MeyBokhor_Manbarbesuzan

shame that

the IRI extensively tried and and tested techniques of violent suppression of peaceful populus is being replicated by other power grabbing tyrannts. 

Similarly it is sad that the iri supporters evidently use tactics like this blog to make  cheap but ultimately empty points. 

I am  not sure what nauseates me more- the violence of these abominable regimes or the cheap shots of their supporters.  

amirkabear4u big mistake

"shah's army was NOT designed to hold up russians " Amirkabear4u

Yes, Iran army was only designed to hold up Russians and communist influence in Iran. That was common knowledge back in 70's. Everybody knew that our shah was pro west and loved Ameria and on the other hand,  he was against Russian and communism. I am shocked that you are not aware of this simple fact. You may ask your father or someone who is older than you, they will explain it for you. I live in that era and all my friends who were in army or air force knew about it.

just ask those people.

amirkabear4u

I have found most people on IC to be opinionated and rigid. You are right there is no point arguing. If you want to find out about Shahs army you do better researching it off IC. I am not going to help. You are right it is pointless.

Regarding Carter the same thing; the facts are out there in public domain. Why ask me about it when you may research it yourself. It is all there and it makes no difference to me what you think.  

VPK

 I do not understand what you mean by your first line.

However shah's army was NOT designed to hold up russians but I am not going to argue with you because it is pointless (his army would NOT stand a chance against russians).

It is a general misunderstanding to balme Carter.

Tiger Lily,

A 'song' is worth a thousand words.

Hypnotic, my impression after listening Najafi's music video.

iraj khan, :))!!! .:) mA mooshom goosfandia nia ;) dAram bezanad

اخ که چقدر خر تو خره...

اخ که چقدر خر تو خره... دادا تو هم ول کن دنیا که کربلا هستش

//iranian.com/main/video/2011/nov/bega-me...

Tiger Lily,

You're welcome. I just had to take a stand against Cyber Bullies and their cheer leaders on IC. I usually read the blogs by independent thinking bloggers. I read yours about Jahan Khalili and agree with it.

I find your comments interesting and thought provoking hence, worthy of spending time on.

ajab, ajab, agar mokh dashtam shaakh dar miarvord

Whilst the rest of the sane world including analysts in the know, are in a state of anxiety over the enormous influence of Islamist influence and their possible pact with the military in Egypt, from Al Qaeda "freedom fighters in Libya to proxy wars allegedly financed by the IRI in Syria,  the plebs on IC can't help their prejudiced butts typing.

Shokh shaakh, shalam al shalamo aleikom!

Pooch mokht andar mokht

BuTT hey, don't forget to tear my armpits apart, limb by limb, hey it's fighting for freedom, ey, right?

Tabrik!

iraj khan jan

Thank you for your heartfelt gentlemanly behaviour,

just don't let yourself get into a virtual duel  of nothing but provocation, to loose this account of yours. None of it nor any of it or anyone is worth it. :)

Happy Christmas lights to you.

amirkabear4u

What you think as corrections are mistakes to me. I got it right. 

• Shah's army was designed to hold off the Soviets. He did not have anything in mind that USA did not want. And the army was very much under American power. Why do you think they just switched sides when ordered by Carter.
• Shah"having to go" was because Carter was an idealist idiot. His advisers were as naive as him. That is why Carter was replaced after one term. And brought down in the most shameful way.
• Saddles have not changed; the whole approach did. If you honestly think IRI is like Pahlavi in any way you are mistaken.

Over and done we are not going to agree; see you in Tehran once IRI goes.

meybokhor, talking about

"a picture is worth a thousand words"

The following picture is

what's wrong with 'West-sponsered democracies':

"A string of explosions ripped through the Iraqi capital on Thursday, killing at least 60 people and injuring nearly 200 just days after the last U.S. troops left the country, police and health officials said."

//news.yahoo.com/photos/wave-of-bombings-hit-baghdad-1324566733-slideshow/

a few corrections VPK

Politics is like a wild animal and it is very difficult with such complex human society to explain things in a few lines.

When I mentioned travelling by Europeans I mean going other places. For example British need visa for Australia and they could go and stay in USA as long as they wanted. But they can only stay in USA for 3 month. I can not remember British had a revolution or anything like that. This only means the world we live in has changed. NOW what is your evidence if shah was in Iran we could go and visit any country we wanted. Major governments know majority of Iranians do not agree with IRI. This visa issue is not for us it is a lot of bandit nations.

Beside your family who can not go swimming together BUT there are a lot of activities going on in Iran which includes both sexes together.

