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The Koran, Islam and Iran

The Koran is the best book in Iran.
Islam is the best religion Iran ever had.
Thank you for your time.
Have a nice day.

love no religion

kosse madareh harche mosalmone kondeha..kiram tou dahanetoun....bekareen...khar kosteha..

To All those Who Read My Comments

I want to make sure that you fully understand what my background is:

I was devoted to Mammad Reza Shah Pahlavi. Also, I am a Zartoshti, and when I was growing up, I grew up among the Jewish people.

Consequently, I developed strong negative feelings towards Islam.

Please remeber that when you are reading my comments in this blog. Thanks

P.S. I also use multiple names throughout this site. Names such as Ahmad Bahai, Anonymouspb, Anonymous2008, babakoohi, Kos Sher, and most recently, Nader Vanaki, and Kafka.

I'll keep you posted of new ones if I use them.

Where is Q? He seems to

Where is Q? He seems to thinks that Islam is all that and a bag of chips! Come on bache saeed, stop stroking your beard while wacking off to the Koran.

Dear LostIdentity

Your analogy is as closed minded as your stance on religious matters. In the example of wine, if your pathetic wine maker had allowed himself to understand why grape juice turns into vinegar (aerobic fermentation) or wine (anaerobic fermentation) then he would not have to stand in awe and say jallal khalegh.

You are the stuff, that self proclaimed men of God feed on. You have given up control of your mind and your soul to these con artists and have convinced yourself of their divinity. You still can’t find it in yourself to explain what’s hidden in the meaning of the lines I posted from the Koran. So you have resorted to age old safsateh.

Your interpretation of poetry is as shallow as your religious world view, but it is yours to enjoy and you do not have to force it on any one else. You may enjoy it more though, once you allow yourself to leave your box and enter the garden. Suffice it to say, since I am not an idolizing idol worshipper, I don’t idolize molana but appreciate him as a fallible human being but with immense intelligence. But the discussion is not about Molana, it is about how a closed mind can fall into the trap of idol worshipping.

I will take more classes if I get another chance in life. There is no shame in learning. You should try it too, instead of believing that human intelligence is static and everything humans needed to know were “revealed” by Mohammad, and reinterpreted to Iranian taste, by Molana. Molana was intelligent but hardly the last intelligent man who will ever visit the face of this earth. Get off of your high horse and stop your self indulgence in “open heart” acceptance of none sense, because it is shameful and insulting to human intelligence.

I am not egotistical at all. I just can’t let my intelligence be over taken by the hallucinations of a narcissist, epileptic, camel herder of 1400 years ago. I want to define my own spirituality without people like you dictating their interpretation of mammal paapati’s wisdom, to me.

Re: Anon...4now......

I forgot to address this:
"Well, it seems like you have taken the rang of ta’alogh from your religious background."

Of course, I do. This might come as a surprise to you that you have the same very issue. The difference is that Rang Ta'alogh in your case in your Ego.
Contrary to some "psuedo- Intellectual" thinking, I do not believe in what I call "Floatation Ideaology). This type of ideaology is like that floatation jacket you put on when disaster strikes a plane and crashes into the ocean. The jacket will save but the vistim is at the mercy of Ocean tide and the direction of the wind. Human history is a collection of vast priceless deeds, thought and works of humanity. One needs to "listen to what is said or recorded, and pick what has great value"
That is the challenge: To pick what is right and has great value.

Az khane boroon raftam;
Mastim be pish amad;
Dar har nazarash mozmar;
Sad golshan o kashanneh;
Goftam ze kojayee to?;
Taskhor zad o goft ey jan;
Nimim ze turkestan;
Nimim ze forghaneh;
Nimim ze aab o gehl;
Nimim ze jan o del;
Nimim lab e darya;
Nimim hame dordane;
(I appologize if the poem is our of order!)

We are all human pots. Need to leave this behind to see the color of joy. In human nature is BELONGING and the Love is it's string.

Peace;

Re: Anon...4now......

Self-centered personality (Self infatuation, Kish e shakhsiyat) is direct result of knowledge being cover to the eye of one's mind and heart. It's a known human catastrophe in todays age causing so many psychological issues with detrimental effects in modern age.
Let me put this in a simple form:
Consider someone making vinegar out of grapes but to his surprise, he ends up having liquor at the end. What went wrong? DO not underestimate the processing power of human mind. The input in both cases are genuine grapes (knowledge) but the end products are so very different. Our mind is aComplex processing machine. The end result is determined by individual's Transfer Function of his/her brain. You feed in the same very data/information to both brains and expectedly, you get two very different outcome (understanding). Some people are Encyclopedia of General Schience (or what I call in Parsi: Dayeratolma'aref Ulum e Mokhtalefe ye Bikhoodi - DUMB). All they collect in their brain is Data/Information. The vital role of human intelligensia is to make something usefull out of this information. Otherwise, we just carry the burden of all this jiberrish in our brain as the horses carry their loads.

