JahanKhalili

Well

No one is here to entertain you, hamsade.

So given that...

... I sure as hell am not going to be like you guys - trapped in your little world, and trying to control each other so that none of you would dare do anything that makes you look bad or strange in front of other Iranians.

I'll be like those foreign archeologists, who didn't concern themselves with Iranian culture or what you Iranians thought, but went whereever they felt like going and exploring, and discovered stuff!

you're boring me jk.  i

you're boring me jk.  i think you need to focus on the question i posed to you.  it seems that you're the one who is running; running from facing your own demons.  anyone here knows that i'm quick to criticize my own hertiage as well as any inane reasoning. 

No wonder you all didn't discover your own archeology sites...

You're focused solely on the social - wondering how this will impact your precious little images.

Not one of you could dispute that what I wrote here is true: that the version of history that is being promoted by Iranians is false, and that the actual translation of the cylinder says something different from what you say.

You're not even interested in what it DOES say!

So, I'm not surprised that mostly foreign archeologists were the ones who discovered your stuff.

THEY weren't worried about how they looked in front of you, and didn't need your endorsement to go digging - unlike an Iranian would. 

ooh, right out of ala's

ooh, right out of ala's playbook: anonymous vs. known "figure."  you're not very original, are you?  you don't have the capacity to answer a single question and you are accusing me of not being able to focus.  good grief.

So

Can you focus on the topic?

then you should stop asking

then you should stop asking questins. right?  questions are only asked in police stations.

i never said "you don't have

i never said "you don't have a right."  now, you're resorting to putting words in my mouth and then fighting those words.  hehe.

Hey

I don't have to answer your bullshit questions, hamsade.

This ain't a police station. 

I'd go a bit further...

... and say that Iranians don't have such a system in their mind.

They don't respect individual rights.

For example, this hamsade entity is basically telling me that I have no right to say what I'm saying, because the public or a family member would disapprove, or that there must be something wrong with me if I question what those perfect Iranians do, or their precious Cyrus the Great's promoted image.

Iranians don't have a concept of individual freedom. I'm supposed to just serve others, in their opinion.

i knew you cannot answer a

i knew you cannot answer a simple question.  i tried a dialogue with you once before and you couldn't answer a simple question that i asked. 

and don't worry, i'm not offended by insults coming from yahoos.  i've been in this country longer than you can imagine and if i was offended by simpletons like you, i would've killed myself.  you're a hoot.  an attention-seeking hoot.  now give me three more comments while not answering my question.

Good insight...

... Tiger Lily!

"Why are Iranians so obsessed with family and reputation? "

Very simple: there has never been an impartial judicial system to protect any individual or a national welfare system to protect the individual.

Cyrus the "Great"

He's so great that Iranians have to make up things about him.

They're not satisfied with him the way he really was. 

Hey, I can say whatever I want to say

You can label it as hate. 

I don't care.

How's that? 

i would be more than happy

i would be more than happy to answer you but first answer this:

why do hate-mongers like to stereotype everyone within a group to certain characteristics? if you don't understand, i'll illustrate some asinine stereotypes by simple-minded hate-mongers: why are all blacks lazy?  why all jews so darn cheap? why are all men pigs? why are all blondes stupid? why are all irish drunks? ...

ok, you go first.

Great attitude JK

I am like that too.

If you've been really paying attention

You should realize by now that I don't care what you think.

You can stop trying to insult me, because it won't work. 

hamsade ghadimi

Why are Iranians so obsessed with family and reputation? 

jahan, i think that a a

jahan, i think that a a particular family member would be shocked to know the hatred you're spewing on the web. right away, he would try to get you into an intervention program. i'm sure that he personally knows of many fine palces where you can get committed. he would especially be broken-hearted if he knew you're badmouthing cyrus the great.  you very well know that your ancestors chose to stay in iran way back when instead of trekking to old jerusalem to build a temple (or at least that's the story they like to tell).  it could be very well that they just didn't have the pioneer spirit (like the hillbillies in the dakotas)!

at any rate, you should have been warned not to try to be a quail; now it's too late as you cannot return to being a simple and honorable crow (or should i say half-crow :).