VPK, ONLY THE SADDLE IS CHANGED, this is why there are similarities in restritions.

I am not going to argue with you in regard to shah's army. He was planning something and that is why he had TO GO. But your opinion is yours and this is what I believe in.

Fairness and Equality in Justice

amirkabear4u

yes I agree we may not have religious freedom BUT people are doing what they want because this government is not able to stop them, 

No they are not because they get servery punished if they do. I used to go swimming with my mother and father in the Caspian. What happens if I tried it now with my mother wearing a normal woman's swim suit and loose hair. What if I went for a walk with a woman? You know well that people do not get to do what they want.

WHY WAS SHAH BUILDING UP THE ARMY, 

That is why there was peace! Nobody particularly Saddam dared attack Iran. Shah was wise to keep a big army and it was his buildup that saved Iran in 1980 - 1988.

Europeans have to get visa to travel and this applies to many other nations. 

No, the opposite. They get to go anywhere in EU without a passport. I was in Europe and drove all over the place without a single border check. Iranians get treated like *** because of IRI and you know it.

VPK

Sorry I could not respond to you sooner as I was very bussy.

You mentioned;

social freedom BUT that was not for everyone,

this IRI is not following sharria law as yet,

yes I agree we may not have religious freedom BUT people are doing what they want because this government is not able to stop them, 

Peace and no threat of attack. WHY WAS SHAH BUILDING UP THE ARMY, it is clear he was planning something. Unfortunately not many people see it. He was not buying so many arms to stop muslems taking over him. So it was only a matter of time for him to break his peace.

Much better economy

Economy for some peaople was better BUT not for others.

Much easier to travel internationally

Two points here. Firstly the world has changed a lot, even Europeans have to get visa to travel and this applies to many other nations. Therefore this comment of yours is short sighted. Second point did this travelling applied to everyone? No

Respect for our culture and history

These days even Americans do not have respect. BUT IF YOU KNEW FARAH'S PRIVATE LIFE YOU WOULD AGREE with her as our queen and mother of Iran we did not have as much respect as you think we had. In any case a lot of westerners do not even apply respect to themselves. I always hear this respect issue but even then they were laughing at us BUT not as much as they are now.

Yes VPK some of these points matter to all of us.

Finally, if you studies the present government and society like JK asks us to do then you would agree Iran is continuely being abused. In other words the master is the same.

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Still saying it's the Islamists?

Egypt general: Protesters deserve to be thrown into Hitler’s ovens

Moneim Kato refers to Egyptians who clashed with security forces near cabinet building as 'street bullies.'

A retired Egyptian general who advises the ruling Military Council's Morale Affairs Department told a local newspaper that protesters fighting with soldiers “deserved to be thrown into Hitler's ovens.”

molla/ iraj

what has Bullying have got to do with Being or not being a democrat/ democratic.???

Mola Nasreddin, why did you change your name to iraj khan?

And why are you always speaking lies? Why?

Here is another example

of a Cyber Bully on IC,

This one goes with the name of amir1973 like a defective CD repeating the same line. 

"IRI Groupies, IRI Groupies, IRI Groupies, etc..."

Many people have complained about him (I remember VPK even wrote a blog about this person's undemocratic bullying comments).

What is his viewpoint? He advocates bombing Iran, representing the 3% who are pushing for a war with Iran.

bavafa jan

Oh god, Not again, Here we go with this "not factual" buisness. 

Yet again, You have jumped into conclusion. NO, Like it has been said a million times, I did not make that condemnation and i did not make such a statement.

There are those who criticize Israel at every turn, but they do not do the same when it comes to IRI. Could they be Supporting it? Gee. I don't know. Is there a possibility that they might not like them that much? That to me at least, remain a possibility. Case in Point: THE REFORMERSSS (no , not a british band in the 60's... You know)

You may be right. But the particular individuals who were the target of my comments in that specific blog, written by that specific blogger, sure as hell did not demonstrate any signs to confirm your assertion.

IRI Groupies are the Number One defenders of women's rights

Starting with our old friend, Mola Nasreddin, who has been reincarnated as "iraj khan". Just sayin'.

Dr. Mohandes: You ought to know well …

That you are NOT being factual in your last statement here.  I don’t know if it is the air in Iran or kamala hamnishini that is the cause of using rhetoric in place of facts. 

“I mean after all, they are busy going full speed, firing on all cylinders criticizing Israel!!! for various issues, BUt god forbid Someone dares to complain about iran and matters related to iran, Aghayoon will start to scream blue murder”

  Your statement and (conspicuously)  to generalize all those who are critical of State of Israel and its apartheid policeis therefore they are IRI supporters is disingenuous and divisive at best. 