This following line of yours trully surprised me:
"The story of Moosa and Shaban is an excellent parable, to believe in real life. You should always aspire to be Moosa in confrontation with the Shabans who take the most basic and carnal view of the intelligence in this nature.
"
I'm not sure if your teacher was astrayed or somehow you came up with this understanding which is in direct contrast to the teachings of Rumi.
As Rumi says:
Ma boroon ra nangareem of ghal ra;
Ma daroon ra bengareem o hal ra;

Please take a bit more classes but please be very fussy on choosing teachers and books.

You say
"I have reached this point in my life because I have dared to question the authority that told me I am to be afraid of it and not ask questions, or when I do to ask them with an open heart. "

The Authority left us free to "Question him", "Reject him" or "Love him". That is our choice.
"Fear of being away from him is the most painfull fear one can ever have", Abu-Said Abalkheir.
How can one fear him with all the abundance of compassion and Grace he has on us? It's our deeds that we fear!

Peace;

Dear LostIdentity

Well, it seems like you have taken the rang of ta’alogh from your religious background.

You say:

“because you and I are strangers to what occupied their HEARTS.”

It is exactly for this reason I studied Persian literature at University level and suggest you do the same too.

“Yes, Dear enlightened human, I truly believe the knowledge CAN become a cover to the eye of one's mind and heart.”

This is the most void of content comment I have ever heard. Without knowledge you have garbage in and garbage out. That’s what religion is. To be curious and to acquire Knowledge is an innate characteristic of the human species. The more knowledge one acquires the more one becomes equipped to ask more intelligent questions. Human intelligence is born of the intelligence in this nature and will never surpass it. At best it can approach it asymptotically. Therefore, it can never grasp the concept of the intelligence in this nature, fully. The mind's modeling capabilities are inadequate. Very much like performing brain surgery on yourself. Therefore, I will not take any color of Ta’alogh or blindly follow some camel jokey from an era long gone. The story of Moosa and Shaban is an excellent parable, to believe in real life. You should always aspire to be Moosa in confrontation with the Shabans who take the most basic and carnal view of the intelligence in this nature.

“Try to take a moment and spend some time in the presence of God, and see why you've reached this point in your life."

I have reached this point in my life because I have dared to question the authority that told me I am to be afraid of it and not ask questions, or when I do to ask them with an open heart. I will only ask questions with an open and alert mind.

Happy journey in life!

To: Zion

You are not only an idiot, you are a hypocrite too. First ask your stinking Israeli brothers to free Palestine and its people. Until Israel is occupied by you Zionists, you'd better shut the hell up and not ask anything of Iranians or Muslims. And get the hell out of this Iranian site too. Why don't you go to an Israeli site and talk all the crap you want!

Re; Anon....4now

It's amazing how you invert things around. It is not so strange to see how you reason some characters and historical facts to get something that will be acceptable to your intelligence system. If it gets you closer to your beloved, so be it (I doubt it though).
I'm really baffled to see how you take Rumi or Hafez poem and twist it around to serve your reasoning and purpose. IT IS THE SAME EXACT THINKING PROCESS THAT CONSIDERS "SHARAB" IN RUMI OR HAFEZ WORKS THE SAME "SHARAB" AS THEY FIND IN LIQUOR STORES!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A PATHETIC INTERPRETATION!!!!! DO I HAVE TO SAY ANYMORE. If I say anymore, I would say:
Mian mah e man ta mah e gardoon;
Tafavot az zamin ta aseman ast;

What's even more mind-buggling is that you seem to whisper that Rumi or Hafez actually changed their course of belief....How do you get Mullahs into this 7th lunar century, I have no idea!!!!!!!!!

Dear enlightened human, try to actually read more reference books about these noble Iranians than the magazines and some special-interest publications. Try to go through Ghazalliat Hafez and Divane shams for the purpose of UNDERSTANDING HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THOSE POEMS rather than JUDGING THEIR CHARACTER. I bet you will go wrong if you do the latter because you and I are strangers to what occupied their HEARTS.

Yes, Dear enlightened human, I truly believe the knowledge CAN become a cover to the eye of one's mind and heart. We are all human POTs. We pour in some data, and then we prcess it. It is not how much one bunches up in the hard-disk but rather how one utilizes it. The power of intention is critical. I'm sure you have heard the story of "MOOSA VA SHABAN" from beloved Rumi. Now, we can take a positive energy ourt of it and grow; Or, we can condemn it as a folklure story for ghetto dwellers; Or, we can say that Rumi was under the influence of his Mullah teachers then and he actually defied this type of story after he became enlightened later in life!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can see that you have gone in certain path of reasoning things step by step and you're where you are. Try to take a moment and spend some time in the presence of God, and see why you've reached this point in your life. If you believe in God, Forget about politics and groups 'n enemies 'n friends 'n hatred 'n anger 'n jealousy 'n revenge.........NONE OF THESE WILL PROTECT US IN TIME OF NEED.

