anonymous111.2

KouroshS

You are correct about them making a lot of noise, and that is a direct consequence of them having to defend the indefensible.  I guess when you have nothing to say to defend your position you have to resort to this kind of nonsense.

The silver lining to all this is that we have managed to smoke them out.  There are only a handful of them on this site.  Whenever there is a piece like mine here that questions IRI, they all come out and tear themselves apart, calling us all kind of names.  It doesn’t take long either.  If you look at the beginning of the comment section of this blog, the “usual suspects” came out within an hour or so. :-)

Soooooo, we’ll just have to let them “vent”.  Let them come out and spew their gibberish, and then move on.     

What is the fuss about?

Iranian President Ahmadinejad gets U.S. Secret Service protection while at the United Nations, United Nations security and Iranian Security.  Rumor has it that his speech is done with total quiet in the audience.  And the audience is video tapped by Iranian security officials to see who are the "trouble makers".  It is not worth going to such a party for a free meal.

Ushpizin (holy guests) [to KouroshS]

Kourosh,  are you and mossadA Ushpizin-ing together?, my comment was addressed to him not you, let him answer first. To understand Ushpizin-ing please visit: //www.abc.net.au/atthemovies/txt/s1569807.htm . and you'll see what I mean. Here is an excerpt:

"...a couple of guests turn up. Eliahu, Shaul Misrahi, and Yosef,
Ilan Gannai, are day release convicts who have decided not to return to
prison;..."

BTW Kourosh jan, with your extensive Ushpizining experience you can easily get into Ahmadinejad's party and feast on the chelow-kabob! 

antarinejad cartoon

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=niOHVIuZz2k

"Better to live for just a single day as a ruler than to live for forty years as an abject slave."

B.K.

Ananymosu 112.2

You have brought up such a valid point.

Have you noticed how hard they have been at work lately? They have repeated the same line over and over so many times, Even to the point of trying to so childishly and immaturely exclude others out of various discussions on this topic, and using lame and absolutely rediculous humor to make their point.

Have you ever noticed how overly analytical they become, trying to rip every single word and sentence apart, take the logic out of it and forcefully insert their own nonsense as Logic into the argument?

Then... the funny thing is that when you reply to them in kind, all of a sudden they become paranoid and accuse of being a "stalker" and a "fascist" who have no intention but to slander their character and oh, assasinate their character. LOL

 I have not seen anything more hlarious than this in my entire life. As i have mentioned it to them before, If it were not for the entertainment they provided, This world would have been in a more dire situation that it already is. God bless them for doing this.

why taking the comment out of context?

Donkeyfly jaan

First. I hope that you enjoyed that song that i dedicated to you on that other thread. Don't get any ideas now, I don't have any feelings for you or anything . I know thatyou have a tendency to get excited very too soon and too fast.

Second. at the risk being called a Islamofascist, isareal-lover, zionist, and all those other names who have ascribed to me. all masoud A is saying is that let us make this a moment for everyone to remember, especially for AN. Chera dige shooloogesh kardi? Oh. I remembered a couple more names... Labor of zion, Zioislamists, Zioisreal slave.

It is about time that you realized that AN does not stand for Honesty and Rafsanjani does not support equality and justice!!! Should it be any of you or anyone else's buisness to what extend one is expressing one's patriotism? Do you reserve the right to love iran the way you do and everyone else should get lost and go to hell?  And then you call others warmongers?

Invitations

Is it only iranians in New York who get invited?

Mr. Rashidian

You stated[The Hague Court should issue arrest warrants against all IRI seniors and collaborators since 1979.  Ahmadinejad should normally be immediate arrested by the international judiucial authorities once he is in NY.]

Government delegation attending the UN meeting have political immunity, and they can not be arrested while under that protection. Last year there was a debate among US authorities regarding denying visa for Antarinejad in relation to his denouncement of Holocaust, but eventually they had to issue the visa.

He should be arrested and tried by Iranian people and no one else. This is their revenge for all the blood they have shed and for all of Islamic Hokomat's atrocities.

-YT 

Q- You know why people MUST attend the party?

Because if they don't, Ahmadinejad is going to get embarrassed, which, in turrn, will embolden Israel, which, in turn, will attack and bomb Iran!

Be scared...be very scared...

(Hey, it has worked before.  Let's give it a shot this time too.) :-)

Nano Piaz (to Jaleh, Q, ...)

