Ali Sanaei's Blog

RE: ARe you a reasonable man?

I'm not, but I doubt if you are so.

What you said about Americans is actually what you (and I) wish to be! But I'm afraid to say it isn't true.

US lied to the world, including its very own people about Iraq's WMD. Do you want to call that part of freedom of speech?!! They started an unwanted war not because of peace, but only for pure secular purposes.

ARe you a reasonable man?

I don't think so. You make assumptions about the Americans culture because you have bias. look at what happens to a famous comedian who says a bad word about blacks. He is ostracized by everyone. The America you describe is from the fifties. You have formed an opinion and you aren't able to adjust to the new circumstances. That is the Iranian way. I have known and lived with Iranians for 35 years and I know how they think. I am not a Mr. either.

There have been numerous articles on this site where Iranians have expressed their disdain for Arabs, Jews, and Americans. What I want you to consider is by looking down on others, you lower yourself. When you have to claim superiority, you appear to have an inferiority complex to others. Iranians appear to have a national sickness. No one can negotiate or deal fairly with them until Iranians see there is something very wrong.

I only continued my end of the discussion because you genuinely wanted to understand. You don't understand that the US wants to help people and that we do help people. We don't want to be policemen, but look at what happens in Rwanda when we fail to act. We tried to help the starving in Somalia and our soldiers were slaughtered while they were bringing in food. This isn't about oil or empire. It's about trying to help others. Iran helps...it hands out weapons and bombs to people that act as agents. It didn't work for the US with Saddam or bin Laden. Why does Iran think this is the way to go?

RE: I think this is interesting.

- Last time you said you will step out of this discussion. So happy you haven't. Thanks.

- I didn't insult anyone. I usually don't. And no, I don't think stating that Iranians are better than Americans is any kind of insult. And happy your assumption is now a fact.

- Well, I have friends from all over the world too, on both cyber space and real world. I act with all them equally too. Even if you have a look to my coment responses, I've accused those who insult Arabs or any other race.

- The American culture respects races outside and then are against them inside. It's somehow same in UK, Europe, Australia, etc. They have lots of lovely nice regulation against discrimination all fooling everyone well.

- Mr. American; I wonder who you care for more, Iranian or Americans. I don't want Iranians to be known bad in any respect. But there are some things that are known bad by some cultures and not by some others. However, whenI say Iranians are better than Americans, it's in terms of their genuine culture, history, religious, politics, behaviour, IQ, etc etc. I'm free to express my personal idea, right?

- Not me, nore the Iranian government wants anyone to be killed innocently. By the way, the slogan is"death to america" not americaN, are you cheatin on yourself?! there's a huge difference here. The government has clearly declared that they mean the american government.

- Iran is only defending its natural and obvious rights.

- You want my American friends' names? I don't mind, would you like my British, Aussie, German, French, Arab, etc friends too? Because I think we're better than them too.

I think this is interesting.

You thank me for not insulting when your whole discussion is an insult to Americans. You stated that Iranians ARE better than Americans. Do you not think that that statement is a huge insult to Americans? I said that the problem that I have is that Iranians think this way and you confirmed that my assumption was correct.

As Americans, we don't feel that one ethnic group is "better" than another. I have Irish, African American, Iranian, Italian, Puerto Rican and Sioux Indian relatives. We are all the same, In the American culture it a huge cultural taboo to say that you are better than someone else. That kind of thinking comes from the KKK. Do you want Iranians to be associated with that kind of thought?

We don't have an empire. We don't want an empire. I think the problem with Iranians is that you would like your empire back. Killing Americans is your hope for a future? That's what you leaders think. "Death to American!!!" We can't ignore the rhetoric anymore.

Would you please give me the names of any American friends that you have? I would like to inform them that you are better than them. I think that would give them a good laugh.

RE: Mossedegh

- Thank you for not insulting this time. It's a significant improvement.

- Maybe you could tell us which books you've read about Mosaddegh and possibly 28th Mordad.

- Make me clear, I'm a bit dense. Because some Iranians such as a Savaki's wife wanted Shah, all people wanted Shah back? and then you know this as a sign of logic?!

- Mosaddegh had some problems with Kashani, but he gained his initial success with his help. However, Mosaddegh started becoming week after time by not paying attention to the clerics influence on 'people' and also becoming flexible to West and the Shah!

- Do you think Mosaddegh had the stop US? Would you say why? And also do us a favour and answer the questions you asked, because I don't know the answer.

- Well this seems to be more blind and also childish to argue that the Iran-Iraq war was to only to cover the governments act on clearing oppositions! ... How logic Iranian are!

- How do you know I/we won't home? how do you know we don't have the will to change Iran? My/our "change" is different from your "change", but it's still a change...

- I wonder who's not brave? Maybe those who escaped the country and are sitting far away shouting "Lengesh Kon".

- I mentioned Mosaddegh's case an example and a case of study, not to complain. He made mistakes and now we've learnt from it, hopefully.