You are trying to detach Mullahs from these noble man. I for one am not in the business of attaching or detaching!!!!!!!!!!!
Gholam e hemmat e aanam ke zir e charkh e kabood;
Ze har cha rang e ta'allogh pazirad, AZAD ast;

Peace on earth for all mankind;

Rosie: You're welcome. I

Rosie: You're welcome. I think the French Revolution and the Iranian Revolution share many similarities. I have been reading this book,
"The Survival of Culture" by Hilton Kramer and Roger Kimball. In a piece entitled “Burke and Political Liberty,” by Martin Greenberg, the author is discussing the French Revolution and its excesses, and how it was that so many political figures of the time made excuses for the path the Jacobins took.

Greenberg’s summary of the position of apologists for the Reign of Terror is well worth reading, and is relevant today when thinking of the many Leftists in the West who have become apologists for a different form of terror—the Islamist totalitarian variety:

How did intelligent, cultivated people, then and later, come to excuse these abominations which ordinary simplicity sees for what they are? One answer, of course partial, seems to be the deep shift, anticipated by Rousseau, of moral feeling away from concern for liberty to concern for social justice.

I'm not going to register because I don't see any need for it.

Dear LostIdentity

I, like most Iranians, was born into a Moslem family in a Moslem nation, but I have not let that fact take over my soul and mind. Ever since I have found the courage to ask questions, I have tried to understand Islam better but it has been a very disappointing journey. Islam, more than any other religion feeds on creating fear in people to take over their control for total submission. This fear, instilled in the believers by the verses in the Koran, has prevented many to question and learn. So in a sense, I do know more than your average Moslem, about Islam. I have read the Koran, and read the histories of Iran and Islam. I have also studied Persian literature. I am not a scholar though, and think there is nothing scholarly about Islam and believe that “Islamic scholar” is an oxymoron.

Do you refute the quotations of the Koran Anonymous! And I posted earlier?
You say:
“I'm glad you hate Ali for the negative values you attribute to him. The Ali that you portray is someone who I will regard unjust as well.”
“The Irony is that I consider him my role model and he gives moslems positive energy to do good things in for people.”
Why do you need an imaginary Ali, who never existed, to give positive energy to people? Why do you need to swallow so much more, such as the uncultivated cultic culture of Islam, to accept this imaginary Ali? The real Ali was a murderer and the killer of many Iranians. The cruelest joke, on Iranians, is that this father and son (Ali and Hossein) despised Iranians and killed them whenever they had the opportunity, yet 1400 years Iranians mourn their deaths as if they had lost their parents. If you only want to take what Iranians have contributed to Islam then call it something else, like erfaan. That is not Islam. Islam is what I printed from the Koran. This is your version of what you believe to be your faith from your heart. You made a reference to Molaana which I don’t recognize in English, but it has nothing to do with Islam. It talks about love, between the lover and the beloved and the unity of the lover and the beloved. It is the same quest for looking within to find what you are after.
I am sure you know molaana’s life story, but I’ll write a few words about it here. Molaana was brought up to be a Mullah and was fed the same clap trap we were fed, growing up. He made a sharp transition at 25 when he became exposed to science and rational thinking and that’s when the dichotomy between Islam and rationalism was instilled in him. At 40 he met Shamseh Tabrizi and became illuminated. He descirbes his own life, and his three stages of growth in this way:

خام بدم پخته شدم سوختم

So Molaana’s life and poetry span the whole spectrum, and if at times he sounds like a Moslem, it is because he was a Mullah at his core. He escaped that yoke of Islam, in his later years.

First a rubaii from him:

تا مدرسه و مناره ويرا ن نشود
ا حوال قلندری به سامان نشود
تا ايمان کفروکفر ايمان نشود
يک بنده حق به حق مسلمان نشود

And then the essence of his thought, after his illumination:

ای قوم به حج رفته کجاييد کجاييد
معشوق همين جاست بياييد بياييد
معشوق تو همسايه ديوار بديوار
در باديه سرگشته شما در چه هواييد
ده بار از آن راه بدان خانه برفتيد
يکبار از اين خانه براين بام براييد

Hafiz says the same thing too:

سا لها دل طلب جام جم ا زما ميکرد
آ نچه خود داشت ز بيگانه تمنّا ميکرد

You can’t call this Islam. Islam is the Koran Anonymous! And I quoted. Islam is being practiced in the Islamic Republic.

So don’t look for a bigaaneh, in every essence of the word, to show you the way to your heart. This philosophy is the essence and the core of Iranian philosophy since, at least, the days of Zoroaster.