I don't live in NYC area, and if I am not mistaken my name is still in IRI's sh*t list ...... so I really doubt if I'll be invited for Nano Piaz, let alone chelow-kabab!  But, I suggest IF you guys can go to the dinner, please go, ...., go there and criticize AN...
I am sure there won't be shortage of people such as Shazdollah, mossadA, ..., and others who will be protesting, cursing, and weaving vienna hot dogs ...... you can do something different. Of course watch for the more fascist “freedom fighters” of "opposition".

benross - It's Their Favorite Tactic

It's not because you're new to this site.  This whole thing about "iran is going to be bombed" is the Islamist bunch's favorite M.O.  Have you heard the expression "stick to what works"?  Well this is what they have been doing and saying for the past 30 years.  Everytime there is opposition to IRI, the regime accuses the opposing party of being a foreign tool or a spy, "Zionist" or American are their favorites, but you may hear other occasionally, like thie year when they blamed it on the British.  They also scare people by constantly claiming that Iran is under imminent danger of attack by israel so that they can militarize the government more and more and consolidate power.  Their agents, operatives, propagandists (on the internet and this site)--and clueless idiots who eat up that propaganda-- also follow the same tactic to silence and demonize the opposition.  It's also a very good method of diverting attention from their own atrocities.  In essence, this has worked for them very well for the past 30 years and they're sticking to what works.  The show trials that they're running in Iran are other examples of this tactic.  In a nutshell, their M.O. is to call you an Isaeli, etc. agent who wants Iran bombed whenever you oppose them on any issue.

So, don't be surprised to see this line of attack more often.  Trust me, I'm plenty used to it by now. :-).    

I came back here

Just to clarify a detail:

I am not by all means a pro-Mousavi, I have never been.

I protest against the savage treatment of my people, not for Mousavi.

Just wanted to say it now, in case of an eventual future exposure of my words :)

111.2

You have an active imagination, presumably! LOL!

I wish you and all the other personalities in your head a good luck and a peaceful future. If you've decided you need to give your empty life meaning by wasting your time trying to "expose" people, you're going to need it.

The rest of us, however, will stay clear of you and try to actually do something real with our lives.

A Few Responses

First, to all who stand opposed to Ahmadinejad and his evil regime, and for who stand for protesting and exposing IRI suppoters and symphatizers, rest assured knowing that you are, and will be, on the right side of history. 

The Mrs.: As far as I know, invitations go out based on a list that is complied by IRI's interest section in DC and its UN mission of Iranians with whom they had contact, and who live around the metropolitan NYC area.  You do not necessarily need to be a supporter to get an invite.  You are sent one even if you have your passport renewed with them and they have your address.  The decision as to attend is obviously up to you.

Q, Q, Q:  You can put Mousavi's picture as your avatar, but no one will forget your record on this site.  As I mentioned in this piece, and later in a comment, despite what you claim here today as going there to protest, here you are a year ago, trying to see if the meeting was open to everyone, presumably so you could attend.  I even made a comment at that time about it (I was unregistered, but still used the same screen name):

//iranian.com/main/2008/boycotting-ahmadinejads-u-s-visitpage2

and as to why people like me didn't do this last year, it's bit complicated, but try to follow me here.  When I spoke to people last year who were going to attend, they mainly gave me the same excuse that I mentioned in the piece, which was that they thought that the IRI was reforming and this is the way to do it: embracing and engaing them.  Now, pay attention here, because this is what you will have the most trouble understanding: see, unlike you I am not an arrogant, narcissistic blowhard.  I had the humility to consider the possibility that perhaps I was wrong in my opinions of the IRI and that what the attendees were saying was right, and that the best path for the people of Iran was for the IRI to be engaged.  So, I kept my peace and didn't say anything.  And I followed this effort for change in Iran, which culminated in the disaster of June 21, 2009.  And I think that I, and people who had a similar opinion of the IRI, were proven right.  IRI is not reformable.  It is a military dictatorship, and if history is a guide, military dictatorship do not reform and do not turn into democracies by popular vote.  They are violent, oppressive systems, most of which end with internal coups and bloody uprisings.  My personal opinion is that the IRI will end with the former and not the latter, but that is just my guess.  In either event, its propagandists, of whatever nationality, race, religion or creed, must be exposed. 

Shazdeh: your responses to the Islamist bunch and their lackeys was priceless! 

