Apology: Military ads

Jahanshah Javid
by Jahanshah Javid
26-Dec-2010
 

A while back I made a public commitment here not to run military-related ads on iranian.com.

A couple of days ago I saw ads from the U.S. military to recruit Persian speakers and translators. I initially thought they were coming from google. Anyone can go to google AdSense and pay for their ad to show up on sites like iranian.com. We can block the ones we don't approve and have no commitment to run them. And we have done so in the past with CIA recruitment ads, Israeli military ads, pornography, certain Islamic sites...

The latest ads are different. They have already paid us directly. I had forgotten to mention to our advertising manager to refuse these sorts of ads. When I learned about the U.S. military ad, I asked that they be removed and refunded.

However, iranian.com is going through a major reorganization and we are unable to make a refund. The ads will be back up until mid-January as scheduled.

iranian.com's current investors are selling their shares and from next month I will be working with new partners. The deal has been in the works for several months. I will give you more details soon.

I apologize for this mistake. I will continue to do my best to keep iranian.com free of military-related ads.

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I toured Soviet republics in the mid-70s. Did you? If you didn't, who are you to judge?

Our family has been to Iran recently for a period of several months. It wasn't in any way a bad experience.

Me? I'm an American of Iranian descent. I can't fathom the type of loser that would abandon and bash the place of their origin. But hey, folks like you have made me see such ugly things are indeed possible.


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pirouz you missed the point all together again...

by Khar on

read my comment once more:

I got a proposition for you pirouz, I'll buy you a one way ticket to your utopian land of Islam. In return, you've to promise to live in Iran for one year, after one year let see if you have the same ideals about IRI and the land of Islamic Republic. I bet you in a month you only not back to states kissing the grounds but you will join the rest of us Iranian-American escapees and as you call us "Iran-Haters" (IRI-Haters),  

Back in the Soviet and cold war era there were young idiots like you today (don’t take it personally please) that thought behind the Iron-curtain there is a Proletariat utopian paradise, and west is trying to destroy it and they wanted to bring that utopia home. I don’t have to tell you what happen to that Bull-Shit and what that shit was all about, do I?


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MK, Demonizing the ones who don't agree with you does not work

by Mola Nasredeen on

here anymore.

The question is: what are you bringing to the table?

Demonizing?

Name calling?

Screaming?

Grand standing?

Well Iranian people don't need it from you and the ones who are like you, sitting in your comfortable home in the West, getting your paycheck on time in a safe environment and ordering others inside Iran to overthrow the regime.

They tell you: Zereshk! 

Well, Iranians are smarter than what you think. Meanwhile you are condemned to sit at home in front of your computer and be of no use to the Reform Movement.  


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"IRGC-Basij Cyber Army Employees on This Site"

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

Masoud! What are you talking about? Do you want to get blocked? Are you suggesting to us that these kind folks representing all walks of life and genders of Iranian society, nicely settled behind their keyboards in "arrogant west", some not even able to speak farsi,  yet screaming their big mouths off for Ahmadinezhad, khamenei, the islamist regime and every shia terrorist group around the world are actually paid agents of the islamist regime? 

But you know you might be right! If it was not for the fact I visit Iran once a year, reading the pages of this site, I'd end up believeing that 90% of Iranian population are solid supporters of the islamist regime, hezbullah and hamas, yet happily reside in the Kafir west, so far away from their islamist heaven!

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


divaneh

Too late JJ

by divaneh on

Sorry, too late. Some people have applied already.


Sargord Pirouz

JJ

by Sargord Pirouz on

Well, the same could be said of the military ads: don't read them!

But they're there, as are the pro-war against Iran blogs. And these pro-war blogs are always picked for the featured blogs list on the main page.

I conclude this is the result of what happens when an internet site operator lacking the most basic skills of a publisher goes about attempting to operate as that of a would-be publisher. The results are usually less than competent, as in the case of this inconsistently applied policy of sorts.