If Islam is the thesis, this is the antithesis. If the Koran seems disappointing it is because it has no substance and never did. We never had the courage to question it, and we never read it objectively. If it is truly the word of God then it must surely withstand the rigor of the wisdom of his creations. It does not. Try reading it. Don’t rationalize a defense for its shortcomings! Humanity has suffered enough.

Re: Correction to response

Jamshid,
The following paraghraph did not portray what I had in mind:
"I do agree with you that all faiths (including Bahai or atheists or Agnosts) must be free to believe in their belief system. I do not believe in people being free to practice their belief, IF that will cause aggression on other people's belief, UNLESS it was voted by popular vote.
"

HERE IS THE CORRECTED RESPONSE:
I do agree with you that all faiths (including Bahai or atheists or Agnosts) must be free to believe in their belief system. I do not believe in people being free to practice their belief, IF that will cause aggression on other people's belief; However, statements within a system of belief that may be considered controversial by other system of beleifs should be allowed , provided that it was allowed for by popular vote.

Re: Anon..4now.....knows islam better than moslems!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You say:
"I congratulate on your devotion to your personal faith, which has no resemblance to established Islam. I think you have turned it into a more humane and compantionate faith for yourself,...."

Please come out of you prison and try to repeat to youself and understand what you say. Where you a moslem scholar in your past life?

Try to read some Rumi and many other Parsi jewels' works to bring you into the reality of Islam;
...

Kulliyat-e Shams, 2114

A moment of happiness,

you and I sitting on the verandah,

apparently two, but one in soul, you and I.

We feel the flowing water of life here,

you and I, with the garden's beauty

and the birds singing.

The stars will be watching us,

and we will show them

what it is to be a thin crescent moon.

You and I unselfed, will be together,

indifferent to idle speculation, you and I.

The parrots of heaven will be cracking sugar

as we laugh together, you and I.

In one form upon this earth,

and in another form in a timeless sweet land.

Re: Jamshid....read history and digest it with grain of salt!!!!

You say:
"I look forward to reading your research on Ali. I am well aware of Ali's atro........."

I'm glad you hate Ali for the negative values you attribute to him. The Ali that you portray is someone who I will regard unjust as well.

The Irony is that I consider him my role model and he gives moslems positive energy to do good things in for people.

So, now that we believe in same set of values, I'm sure there's a way to put aside what our ancestors did and go on with our life to build this world where the respect and justice will overwhelm people's life.

peace to all mankind;

Re: Jamshid

I really think you misunderstand my points as you think I misunderstand yours. I think it stems from the fact that you (as much as you think I guard my belief fanatically ) guard your belief fanatically. I will leave the judgement to other people see what they make of it.
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I do agree with you that all faiths (including Bahai or atheists or Agnosts) must be free to believe in their belief system. I do not believe in people being free to practice their belief, IF that will cause aggression on other people's belief, UNLESS it was voted by popular vote.
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If I or you were ruling Iran, we would probably let people with different belief systems live peacefully UNTIL they become DANGEROUS to political system's principals as it is the case with IRI or (any other country's government that was elected by popular vote) on the face of the earth with VARRYING DEGREE OF TOLERANCE. This is a known UNIVERSAL RULE.
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I did not vote for this IRI government, but don't you think it is unpopular to ask people (Majority moslems) to defy and break down the government they have voted for? To me it is wishfull thinking. They only way out I see now is constructive criticism (in action). It satisfies my principles that I'm not supposed to support and keep silence if I see some injustice, corruption or genocide is taking place. The way to democracy and justice is a gradual process in order to infuse it into social fabric. I'm sure we could have done it even with Shah's regime.

Re: Anonymous4now

I look forward to reading your research on Ali. I am well aware of Ali's atrocities against our ancestoral Iranians. I feel ashamed that we Iranians have high regards towards this "laate jaahel" arab. I feel ashamed that our heroes are these wortheless arab brutes, while we have babak, maziaar, and many more:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3121223863988306458&q=babak+khorramdin&total=7&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

Next time I go to Iran, I am planning to visit and pay respect to the symbolic resting place of Babak. At the end of the video, you can see other Iranians doing the same. You can see it here too:

http://www.payvand.com/news/04/jul/1071.html

The video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqjCEtToIW8

A suggestion to supposed "peaceful" muslims here

You who are very brave and pious in discussions like these, here is a chance to prove a bit of your claims in actions. Words are cheap. Do it. 

Here is already "peaceful" islamic reactions to Geert Wilders in the Netherlands. This is the true picture of Islam. You disagree? You think this is a defamation?  Fine. Start a campaigne, gather people, other of these millions of supposed "peaceful" true muslims and protect him, defend his right to free speech and shout out against these threatening Islamists, those who send these death threats. File suits against them. Go after them, find them and bring them to trial.

