed May 21, 2008 07:25 AM CDTAfter reading your comment, all I have to say is that with attitudes such as yours, it is not that difficult to see why Bahai people are considered in such low regards in Iran.
Let me tell you about myself: I am a 26 year old Iranian woman, and I live in Boca Raton, Florida. Ms Judy Golshani is a friend of mine. She lives just to the south of us with her wonderful husband Hamid. I believe that she is in her mid to late forties.
About a month ago, a personal friend of ours was being attacked on this website. Jamshid R who is another Iranian who lives in this area wrote the blog that you referred to in his defence. Ms. Golshani alerted me to this blog, and that is why you see my comments there. I generally do not visit this web site.
Last night, I received an e-mail from Ms. Golshani about Mona's blog here. After I read it, I just left a few words in her support. Regarding her quotations from her holy books, I agree with Ms. Golshani and others that they turn people off.
If your attitude is what Bahai'ism is all about, then who on earth wants to become a Bahai. I guess that you and Mona play the Good Cop-Bad Cop routine. Mona says the sweet things, and then you do the hatchet job. Perfect.
Well, I hope you straighten up your act before you make yourself new enemies. I had absolutely nothing against the Bahai's till now. But with your attitude, I can see how people can turn against you.
Wisen up lady. Have a great day!!!!!
Dear Tahirih
by Sima Banai on Wed May 21, 2008 12:18 AM CDTSeveral days ago, when I read this blog by Mona, I felt that I wanted to share with her my thoughts. I wasn't sure whether I should do it in public or in private. After thinking about it, I sent her a personal e-mail.
Mona was kind enough to respond back to me, and I responded back to her again. Tonight, I came to see what other messages were left by other people since my reading of the blog.
I do not know either Ms. Judy Golshani, or Marjan Rahmani. I also do not know VivaIran or N who had left similar comments.
I must say that I was somewhat impressed by the gentle tone of both Ms. Golshani and Marjan. VivaIran and N made similar points, but then again their tone was not quite the same.
What I was totally puzzled was your reaction to their comments. I guess all those wonderful teachings that Bahai people talk about regarding peace and brotherhood/sisterhood does not really apply here. Since these people expressed an opinion which was not to your liking, then you took the liberty to personally attack them.
As I indicated in my e-mail to Mona, I graduated with a degree in English Language many years ago. Do you honestly believe that the writings of Ms. Golshani, Marjan, VivaIran and N are the same? In your comment, you indicate that they were written by the same person. You also disparaged Ms. Golshani's knowledge of Farsi. If you know any American woman who is married to an Iranian man, then you should know that she picks up Persian in bits and pieces, over time.
I went back and looked at their track, and read the blog that you had referenced. So what that they had left comments for the same blog. I have personally received e-mails from friends alerting me to this blog or that. What's the big deal.
I want to share with you one other thing that I wasn't planning to do, but since you brought this whole thing up, I have no choice but to do that. In the response that Mona sent me, she had quoted passages and sayings from Baha'ullah. I responded back to her, and shared with her my thoughts on that. There are a lot of people who really don't apprecaite such teachings and preachings thrown at them all the time.
If you go to my account, you'll see that I just registered so that you wouldn't be dealing with an unregistered user. In the past, all the comments that I left were under unregistered names.
It's truly a sad thing that you of all people, an oppressed minority, are adopting the same technics that you are accusing your oppressors of. I expected a little better behavior from people like you. But perhaps you are no different than anyone else. No better or no worse.
Now, if it makes you feel better, please go ahead and accuse me of being Ms. Golshani, or Marjan, or some other nonsense. Unfortunately, you are your own Worst Enemy. Have a nice day Miss Tahirih ___
Ms Judy Golshani or should I say viva Iran !!!!
by Tahirih on Tue May 20, 2008 11:11 PM CDTYou are having a nice conversation with yourself!!!! going back and forth between your many characters agreeing with yourself!!!
I went to your tract and in your other comment as an American woman !!! you speak our language really well dear!!! just to refresh your memory see what you said:
""As the lady below, Nahid Panahi, indicated, your argument and blog is very clear. Although my Farsi is not as strong as it should be, but since 'PATASHOON ROO AAB OFTADEH', they don't know what else to do. They are resorting to any means to discredit the messenger.""