Mola Nasrredin: If I where you, I wouldn't talk about the virtues of camel meat too much.  If you keep it up, then one day someone may "zebh-e- Islami" Hazarte Shotor and kabob him.  Then you will lose your husband and become a widow, and according to the rules of Isalm, and as a fellow Muslim, I will become obligated to support you and your offspring, and frankly, I just can't afford it.

Jaleho: oh, forget it...too easy...

........

 Hi! Khaleh Mosheh

I like the cancer analogy you used in your argument. It is right on! You deserve a standing ovation for that, the analogy fits the situation perfectly, you must know oncology very well:

Lets say if I had colon cancer and my surgoen said that we are not seeing things in black and white and we are just going to remove 45% of the tumour I would definitely think he was a moron and would change surgeons pretty quickly.

thanks,

yolanda

what Gheyrat, masoudA?

"To others - These are some of the most important times in the history
of our nation.   If there is any Gheyrat in us - we must make a showing
against AN in NY (Sept 23-24) like never before - one the world would
notice and AN would never forget.   And that is exactly why the IRI
apologists have turned jokers here.   I hope I see all Iran lovers
there."

MossadA/masoudA, you have been one of the most vocal advocates of attacking Iran. If Ahmadinejad stands for honesty and moderation, if Rafsanjani stands for equality and justice, then you stand for patritism and love for Iran!  I don't agree with Q or Jaleh in many respects, but I definitely respect them much more than I respect a war monger!   

Thank you all

for your commenst...yes...even you Mola.  I was away yesterday and just now checked on my blog.  I now see all the comments.  I will respond to a few later.  In the meantime, a quick comment: here's a website where photos of the "attendees" (more like symphatizers) can be posted for identification:

//gerdabsabz.blogspot.com/

The way I see it, those who legitimize this regime by attending Ahmadinejad's party this year are no different than the Basijis who keep the regime in power in Iran.  Basiji's are the regime's muscle, and these people are the regime's propaganda arm (and tool).  So, if and when you come across photos of this year's attendees, please submit them to this site.

Lol, Shepesh

you can do everything you want to do, but the best thing IMO is to do a protestation by mass, in front of the UN.

Dear Souri

Oh no, well I can at least wish and fantasise, as it is all we Iranians can do these days.

Ok failing that he cannot yet be arrested for torturing and raping our children perhaps we can arrange a special "Happy Inauguration" song in Marilyn Monroe breathless style to him, sang by a woman in a chador.

"Happy In....au..gu..ration .......  Mester Preeeeesssident ...."  

//underthehill.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/ahmadinehottie.jpg

Legally speaking

Thank you Mr Rashidian. All you said is correct. However there are rules in regard to Immigration and Visa services, which should be respected no matter what is the degree of the charge.

As I said before, there is an international sentence against Mousavi and Rafanjani (and another person that I don't remember the name) regarding their instigation in the bombing affairs in Lebanon and the creation of the Lebanese Hezbollah.

This is different from AN's responsibilities in the recent crimes in Iran.

First, this is (no matter what) an internal issue, and it is very difficult for a foreign country like US (a member of the UN) to arrest a political body, in their ground, as long as they have issued a visa for their trip.

The other fact is, like in many countries, the judiciary system in Iran, works independently from the government ( sorry I don't remember the exact term in English: ghoveh ghazaayeh az ghoveh mojrieh joda ast). AN, can plead "not guilty" in regard to these charges against him, because, wanted or not, he can prove that he is not the author nor the instigator of those crime!

This is the difference between a King and a President in a country like Iran :)

Now, there is another degree of charge, AN can be accused of, and this is :

"Being a prescribed senior official in the service of a government that, in the opinion of UN, engages or has engaged in terrorism, systematic or gross human rights violation, or genocide, a war crime or a crime against humanity within the meaning of the Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act."

Now, AN is not yet being convicted of this charge. Once the UN will issue this conviction (which is not very easy) only then, the US and/or other members of the UN, would be able to arrest him.

Global Protest Agaist AN in UN

The whole IRI has been an active example of crimes, misogyny, backwardness since its existence.

IRI crimes have been witnessed by a generation in Iran and many human rights organisations in the world. IRI numbers of victims are not less than those of Bin Laden, Mullah Omar, Omar Albashir for whom the US would certainly not issue visa of entry in the UN.