If you don't, then, very respectfully, just shut the hell up.

The world already stinks enough of your hypocrisy.

You are welcome! Jamshid jaan

I have intentions to print historical facts about Ali Amir al moe'menin and his son Hossein, people we have learnt to mourn for hysterically, to expose their hatred of Iranians and all things Iranian, and their massacred of Iranians. Unfortunately it is taking too much of my time to either translate them into English or type them in Persian, for the readers here.

Why is it necessary to read about this history? Because the shame and embarrassment of the horrendous crimes the Moslem Arabs committed against Iranians, has forced Moslem historians to change the facts of history and feed us the ignorant fables about how Iranians embraced Islam with open arms. Some Iranians have decided not to fight it and accept it as a fact of life while others have resisted it for 1400 (examples are numerous in our literature). Some people today justify their adherence to it because they believe the passage of time has made this nomadic cult of the desert our culture, while others argue that the Koran is different from what is being practiced as Islam and attempt to defend it from their own reformed position. Most defenders of the faith, I have encountered, have never read the Koran. It has taken 1400 years, but we are all, finally, waking up.

by Me!

I wish I could take the credit for that clever comparison, but it was Kouroush who saw the parallel.

Thanks you Kouroush.

Moosh_geereh aziz

"So I say this, you believe what you do dear and I believe what I believe. I won't force my religion on anyone."

This is the best answer I have ever heard form a Moslem. I congratulate on your devotion to your personal faith, which has no resemblance to established Islam. I think you have turned it into a more humane and companionate faith for yourself, and that is admirable. But you have to understand, it is not your faith I am challenging, but it is the authenticity of the claims of the IRI and militant Moslems, I am questioning. I will respect anyone who thinks like you.

Re: Anonymous! and Anonymous4now

Well done and thank you! One does not have to stop with Koran. We can also take a look at the Koran's verses in action when studying the expansion of Islam in its first few centuries.

All the verses of Koran were used in full force against our Iranian ancestors by the invading Arabs. They exercised those verses against Iranians who wished to remain Zoroastrian.

We don't have to stop there either. We can also study the behaviors of Islamic leaders in history. The likes of Aboo bakr, Ali, Osman, Khomeini and Mohamad himself. They are all further indications of Islam's brutal violence.

I am not done. We can also look at the behavior of today's moslems, their violence, hatred, arrogance, persecutions, intolerance, among other things.

All four, Koran verses, Islam's founding fathers and later leaders, Islam in action in history, and today's moslems behaviors are ALL in harmony and the same.

There are some tolerant moslems too who oppose Islamic violence and Sharia law. But then they are not true moslems because they have chosen to go against the direct commands of Allah in Koran. They are in denial.

Unlike Chirsitanity which was reformable, Islam is not reformable. Koran does not allow reform. There are many verses in Koran that indicate this. This shall be the nail in its coffin.

Re: A-for Now

Great piece to compare with Koran! The only difference is that Abe & Cost. did not have mental problems.

Moosh-Geer

You present such a logical debate, I don't know how to respond. I am just glad others are getting some facts out of this thread!

I caught you Anonymous!, just like a moosh

You are mixing truth with lies, just like Satan would do.

I once had a discussion with an American Satan worshipper here in the U.S. Ironically I was defending Christianity against his attacks. He was telling me that God is evil. I asked him why do you say that? He said that God forced Abraham to cut the throat of his son. How evil? I then described to him the reason for it and he shrugged and just did not get it! Why, because he like you did not believe in the After-life. So, I am not going to bother to explain to you why certain things are in Quran because I know you would not get it either!

Anonymous4now jan

The religion of Islam actually started with the Prophet Abraham who lived a few thousand years before the Prophet Mohammad. So it is not unusual for some of the wording in Islam to be similar to Abrahamish, Jewish, Christian religions.

So I say this, you believe what you do dear and I believe what I believe. I won't force my religion on anyone.

Good quotes Moosh-Geer. Where do you think the ones below came?