ROFLM, JK!

agreed 100 %.(except that I've only ever met 2 Iranians ever who've even mentioned the cylinder)

But you know what? I'm apparently of Iranian origin too, but have never put any weight on the cylinder: I tried to  'sit' on it and it was about to  break. ;)

Take it as one of the 'nice' items in your heritage and be done with it.  Nothing more nor less.

It is what people make out of their backgrounds that counts. It's a damned tall order and it does require honesty.

P.S. we are animals. Some flex their muscles, some read, some flaunt peacock feathers etc.. 

عزیزم

عزیزم، آدمهای بی هدف هستند که کشفیات میکنند. من که بی هدفم، توجه نکردم به هدف، بلکه به کنجکاویم اجازه دادم که من را به هر کجا که بخواهد، ببرد. و این به من اجازه میدهد که تحقیق کنم و ببینم حقیقت چه است.  برای همین است که آدمهای با هدف مثل شما چیزی را کشف نمیکنند. کنجکاوی در  خودت را از بین بردین، و این هم یکی از اثرهای بد فرهنگ ایرانی است.  

سیلندر کوروش منشور حقوق بشر نیست

سیلندر کوروش منشور حقوق بشر نیست. اگر از حقیقت می خواهید فرار کنید، میتوانید. میتوانید ادامه بدهید

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مرده اندیش و عقلی نابالغ...به مانندِ تو فراوان بی‌ هدف بدینجا و بدانجا دیده ایم،شاید قسمت تو نیز این باشد .

خوش باش در این بن بستی که خود به خود کرده ای.

توصیه از کسانی که چیزی نمیدانند

من توصیه از کسانی که نه فقط چیزی نمیدانند، بلکه باید این همه دروغ بگویند، قبول نمیکنم. اصلا منظور این سری بلاگ همین است. 

باز هم دروغ ؟

باز هم دروغ ؟ دروغش از خواندن ترجمه واقع ای متن سیلندر معلوم  است. حالا بیا باز هم دروغ بگو. 

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هیچ هم دروغ نگفته اند،برداشتِ شماست که اشکالِ درونی‌ دارد،جنابعالی زمین و زمان را به هم میبافید تا چه حاصل کنید ؟ این همه صحبتها و این همه داستانهایِ حسین کرد چیست ؟ چه چیز را می‌‌خواهید به محکمه برید ؟ نمی‌بینید که دیگر اعضایِ محترمِ این تارنما چطور با شما رفتار میکنند ؟ کاملا مشخص است که شما در ایران زندگی‌ نکردید،ایرانیِ واقعی‌ را نمیشناسید،ایرانِ قبل از انقلاب،آن زندگی‌‌هایِ اصیل را ندیدید،حق هم دارید این چنین ایران را خاکستری بینید،همه چیز را که نمی‌شود از کتاب خواند و از اینترنت روبرداری کرد و فیلم و تصویر دید... ایرانی بودن یک احساسِ پاک است که هر کس ندارد،حتی اگر در آنجا متولد شده باشد.

ما به شما توصیه می‌کنیم که بیشتر سفر کنید،زبانهایِ خارجه بیاموزید،تاریخِ واقعی‌ را در آن کشور ها..به رویِ مردمِ واقعی‌ مطالعه کنید.سعی‌ کنید خود شناسی‌ کنید تا بدین نحو ریشه یابی‌ کرده و اشکالِ کار را در خود جستجو کنید.وگرنه کسی‌ شما را جدی نمیگیرد،این روز‌ها کسی‌ حوصله منفی‌ گری، منفی‌ بافی‌،زشت بینی‌ِ بی‌ ریشه، زشت اندیشی‌ و زشت رفتاری را ندارد.

به ریشه بازگردید و خود شناسی‌ کنید.

چرا

نمیدانم چرا ایرانیها این قدر روی برتری و مسابقه کی از کی بهتر است، متمرکزند. مثل شغلهای که سر حیوان مرده دعوا میکنند. 

پس بگو ببینم

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این یکی‌ را باش ... یکی‌ دیگر از آنهایی که دنیا تنها از بیرونیِ پنجره خانه خودش می‌‌شناسد !

هر چه باشیم از آمریکایی‌هایِ بی‌ ریشه و دروغ گو بهتریم و یک عالم سرتر از اروپاییهایِ دزد و خونریز .

تمام .