Mosht for Mosht, pound for pound, many of those (not all but many) who have been critical of State of Israel have also been very critical and condemning of the murderous and criminal policies of IRI.   Likewise the act of rhetoric and character assassination has been far stronger on the far right than those perceived or actual IRI supporters.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

Cyber Bullies

and their cheerleaders on IC

Read this comment by Dr Mohandes to Tiger Lily and decide for yourself, he writes: 

'You should probably ask the guy who sold you the things...the two for the price one dealio..,LOL (oops. sorry) see if he or she knows anyone who might be right for you.'

The above comment is what's called sexual Harassment. The IC's admin must pay attention because legal actions could be taken against Cyber Bullies and a website that publish it.

Is there any difference between these cyber bullies and the soldiers who are dragging the poor woman's body on the street? 

I'm just saying,

Iraj

Dr. Mohandes

You speak the truth, my friend. Regards.

AMir1973

Dude. Quit wasting time trying to put sense into them. You know you would be in for something that has proven futile.

I mean after all, they are busy going full speed, firing on all cylinders criticizing Israel!!! for various issues, BUt god forbid Someone dares to complain about iran and matters related to iran, Aghayoon will start to scream blue murder.

I wonder who signs the paychecks for these fellas...I don't know about you , but lately i have seen signs that D. trump might be behind this.

Re: Muslim brotherhood attempted to assassinate Nasser

Well as they say even a broken clock gets it right twice a day :-) I do not advocate assassination. But Nasser was a disaster for his nation. He overthrew the Monarchy in Egypt and started a long decline for that nation.

He disregarded the ancient Egyptian identity and made them "Arab". His great achievement was the loss of Sinai to Israel. In his stupidity Nasser Picked a fight with Iran by misnaming the Persian Gulf. The man was a disaster in all ways.

La Tigre el Lili

OK. I see what the problemis now:))

Lonliness is getting on your last nerve and you are here to score! hmm.. a nice, and "sexy" man with the requisite smarts.

No. Sug. Not here. Veee only deeskus pooleeteeks on dees syte:)))))

You should probably ask the guy who sold you the things...the two for the price one dealio..,LOL (oops. sorry) see if he or she knows anyone who might be right for you.

I hope you guys will hit it off....

LOveeeee.. 

Muslim brotherhood attempted to assassinate Nasser

"Egyptian Police and Army are Islamists? " maybokhor.... 

It is common knowledge in Egypt that muslim brotherhood party tried to assassinate Jamal abdul Nasser. That is one reason they can't have legitimate vote from majority people in Egypt.

Muslim brotherhood also linked to the assassination of former president Saddat.  The attackers included four enlisted men, an army major and a lieutenant. The major and two enlisted men were killed in the swarm around the reviewing stand, once other members of the military realized what was taking place. The rest were arrested. The attackers would eventually come to be identified as Islamist nationalists associated with the Muslim Brotherhood under the name of Islamic Jihad.

It gets worse. The Brotherhood offshoot became linked to Al-Qaeda in 1990's.The group was subsequently found to have hatched the assassination plot with Al Gamaa al-Islamiyya, a Brotherhood offshoot that would , in the mid-1990s, develop ties with al-Qaeda and be chiefly responsible for the 1997 terrorist attack in Luxor on Nov. 17, 1997, when six men dressed in black attacked tourists visiting the famous site in Upper Egypt. Sixty-two men, women and children were killed. Among the group’s leaders: Ayman al-Zawahiri, subsequently al-Qaeda’s Number 2. Zawahiri was tried and imprisoned for three years for his role ion the plot, then expelled from Egypt.

At the end, I have to say these soldiers are Arabs, not Europeans. They are also Sunni muslim, not christian. So what any Persian can expect?   Persians felt brutality of Arabs when they invaded in Iran under Saddam in 1980. Arab soldiers raped many Iranian women right in the front of their husbands eyes. They raped even 7 year old Iranian girl. 7 year old girl was pregnant by Arab soldier. That is common knowledge among Iranians. Persians also felt their brutality in Iran's ancient time when Khalid ibn Walid attacked Persia. 

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Ajab savadi!

I mean if you hadn't learn (been taught) this "West-residing IRI Groupie" phrase from somewhere, you'd probabely end up in a school for the challenged going ugh-ugh-ugh-ugh.

Dadash, do you see the irony of an illiterate who misspells numerous words attacking others for a supposed lack of schooling?