Jahanshah Javid

Thanks

by Jahanshah Javid on

Thanks for your comments and suggestions.

The ads in question are set for viewing in the US. You won't see them in other countries.

There's no need to explain business matters such as advertising. But I made a public pledge early on not to accept these sorts of ads. So I had to tell readers what happened.

To those who say some blogs are worse than US military ads... Don't read them! Or offer your opposing view.


Sargord Pirouz

My nephew was enrolled in

by Sargord Pirouz on

My nephew was enrolled in the US Military translator school, as a US Marine. It's arguably the best foreign language instruction in the world. His first choice was Dari-Persian, but he was placed into Arabic language instruction based on the needs of the military at that time.

I don't have a problem with US military ads such as this one. But I do take exception to Zionist pro-war against Iran ads that JJ ran without such an apology roughly 3 months ago. 

His inconsistent and contradictory applications of policy fail to impress. But I guess this is to be expected from a self-declared seditionist. 


Masoud Kazemzadeh

The Fight Between Democrats and Fundamentalists

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on

Mollah,

You can repeat the SAME nonsense 10 times, it does NOT make it true. The Shah WON in 1953, but he LOST in 1979. Khomeini and his fascist fundamentalist terrorist won in 1979. You are under the false impression that there will be no more change in Iran. You are WRONG.

There is a STRUGGLE between the ruling fascists fundamentalist terrorist regime and the people of Iran who oppose the system. YOU (and Iran Military Forum, No Fear, Kharmagas, and other IRGC-Basij Cyber Army posters) are here to prolong the ruling dictatorship (just like the SAVAKis were present in the struggle to prolong the rule of the Shah). And I and other opposition posters and activists are here and elsewhere opposing the terrorist regime.

It is YOUR job to attack us. It is OUR duty to fight against you. You and your fellow fascist fundamentalist can jump up and down and INSULT me and other opposition members. It is YOUR job to do this. And I use logic and argument. If we are successful, we will overthrow the fundamentalist terrorist regime. I hope we will succeed. Future will tell. One thing I CAN PROMISE you: I and millions of other pro-democracy Iranians will fight against you and your fellow terrorists.

:-)

MK


G. Rahmanian

Thanks Yolanda!

by G. Rahmanian on

To tell you the truth, I don't pay much attention to the ads.


yolanda

...

by yolanda on

Hi! G. Rahmanian,

    The ad is running right now......please go to IC's 1st page or just this page.....Did you see the moving image with American soldiers, a child, and a bearded man......that is the military ad!


Anahid Hojjati

Thanks Mr. Rahmanian, I don't know how Americans go about

by Anahid Hojjati on

Teaching other languages. But your point is correct that memorization is not a good method. I have not seen the complete ad either, I just see sentences of it like "seda had va marzee nemeeshenassad".


Mola Nasredeen

MK,

by Mola Nasredeen on

Don't forget:

You lost, they won.

No amount of name calling or demonizing others is going to change this fact: You lost and will lose again and again, why?

Because you're condemned to lose due to your uncontrollable anger. It blinds you, it disables you. 

Because you open your mouth while closing your mind.

Because your understanding of Iran, Iranians and the geopolitics of the Middle East is very basic and emotional.

Because you're a sore loser who doesn't want to find out why he lost.

Iranian Reform Movement needs level headed leaders and activists and unfortunately you lack this qualification.


G. Rahmanian

Dear Ms. Hojjati:

by G. Rahmanian on

Sorry for the typo. Exactly. It's nice to learn that US military is interested in knowing the language, but let's not forget the culture. After almost four decades in China, American businesses are still suffering from the lack of personnel proficient in the Chinese language and culture. It used be like they need us, we don't need them idea. One big problem was, however, the way language education was handled as a result of unscientific and commercialized approaches to language learning due to insufficient or inappropriate linguistic theories.One such approach was Behavioristic Approach which encouraged rote memorization of language structures through constant drilling without paying due attention to the cultural aspects of the language. Anyhow, I hope they'll find the right people!P.S. I haven't seen the ad, yet.