ISLAMIC HELL-TORTURE CHAMBER FOR UNBELIEVERS
I n this article I shall describe the Islamic Hell or Jahannum which was an imagination of Prophet Mohammed used primarily for two reasons:
1. To have a torture chamber for all the kafirs (unbelievers and people of other religions)
2. To terrorize people into accepting Islam.
The purpose of Hell in Islam is not to punish the Muslim wrong-doers. Because, for them Mohammed will recommend paradise, beautiful virgins and young boys on the Day of Judgment. His recommendation is final and Allah cannot deny it. It is available to all murderers, rapists, arsonists, cheats, thugs, pickpockets and pimps provided they are following Islam. On the contrary, a flaming Hell is reserved only for all Hindus, Sikhs, Jews and Christians, no matter how pious and God-fearing they may have been.
This article is divided in two sections. The first section deals with the brutal instructions Prophet Mohammed gives to his followers about Kafirs and how to torture, maim and murder them ruthlessly.
The second section explains the various procedures devised by Prophet Mohammed's sick imagination for torturing people of other religions in Hell.
Instructions to Muslims about Unbelievers
Koran 9:29
Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.
So here Prophet Mohammed is instructing a true Muslim to fight people of other religions until the unbelievers debase themselves and pay tax for their existence. So the greatness of Islam is revealed only when follwers of other religions are humiliated.
Koran 8:12
Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."
Here Mohammed is giving step by step instruction on how to torture and kill Kafirs if they don't follow Islam.
Koran 9:5
"Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."
In the above verse Prophet Mohammed is clearly instructing his followers to kill the idolators in any brutal way possible until the idolators submit themselves to Islam. Allah is indeed merciful !!
Koran 9:73
Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their Home: an evil fate.
Here Mohammed is trying to justify his brutal acts. He conveniently claims divine justification for the expression of his hatred by saying Allah himself revealed to him personally that people of other religions are evil and belong in Hell. Therefore, according to Mohammed any barbaric act against the unbelievers is completely justified.
Koran 4:144
Believers, do not choose the unbelievers rather than the faithful as your friends. Would you give Allah a clear proof against yourselves ?
This verse clearly states that a Muslim can only befreind a Muslim. Mohammed in order to ensure that his followers will not befriend and get influenced by people of other religions, revealed this verse. This verse illustrates that if a Muslim befriends a Non-Muslim than the wrath of Allah will be on him. Therefore in Islam, people of other religions should be treated with contempt,disrespect and cruelty.
Koran 47:4
When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens.
In the above verse, Mohammed is giving detailed instruction about how to maim and torture unbelievers in Jihad. And finally when the Muslims are satisfied enough after torturing and maiming the unbelievers, they should proceed to demand ransom for the captives. All for the sake for all-merciful Allah !!
Koran 5:33-34
The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, merciful.
In this verse, Mohammed devises another recipe for torturing unbelievers. This particular recipe involves chopping off alternate limbs and expelling the Kafirs (people following other religions) out of the land.

Instructions to Muslims regarding Christians and Jews
Prophet Mohammed has reserved special position for certain sects of Unbelievers in his so called "Holy Book" Koran. Those unbelievers are none other than followers of Christianity and Judaism. I have selected few verses from Koran to display what Muslims are taught and instructed as far as treating Christians and Jews is concerned.
Koran 5:51
Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrong-doers.
In this verse Prophet Mohammed is clearly instructing his followers never to befriend a Christian or a Jew. Because if they take a Christian or a Jew as a friend, they will commit a wrong deed and Allah's wrath will be on them.
Koran 5:57
Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you, who have made your religion a jest and a pasttime...
Here "those who were given the Book before you" refers to Christians and Jews. Once again Mohammed is warning Muslims of all time never to befriend a Christian or a Jew.
Koran 5:64
The Jews say: 'God's hand is chained.' May their own hands be chained! May they be cursed for what they say!...
In the above verse Prophet Mohammed is showing his deep respect for the Jews.
Koran 9:29
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued.
Here 'People of the Book' refers to Christians and Jews. The 'Religion Of Truth' refers to Islam. So in the above verse Prophet Mohammed is instructing Muslims to fight and torture Christians and Jews (who do not believe in Islamic version of God) until they pay tax to Muslims for their existence. Muslims are also strictly instructed to make the Christians and Jews feel 'subdued'. Allah is truly benign !!!
Koran 9:30
The Jews call 'Uzayr-a son of God', and the Christinas call 'Christ the Son Of God'. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but intimate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are decluded away from the Truth.
Here Prophet Mohammed is wishing that Allah's curse be on Jews and Christians. And what did the Christians and Jews do for such special favour from Allah ? All they did is that out of respect and love, they called their Prophets 'son of God'.