For crime against humanity,  The Hague Court should issue arrest warrants against all IRI seniors and collaborators since 1979.  Ahmadinejad should normally be immediate arrested by the international judiucial authorities once he is in NY. However, if Ahmadinejad  is allowed to participate in United Nations General Assembly meeting, Iranians in a global campaign along with all freedom-loving people of the world are expected to express their objection against his presence in the UN.

Molla

Playing the vicitm for an Islamist is highly unconvincing. There is a significant body of evidence why the islamists are the villians of the piece and not the vicitm. 

As far as learning a NEW swear word and using it- I would rather think of it as the other way round- I always knew the awear words but the folks who deserve it are now so readily visible and unashamedly forward with their behaviour, that one is left no choice but to employ the appropriate terminology for the circumstances under consideration.

Also you are not pulling the wool over anyones eyes by saying - oh its not all black and white- lets have a nuanced approach-- Lets say if I had colon cancer and my surgoen said that we are not seeing things in black and white and we are just going to remove 45% of the tumour I would definitely think he was a moron and would change surgeons pretty quickly.

Anyway as I said each to his/her own- If you wish to support a mudering regime directly, indirectly or by siding with imbeciles who do so then its your choice- Its really water off a duck's back for me.

PS Youlanda- Thanks for the comment- I agree that Islam is a nasty, backward misogynistic religion and there is plenty of supportive evidence. 

Khaleh Moshe, "There You Go Again!"

as our deceased Hollywood actor turned president Ronald Reagan would have said. We already discussed the subject of personal attacks against others on this thread this morning.

Your words and reactions remind of the one who has just learned a new curse word and desparately is looking for some one to use it on. 

Demonstrations against the Iranian governments and Iranian officials in United States have been going on for more than half a century. It's a trdition, a right of passage and Now it's your turn. So, Go to New York, march, scream and shout. Did anybody tried to stop you on this thread? Go back and read them all.  

There is no absolute Truth and if there was one it wouldn't be Black or White. You don't have to Burn and destroy the opposing views in order to be Right. As long as you know you'r right it's good enough. 

Thank you, khaleh Mosheh, for the link!

It is so sad the humans', especially women's lives are trampled upon by mullahs there, it is saaaaad!

yolanda

Molla and Camel

I am glad that within islam you two are allowed to consumate your affection without any risk to the health of the beast from an islamic stand point.

I just wish that the islamist had the same respect for their citizens that they have for camels

 //www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEOsmFTw040&feature=PlayList&p=C08CEFD93C173834&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=99

Shepesh

I don't want to break it to you :0)

But if he comes to the US, it means he succeed to get a diplomatic visa, then he will have the "Political immunity". 

Either he is "Inadmissible on security ground" like are Mousavi and Rafsanjani, or he is not and can get the visa.

Usually if a person is accused of "Crime against the humanity" the US is not supposed to issue their visa.

That was just FYI, nothing against your wishes :)

Respectfully,

Dear Shepesh

I love your suggestion! That is great! I think I better take a day off that day to watch the minute by minute development on CNN! It looks like it is a highly anticipated event!

thanks for your post! Great job!

yolanda

His present for his party should be ...

He should be arrested and tried for crimes against humanity. Akbar Ganji and Shirin Ebadi had sent a petition to UN demanding his arrest as soon as he appears in the West.

They should send a very large cake, and police jump out of it as he smiles. I would love there to be hidden camers to capture the moment they surround him and take him away.

Answers to "chirpy" Islamist lovers on this thread: PG13 version

1. Why do you guys/gals need to lie? You were there last year, kissing up, and you'll be there for this sequel too! Don't try to create an "opposition" image for yourself - your mouth is still sullied from the last year encounter. 

  2. Gherti Persians: you mean like your own kids; your nieces and nephews? What if the younger generation takes a shower and wears clean clothes? They are sub-human for that reason - with no rights?  

3. There will be a FOOL delegation alright, but not much of the Iranians inside - rather a bunch of on-demand arabs and pakis. The real delegates of our people will be outside, sending the real message!

Wrong Again!

Sister moosh, While on the subject of burning creatures alive I would like to make a few corrections:

It was during the Middle Ages when good shepards of church in Europe burned the non-believers alive, mostly the Jews.

As for camels, Muslims as well as some other cultures do not burn them alive, rather, their meat is consumed by the population. Their meat taste much like cows but a tad sweeter.

With this explanation, I hope you've got your appetite back.