Sargord Pirouz

Khar

by Sargord Pirouz on

My American grandfather is still living at 102 years of age. My American mom spoke to him over the phone earlier today. So no, he isn't rolling in his grave!

Would I be speaking German had the US not gone to war in '17 or '41? Debatable. Personally, I don't think so. The US and USSR did not engage in direct conflict, and how many of us are speaking Russian? lol

The majority in Iran are not advocating Iran declare war on the US. Far from it. Neither are Iran's leaders. So your comment makes no sense. 


Anahid Hojjati

Dear Rahmanian, also the ad is for translators

by Anahid Hojjati on

Dear Rahmanian, I think you have a typo in your comment addressed to me, you meant to write does not owe but you are missing the "not". Also this ad is for translators. I happen to think if US army (or any army for that matter) is going to be somewhere, it is better if they know the language of people.


Khar

pirouz

by Khar on

If your grandma and grandpa on your American side did say the same thing you are saying today to; "let the majority in Germany go about doing their things their way as they see fit" you would be speaking German today buddy, Achtung?!! and they are rolling in their graves thinking what their little piruz is saying and doing! By the way every time their is a large turnout at the elections it’s an indication that opposition party is to win and Mousavi did! Unless if you are refering to an election like of Saddam by 99.9% of the votes, based on which your hero AN fudged his victory.

I got a proposition for you pirouz, I'll buy you a one way ticket to your utopian land of Islam. In return, you've to promise to live in Iran for one year, after one year let see if you have the same ideals about IRI and the land of Islamic Republic. I bet you in a month you only not back to states kissing the grounds but you will join the rest of us Iranian-American escapees and as you call us "Iran-Haters" (IRI-Haters),  

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Sargord Pirouz

Massoud

by Sargord Pirouz on

Your logic reads like that of a kid in a schoolyard that isn't getting his own way.

Here's a humorous take on what you purport:

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Sargord Pirouz

Hoshang

by Sargord Pirouz on

Shoving? This administration was voted into office by a 60% majority.

You're not part of that majority. You're not even a member of the electorate. So you're about as relevant to Iran's politics as you are Nigeria's.

Advocate for your adopted settings, and leave Iran's politics to those that live there or bother to vote. That's my advice. 


Masoud Kazemzadeh

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Mollah: The question is what are you going to bring to the table? A bunch of name calling and 'AR AR Kardan'?

MK: (1) Counter the propaganda of IRGC-Basij Cyber Army; (2) Counter the psychological ops by the Ministry of Intelligence; (3) fight against the agents of the IRGC, Basij and Ministry of Intelligence on this site; (4) offer to the readers the option of a secular democratic republic; (5) undermine the activities of the pro-regime elements in promoting the appeasement of the fundamentalist terrorist regime around the world.

Mollah: Look, who is protecting Iran's borders? Not you, yor're too confused to even run your own lives.

MK: Iran’s borders are usually protected by the artesh and border guards today as they were before the rise of the fascist fundamentalist terrorist regime. Those who protect Iran’s border today as before the rise of the terrorist regime are doing a service to Iran.The IRGC TERRORISTS and the Basij TERRORISTS and the Ministry of Intelligence TERRORISTS responsible for the imprisonment, torture, rape of male and female Iranians are CONDEMNED by all decent Iranians. We condemn these terrorist torturers and rapists and their supporters on this site (e.g. Mollah, Iran Military Forum, Kharmagas, No Fear, etc).

Mollah: Who is feeding the population? Not you.

MK: The TERRORIST regime is STEALING the wealth of the Iranian PEOPLE. The corrupt fascist rulers are responsible for the economic disaster in Iran. What the terrorist regime is doing is like putting the people in prison, torture them, rape them, and then say: “hey be grateful, I am feeding you too.” Shame on the fundamentalist terrorist regime torturers and rapists and murderers, and its supporters on this site.