Islamic Hell and Unbelievers
Now we will enter the Islamic Hell brought into existence by Mohammed's hallucination and weird imagination.
Koran 98:1-8
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.
Here "People of The Book" refers to Christians and Jews. So according to Prophet Mohammed, Christians, Jews and pagans are the vilest of all creatures in the world. Islam in deed holds a high respect for people of other religions !!
Koran 22:19-22:23
Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Sclading water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: 'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'
Here Mohammed has imagined vividly how people of other religions will be punished in Hell. By his sick and disgusting imagination, he is trying to make sure that people of other religions convert to Islam out of sheer terror of Hell. And if this terror doesn't work, then the Muslims are always instructed to convert unbelievers to Islam brutally by force in Jihad.
Koran 18:28-30
For the wrongdoers We have prepared a fire which will encompass them like the walls of a pavilion. When they cry out for help they shall be showered with water as hot as molten brass, which will scald their faces. Evil shall be their drink, dismal their resting-place.
Who are the "wrong-doers" here ? None other than the people who DO NOT follow Islam. So Prophet Mohammed here continues with his hallucination and gives the description of Islamic Hell in the form of a revelation.
Koran 40:67-40:73
Do you not see how those who dispute the revelation of God turn away from the right path ? Those who have denied the Book and the message We sent through Our apostles shall realize the truth hereafter: when, with chains and shackles round their necks, they shall be dragged through scalding water and then burnt in the fire of Hell.
Prophet Mohammed here explains what will happen to those people who choose NOT to follow his revelation "Quran"- a manual of plunder, rape and murder. So for people of other religions following scriptures other than Quran, Allah has pre-planned punishment. First they shall be dragged through scalding water with chains around their necks and then they will be burnt in the fire of Hell. Allah is truly merciful !!
Koran 43:74
..The unbelievers shall endure forever the torment of Hell. The punishment will never be lightened, and they shall be speechless with despair. We do not wrong, themselves.
Mohammed was not satisfied by just having burnt the unbelievers once in Hell. So here he is saying that the punishment is never-ending and people following other religions will be burnt in Hell forever.
Koran 55:41-52
..That is the Hell which the unbelievers deny. They shall wander between fire and water fiercely seething. Which of your Lord's blessing would you deny ?
Koran 76:1-5
For the unbelievers We have prepared chains and fetters and a blazing Fire...
Koran 73:12
We have in store for the unbelievers heavy fetters and a blazing fire, choking food and harrowing torment: on the day when the earth shall quiver with all its mountains, and the mountains crumble into heaps of shifting sand.
Once again, in the above verses, Mohammed is emphasizing that heavy fetters, choking food and hell fire are in store for the unbelievers while the Muslims enjoy the beautiful virgins and young boys in Islamic Paradise.
Koran 77:20-77:50
Woe on that day to the disbelievers! Begone to the Hell which you deny! Depart into the shadow that will rise high in three columns, giving neither shade nor shelter from the flames, and throwing up sparks as huge as towers, as bright as yellow camels...Eat and enjoy yourselves awhile. You are wicked men..."
In the above verse, Prophet Mohammed is making sure that the people of other religions do not get any shade or shelter when they are burnt up in the Islamic Hell. Allah is also revealing to him that all people other than Muslims are basically wicked in nature.
Koran 8:73
The unbelievers give aid and comfort to each other. If you fail to do likewise, there will be disorder in the land and great corruption.
The Great Mohammed divided the Arabian society in two tight compartments: Momins and Kafirs. The word momin means believer in Mohammed and Allah. In contrast a kafir is a non-believer. The momins did not have to be better men than the Kafirs in terms of character or consciousness. Momins had only to recite the Kalima (incantation)- "there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his Prophet." By doing that the 'momins' become qualified to kill as many kafirs as they could or pleased, looting and burning their belongings and enslaving their women and children in the process. In the above verse, Prophet Mohammed once again is telling his followers to help each other in banning up against unbelievers (people of other religions)
Koran 21:96-21:101
..The unbelievers shall stare in amazement, crying: 'Woe to us! Of this we have been heedless. We have done wrong.' You and your idols shall be the fuel of Hell; therein you sall all go down.
This verse is another instance which displays the deep respect Islam shows towards other religions. Here Prophet Mohammed is stating that people who choose to represent God by idols will be burnt in hell along with their idols. Islam is truly compassionate towards other religions !!
Koran 33:7-12
...But for the unbelievers He has prepared a woeful punishment...
Here, we find the same old blabbering by Mohammed once again regarding how unbelievers will be punished.
Koran 44:40-49
..The fruit of the Zaqqum tree shall be the unbelievers's fruit. Like dregs of oil, like scalding water, it shall simmer in his belly. A voice will cry: 'Seize him and drag him into the depths of Hell. Then pour out scalding water over his head, saying: "Taste this, illustrious and honourable man! This is the punishment which you have doubted."
Koran 52:1-52:15
..On that day they shall be sternly thrown into the fire of Hell, and a voice will say to them: 'This is the Fire which you denied...Burn in its flames. It is the same whether or not you show forbearance. You shall be rewarded according to your deeds.'
Koran 31-37
And burn ye him in the blazing fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits. This was he that would not believe in allah Most high amd would not encourage the feeding of the indignant. So no friend hath he here this day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds.
Koran 56:52-56
Ye shall surely taste of the tree Zaqqum. Then will ye fill your insides therwith, and drink boiling water on top of it. Indeed ye shall drink like diseased camels raging with thirst. Such will be their entertainment on the day of Requital!
Koran 69:30-37
We shall say: 'Lay hold of him and bind him. Burn him in the fie of Hell, then fasten him with a chain seventy cubits long. For he did not believe Allah the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Today he shall be friendless here; filth shall be his food, the filth which sinners eat...
The above five verses contain detail description of various kinds of punishments people of other religions will undergo in Islamic Hell. They display the true respect Prophet Mohammed had for people who were not following Islam. And through these verses, Koran (the manual for plunder, rape and murder)which is treated as a timeless scripture by Muslims, teaches how lowly people of other religions should be treated by Muslims regardless of time or space.
Koran 2:39
Those who reject faith shall be the companions of the Fire.
Koran 2:89-90
The curse of Allah is on the unbelievers... humiliating is the punishment.
Koran 13:13
..He hurls his thunderbolts at whom he pleases Yet the unbelievers wrangle about Allah..
Koran 58:5
Those who resist Allah and his messenger will be humbled to dust.
Koran 70:15-16
The fire of Hell will pluck out his being right to the skull..
Koran 5:10
As for those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, they are the heirs of Hell.
The summary of the above six verses is that a person follwing any religion other than Islam, is automatically assigned to Hell. His good thoughts, good actions or peity are of no value until and unless he follows Islam. So if in this life, a person does not follow Islam and does not believe in Islamic scripture, Allah will store Hell-Fire, Hot water, Molten brass, thunderbolts and other humiliating punishments in the life hereafter for him.
Koran 70:39
We have created the unbelievers out of base matters.
So here Prophet Mohammed claims that all the people of other religions are basically useless and evil because they are made up of base matters. But the same people become Allah's favourite and become capable of earning Houris and young boys when they convert to Islam.
NOTE: The Koranic verses have been taken from works of Abdullah Yusuf Ali and N.J. Dawood