Very impressive!!! ha!!!
You fake Hojatiyeh agent!! you are a smelly man sitting in front of your computer and pretending to be this female ,not only one but many!!! do you want me to name all your fake characters??Ha!!!Since you know persian read this:
Be koriyeh cheshmeh too Mona edameh mideh!!!!
With most loving Bahai greedings,
Tahirih
*** Oh for readers go to the tract of Marjaneh rahmani and Ms Judy Golestani they both only participated in 2 articles and they are the same ones for both, EEEMMM!!! lets see co incidence??!!!NOT!!!
Shame on you , you smelly small man !!!****
Mona Jan
by Marjan Rahmani on Tue May 20, 2008 03:52 PM CDTAs with others, I would like to offer you my sympathies and condolences regarding the mishap associated with these Bahai leaders in Iran.
I have read most of the comments here, and I would like to say that I tend to agree with both Ms. Golshani and VivaIran.
I personally believe that it would be a good thing if you reduce all these quotations from your Holy Books. To be honest with you, it has a tendency to turn people off.
I do know that Bahais are being persecuted in Iran. However, when your articles are so proseletyzing, as others have noticed that too, it could potentially have a negative impact. It could essentially make people think that you are a Cult, rather than a regular religion.
I hope that these arrested Bahais would find their freedom soon. We will all be praying for their safe release. Best of luck to you and other Bahai's!!
Here is what Ms. Golshani
by N. (not verified) on Tue May 20, 2008 02:39 PM CDTHere is what Ms. Golshani has said:
"A great many of the articles, together with the comments, are 'loaded' with Holy Scriptures from your faith. By that I mean, there are at least one, if not more references to your Holy Scriptures, in almost all the blogs that I have read."
That is 'so' correct and it is exactly what puts me completely off reading your articles most times.
You are Bahai's that's just fine and good for you..... What they are doing to Bahai's and a LOT of other people in Iran is a horror story... but it is, and has been so for ALL of them.
It's the constant teaching, preaching, quoting that becomes bothersome after a while... so I just skip these articles most of the time, even though I care for what happens to ALL Iranians.
Hope all innocents are released soon.
I wanted to thank everyone
by Soroosh (not verified) on Tue May 20, 2008 12:57 PM CDTI wanted to thank everyone for their opinions/comments/suggestions. The thing that makes Iranians so beautiful is that we all have different opinions (it would be quite boring if we didn't). I just want to ask that we keep these innocent people in mind in our comments, and they be the reason for our comments not the difference in our beliefs or ideology.
As a member of the Baha'i faith, it makes me so proud to see so MANY of my fellow Persian brothers and sisters rising up in support of the Iranian Baha'is. I know quite well that Baha'is are not the ONLY persecuted minority in Iran, but no matter what religion or ethnic group we must all support each other. THANK YOU ALL
Just to add the following news organizations/websites have picked up on this story (all of which state that these 6 arrested individuals have not been accused with any crime other than being members of the Baha'i Faith):
1) PR Web Press Release Newswire
2) Amnesty International (HTML) (PDF)
3) Payvand's Iran News
4) CNN International
5) Los Angeles Times
6) Iran Human Rights Documentation Center
7) US Department of State
8) Barnabas Quotidianus
9) Wendi's Wanders
10) Baha'is of Iran
11) Canada.Com "Times Colonist"
12) Canada News Centre
13) Mideast Youth
14) Persian Journal
15) American Jewish Community
16) Prudent Press Agency
17) Worldwide Faith News
18) Conger Blog
19) ABC News
20) Edmonton Journal
21) US Commission International Religious Freedom
22) Religious Intelligence
23) International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran
24) Goliath
25) The Grieboski Report
26) Yahoo News
27) Radio Sedaye Iran
28) All the Beirut News
29) The Muslim Network for Baha'i Rights
30) National Review
31) Dhimmi Watch
32) Richard Dawkins.Net
33) AFP
34) Global Voices Online
35) Reuters
36) BBC
37) CanWest News Service
38) WestEnder (Australia)