Mollah: Who is protecting the border and chasing terrorists away? Not you.

MK: Helooooooo. The TERRORIST have taken over the country. Duuuuuuuuuh. The TERRORISTS are chasing the pro-democracy Iranian people, and imprisoning them, torturing them, executing them, and raping them. Shame on the TERRORISTS and their supporters on this site.

Mollah: You are here to 'JERR' yourself with no end.

MK: Poor baby. You have no logic, and keep crying.

Mollah: You're pissed off because you lost again. Like a fool you thought the Iranian regime would be overthrown but they did not, for better or for worse.

MK: Jojeh ha ro akhar paiz mishmorand. What you are saying is exactly what the Shah used to say. Your days are numbered. Sooner or later, we will overthrow your fascist terrorist regime and establish a secular democratic republic.

Mollah: You were wrong again because your brains are too small and hence your understanding of Iran, Iranians, Shia Islam and geopolitics of the Middle East is pathetic. No amount of name calling and 'Demonizing' your opponents is going to change the fact that you all are mediocre observers of Iranian politics. You'll never get it, you're condemned to not ever getting it.

MK: Do YOU realize that YOU do the name calling and demonizing the democratic opposition in order to help the fascist fundamentalist terrorist regime??????

sorry for the spacing on this post, the cut-and-paste of the Word made it all jumbled up.


G. Rahmanian

Dear Ms. Hojjati:

by G. Rahmanian on

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Hoshang Targol

Mola: The demons are the ones shoving poverty down the throats

by Hoshang Targol on

of 73 million people in Iran. And you're actually obtuse enough to think you can get away with it. Your pathetic pedestrain propaganda and appaling language in support of mullahs only points to your disfunctional career, and low level of education, not to mention intelligence and integrity.

 

When and if you get your head our of your fundament ( yeah look it up, it has a few meanings!) you might realize that fascists in Iran are doomed to irrelevance, just like your daily AR AR & the rest in here.

See what you did: again, you brought my discourse low and down to your level, hope you're happy now. Shame on you. Then again a mullahs' testicles shiner has no notion of shame.


Shazde Asdola Mirza

Mola: you don't even believe in IRI - so why do you defend it?

by Shazde Asdola Mirza on

It is clear from the history of your comments that you are not a devote 12th Imam Shiite and you don't believe in IRI ... so why are you defending it?

Are you so scared of the big bad Western wolf that any deep political change in Iran is scaring you to death? Then take it up with IRI. They are the ones who openly want war and desire "death to" the West. They are the ones who have brought death and misery to the Iranian people.

Hey, if I openly follow a policy of "death to you", shouldn't I expect you to pursue a path to neutralize and even eliminate me? Same logic has done it to Iraq and Afghanistan. THEIR terrorist leaders (Saddam and Taliban) chose to bring death and destruction to THEIR own people.

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Mola Nasredeen

'Demonizing' does not work on this website anymore

by Mola Nasredeen on

Emotionalism is not going to work either.

The question is what are you going to bring to the table? A bunch of name calling and 'AR AR Kardan'?

Look, who is protecting Iran's borders? Not you, you're too confused to even run your own lives.

Who is feeding the population? Not you.

Who is protecting the border and chasing terrorists away? Not you.

You are here to 'JERR' yourself with no end.

You're pissed off because you lost again. Like a fool you thought the Iranian regime would be overthrown but they did not, for better or for worse.

You were wrong again because your brains are too small and hence your understanding of Iran, Iranians, Shia Islam and geopolitics of the Middle East is pathetic. 

No amount of name calling and 'Demonizing' your opponents is going to change the fact that you all are mediocre observers of Iranian politics. You'll never get it, you'll never win, you're condemned to not ever winning.