Moosh_geer jaan:

What you have quoted here is not Islam, but basic human trait and intuitive characteristics. These principles had been stated at least 2000 years before Islam. You don’t have to swallow so much more (like Ghelmaan and virgins in heaven) to be a human being. Have you read the part of the Koran, when Mohammad is accused of repeating Salmaan Farsi’s words, where the aayeh states that this language is Arabic and not the language of the person mentioned and so he could not possibly have contributed?

Here is the aayeh:

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Y: We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.

P: And We know well that they say: Only a man teacheth him. The speech of him at whom they falsely hint is outlandish, and this is clear Arabic speech.

S: And certainly We know that they say: Only a mortal teaches him. The tongue of him whom they reproach is barbarous, and this is clear Arabic
tongue.

Since you have read the Koran with an open heart and have read those good words in it, that you quote, it would be better if you could find the right Surehs and print them for everyone to see, and I’ll continue printing what I believe to be the words of a very common and not that sophisticated a man. I hope by “open heart” you don’t mean closed mind. How does the oppression of the Islamic Republic and the support out good Moslems lend it, figure into this?

Here are some more words of wisdom:

Mohammad's wife, Hafseh, went to see her father Omar one day and Mohammad started his business with Hafseh's slave (kaneez) when hafseh returned. Mohammad asked her not to tell anyone and Hafseh immediately informed Ayesheh, Mohammad's favorite wife. These aayehs then descended from the heavens.

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Y: When the Prophet disclosed a matter in confidence to one of his consorts, and she then divulged it (to another), and Allah made it known to him, he confirmed part thereof and repudiated a part. Then
when he told her thereof, she said, "Who told thee this?" He said, "He told me Who knows and is well-acquainted (with all things)."

P: When the Prophet confided a fact unto one of his wives and when she afterward divulged it and Allah apprised him thereof, he made known (to her) part thereof and passed over part. And when he told it her she said: Who hath told thee? He said: The Knower, the Aware hath told me.

S: And when the prophet secretly communicated a piece of information to one of his wives-- but when she informed (others) of it, and Allah made him to know it, he made known part of it and avoided part; so when he informed her of it, she said: Who informed you of this? He said: The Knowing, the one Aware, informed me.

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Y: If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and Gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who
believe,- and furthermore, the angels - will back (him) up.

P: If ye twain turn unto Allah repentant, (ye have cause to do so) for
your hearts desired (the ban); and if ye aid one another against him (Muhammad) then lo! Allah, even He, is his Protecting Friend, and Gabriel and the righteous among the believers; and furthermore the
angels are his helpers.

S: If you both turn to Allah, then indeed your hearts are already inclined (to this); and if you back up each other against him, then surely Allah it is Who is his Guardian, and Jibreel and the believers
that do good, and the angels after that are the aiders.

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Y: It may be, if he divorced you (all), that Allah will give him in exchange consorts better than you,- who submit (their wills), who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship
(in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast,- previously married or virgins.

P: It may happen that his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your stead wives better than you, submissive (to Allah), believing, pious, penitent, devout, inclined to fasting, widows and maids.

S: Maybe, his Lord, if he divorce you, will give him in your place wives better than you, submissive, faithful, obedient, penitent, adorers, fasters, widows and virgins.