- I'm here to learn. thanks. 

Mossedegh

I have read numerous books on the Mossedegh issues. A hand full of dollars and a couple of CIA agents were able to take over the nation of Iran. Does that make sense to you? Iranians changed that government. Iranians who wanted power, money, and influence. I met the wife of a general in Savak years ago. She loved the Shah and was very happy that the Shah had regained the monarchy. Iranians love logic. Why can't they see this fact?

Mossedegh had the same problems with the clerics that that Shah had. I think he was just worn out and when he was given the opportunity to step down he did. Mossedegh had the power to call his supporters into the streets and stop a hand full of CIA agents. Why didn't he? What Iranians stood in the way of Demcracy in 1953?

I don't understand why Iranians lock into one idea and fail to analyze the circumstances of events.

The Shah put clerics in jail and expelled them from Iran. The clerics were going to overthrow the Shah and he knew it.

The Iran Iraq War was a convenient cover for the cleansing of all democratic, communistic, and socialistic parties in Iran. Bush has done similar things here. Have a war and eliminate freedoms at home. Don't you see this? It's so obvious.

I'll step away from this discussion, but there is no hope for understanding when you blindly blame the US for your problems in Iran. You have to look at your own history and see that Iranians have gained wealth and power by killing and inprisoning other Iranians in the past 30 years. How many people have died so that the clerics can have power?

I remember the discussions from the 1970s of Iranians in the US. They are still "bitching," but they don't have the gumption to do something about their concerns.

You won't go home because you don't have the will to change Iran. You are not brave men so you will never have the right to democracy and freedom. So sit in your Beverly Hills mansions and complain about 1953. It will do a lot of good....

RE: I could have spent time on this...

Insulting is not the right thing to do, but nothing is wrong with criticising. Even if you're a foreigner!

don't get sicker, but Iranians ARE better than Americans!

Iranians are angry of Americans too and this started way earlier after US coup on Mosaddegh's government, then planning the Noje coup, Iraq war, etc etc. what makes you care about americans angriness more than iranians?

Imam Khomeini:

به امریکا بگوئید از دست ما عصبانی باشد و از این عصبانیت بمیرد

You may start insulting as you usually do... doesn't matter mate! go on, evacuate your self...

RE: American

woohoo, calm down mate! thanks for the comment though.

It's interesting, people here all invite eachother to read more books! but sometimes, I wish they don't read any more books as it will just add to their stupidity based on fake facts!

RE: US will emploed from within

You're right, but external environment has its influences anyway. Something like Soviet Union maybe, Internal+External.

RE: Welcome Brother

are you tryin to be sacratic?!

RE: This just indicates your ignorance.

If you are under control of the American propaganda, it doesn't mean everyone must be under control of others too!

Besides, I don't care about the insults. I guess already know this tiny infortune portion of the Iranian society.

I'm here to learn. 

I could have spent time on this...

but it's just not worth it. Look, if you are sick of people telling you to go back to Iran, then you really should look at the reasons that they are saying it. Why would you expect to enter someone's home and insult them daily? Is that the Persian way?

I have no other place to return to and I like it here. I don't watch Fox and I am not pro Bush. I am just sick of Iranians thinking that they are better than Americans. Go can say anything you want to say so just let me tell you that Americans will get angrier and angrier with Iranians. It started with the hostage taking, which I assume everyone here supports.

No one understands why people like you are here. This is not your home and you don't like living here. Go back to Iran.

RE:American

Hey can't answer and come up with a smart response? Do you instead tell people to leave?
I think you should leave. Who the hell are you? Anyone who is pro war and Nazi mentality is now an American? Since when? Since the idiot Bush? Fuck you little shit. You leave. My taxes probably is more than you make in a few years, so you leave ass hole. This is as much my country as it is yours and I don't agree with you. I think Israel is better for you, since they are semi fascist and all think the same, like robots. Go there so called American. bache susul. Hey if idiots like you didn't vote for Bush the America would be still great. But do you have balls to wear a T shirt with American Flag on it going out of this country? why the hell do you think that is? People like you are sick and you want others to leave so bunch of losers like you remain in this land? I don't think so, YOU LEAVE. I am sick of hearing idiots like you trying to make a point by saying stupid shit like what you say. America is going down because of your type not the author or people like myself. So if you leave we will rebuild this nation to greatness that it deserves. Now shut up and go read some books or watch other things than fox news (Or fat limbough), the next time before stinking up the room with your stupidity.

US will emploed from within

That is my theory. US's end will not come with an external threat such as a military force, etc., but, it will come because of incompetence of its leader and internal breakdown of the system of laws. We are already seeing that the process has begun!

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Welcome Brother

Welcome to your brother's site. You have a right place to look for more Bed'at among Muslims!

Alah Akbar, Khomeini Rabar!

Mohamad Javid

This just indicates your ignorance.

Go back to Iran.... It's so frustrating to welcome people who just insult you daily.

Honestly, go home...be under the control of the mullahs.