Sargord Pirouz

Well Shazde,

by Sargord Pirouz on

Look, you couldn't accept the 98.2% in-favor resolution in '79. You were not one of the 85% that voted in the 2009 election.

All you do is bash and complain in fits of emotional temper tantrums, from far away in your adopted setting.

It just doesn't make any sense.

You left. Face up to it. Your relevance is now your adopted surroundings. The place where you came from should no longer concern you. If you were concerned, you'd have had the fortitude to remain. You didn't. So stop deluding yourself, and let the will of the majority inside Iran go about their way as they see fit. 


Shazde Asdola Mirza

"it's none of your business"

by Shazde Asdola Mirza on

Who are you to tell us what is our business and what is not? This is not IRI where retarded goons like you can dictate over people and say what is their business and what is not! Iranian exiles have full rights to discuss their points of view and Nasty Operators like you cannot stop us.

Actually, we not only have the right to oppose IRI, but the responsibility to do it, because the suffocated people inside Iran don't have a free voice.

As for only one viable candidate ... all the candidates in IRI are appointed by ONE man, i.e. Velayate Faghih, the absolute supreme leader, so any appearance of plurality is vane and meaningless. Now, go use you little brain to figure out how in such a closed system, the shamble of 2009 "election" can happen. The bells are tolling for your beloved IRI ... seek other employment!

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Sargord Pirouz

Yeah, but in NK there was only one viable candidate

by Sargord Pirouz on

And the IRI referendum vote in the 70s was on the up-and-up. No one credible seriously disputes this. And in the case of Germany, after the political ascension of the NSDAP, elections were suspended.

In IRI, you have four viable presidential candidates, where in the US you are pretty much limited to only 2.

I'm not saying I favor the IRI model over the US one for the US. But then it's equally absurd to favor the US model over the IRI one for Iran.

Let it be, is my advice. Content yourself with what's going on in your adopted surroundings, if you've bothered to become citizens. And let the Iranian majority inside Iran go about their ways  as they see fit. If you're so inclined and possess a current National ID, vote. If not, really it's none of your business.


AMIR1973

Kim Jong Il got 99.9% of the vote

by AMIR1973 on

 

And turnout was 99.98%:

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Hoshang Targol

Mola who died and made you the spokesperson for Iranians

by Hoshang Targol on

not to mention  your other fake names and avatars.

And when did you ask 73 million Iranians how they feel about the most fascistic economic program being shoved down their throats?

Have you asked political prisoners about the daily tortures they go through?

Have you asked 40,000,000 million Iranians living below poverty line about their economic security?

Have you asked hundreds of thousands of workers with their wages STILL unpaid how they feel about continuation of IR's rule?

 

And how in the world is it that  while IR is the one who has decidedly and forcefully SMASHED EVERY SINGLE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEACEFUL REFORM IN IRAN, you and all your most pathetic hezbollah friends, never ever blame mullahs for pushing the country to the verge of destruction, but it's all MK's fault, because unlike you he doesn't shine mullahs

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testicles

but ( like me ) wants to crush them? metaphorically of course!

Khejalat bekesh and learn from your shotor: keep silence as much as you can. They don't pay you that much anyways, right?


Shazde Asdola Mirza

SP: higher percentages "voted" for Saddam and Hitler

by Shazde Asdola Mirza on

Fascism is a state of governance where most aspects of people's lives are dictated by the regime. That fully applies to IRI. Votes are meaningless, if there is no freedom of expression, of political organization and simply of being able to stand for an election. The whole "election" system of IRI is just a Fascist method of selection, through the Velayat Faghih absolute rule and vetting process.

VF brings us to the second point, i.e. fundamentalism. IRI is a F type of regime, because it has bound itself to the fundamental concepts of a deranged cult (12th Imam Shiite). This cult's edicts are treated as the word of god by IRI and forcibly executed and pursued by the regime.

You are a very nasty operator, trying to discourage our learned Iranians and muddy the waters ... then again, IC has always been the realm of Nasty Operators like you!

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