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Shamloo

Mr. Abarmard,

It is unfair when you talk from Shamloo. He was a intellectual and a patriotic enough to reject the last dictatorial regimes in Iran. His poems were significantly protesting against the their rule.

Please do not mention Shamloo’s name to get a free pass for your pro-IRI writings.

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چند بار خوندم ولي سر در نميارم!!!يا من زيادي حافظ پرستم يا شعر زيادي  خارجكيه...چه كنم؟بچه كه بودم ،تنها اثر ادبي مدرن كه مي اومد خونمون ،مجله خواندنيها بود.بزرگ كه شديم ،افت داشت تو محل و در خونه ،حرف از اين چيزاي مدرن بزنيم .يه بار پرسيديم:بابا مسلمونا ،اين شاملو كي بود؟فروغ كي مرد؟از اخوان ثالث چه خبر؟... زدن تو گوشمون و به من گفتن:تف به روي كمونيست و اجنبيت بياد  ،برو بيست بار امن يجيب بخون و بعدش زبوت رو اب بكش..تازه ما بچه شمرون بوديم ،واي به حال جنوب شهريا!!!

Giddup what dpresses you?

I find the modern poetry, especially Shamloo poems very uplifting. It's like a rock song. What is sad about it? What you said is not contradictory to the poems written by the Iranian great poets. If you don't understand them, the problem is not the poems. If you do then I am amazed at your conclusion. Regardless, in Iran there is a sense of social responcibility when it comes to poems, it needs to cover the issues that people struggle with. Would you rather have indian movies shown to the people? The greatness of the poems is that we are not only aware, but know that this will not be the norm. While those who happily celebrate their lack of fortune, similar to the indians, have agreed to tI find the modern poetry, especially Shamloo poems very uplifting. It's like a rock song. What is sad about it? What you said is not contradictory to the poems written by the Iranian great poets. If you don't understand them, the problem is not the poems. If you do then I am amazed at your conclusion. Regardless, in Iran there is a sense of social responsibility when it comes to poems, it needs to cover the issues that people struggle with. Would you rather have Indian movies shown to the people? The greatness of the poems is that we are not only aware, but know that this will not be the norm. While those who happily celebrate their lack of fortune, similar to the Indians, have agreed to the "reality" of their society.
You are going against what is very Iranian. Our culture is not based on suffering, our history is. the reason that Iranian poetry is so strong, is and has been its social context. You can easily search for what you like to read, but the artist who is not a pop artist, sets the stage for those who want to see the truth in the society.
A poet also is not responsible to be your leader or talk like a political figure that makes you excited to run and scream against or for something... Getting up and doing something has nothing to do with this sort of Art, since it does not have to be social, yet it is and our society is the way it is. Would you like a lie?
he "reality" of their society.

You are going against what is very Iranian. Our culture is not based on suffering, our history is. the reason that Iranian poetry is so strong, is and has been its social context. You can easily search for what you like to read, but the artist who is not a pop artist, sets the stage for those who want to see the truth in the society.

A poet also is not responcible to be your leader or talk like a political figure who makes you excited to run and scream against or for something... Getting up and doing something has nothing to do with this sort of Art, since it does not have to be social, yet it is and our society is the way it is. Would you like a lie?

Giddup

was that supposed to be a positive feedback or the type of positive thinking that you're advocating here? why not lead by example?
did you read the rest of the comments?
did you understand them?

you should just continue copy/pasting other people's articles and... nevermind ;-)

قصه نيستم که بگويي I say

I say, I know no common pain, whatever that is, to screem.
I pitty this self imposed despiration and I offer a humble simple remedy but some are to good for their own sake.
The remedy is Giddup and do something positive, the rest will happen. This kind of sherr is only plummeting the young into despair as if they are not already there!
I say, I am niether a story nor a song or a voice or a knowlege, I am the MEANING, Daryab mara by hard work, then youll understand.
LA, i hope there are more of you out there...

Anonymous sorry

Sorry Anonymous, I did not get the poem.

Chera Shamloo.....????

Man chand vaghte pish dar khaneye yeki az doostan yek navare kaset music ghadimi goosh kardam ba sedaye aghayan: "Shajarian va Shamloo". Shajarian mikhand va be hamrahash Shamloo ba sedaye khodash deklameh mikard mesle inke Shamloo in sher ra dar dorane jang e iran o aragh gofte boodeh...janane man barkhiz o beshno bange chavosh...Anak...... man albateh dar on zaman be donya nayamadeh boodam va baad ha ba Name Shamloo Ashena shodam.Be nazare man shadravan aghaye shamloo mare bozorg va door andishi bood va bi shak namash dar tarikhe adabiate iran javdaneh khahad mand. Amma.......kasi midanad chera Shamloo in sher ra gofte???!!!.....

Dear Abarmard

Now that I read the background story, I understand what you meant and can relate to your poem.

By nature, I am not that good with poetry and looking at the subliminal meanings... too much of the left-brainer to get poetry ;-)

I have to also add that now I like it.

IRANdokht

Shamloo says

من درد مشترکم
مرا فرياد کن

Good poem

Abarmard Jan:

I didn't know you were a poet, too! I loved your poem. Thank you for the heart and for the thought.

To Glddup

I completely agree with you,Iranian have always been that way and typically look at a glass and see it as half empty. unfortunately we have a depressed, sad va emem houssiani culture and we see it in our new wave of poets. they use poetic language to remind us of our miserable life that we already know. And it's funny some people admire that.. read the article call....cheghar mardom kharand allaho akbar..

To Explain

I was inspired when I spoke to a friend from Germany seven years ago. He did not have an ideology but worshiped the west. He had many bad memories of Iran and justified his hate for his country.

Seven years later I spoke to him again. He now questions the west and western motives!

The first part is drawn from his attitude, that without a question worships the otherside of the water (west). The taste of home is Iran.

Hope that helps.

Liked it

I liked your poem and I understood it. Thank you.

confused pointless depressed which one is it

You need t cheer up buddyboy!
This stuff is what makes people eat terry yak.
This kind of sherr belongs to ahde daghyanooss.
We need promissing uplifting words, this worse than marssieh khoony.
Where is Sha'er to give us some good karma!?

bahal bood

Kinda got what you meant..kinda didn,t ...but good few lines....

ابرمرد جان

یو لاست می. ایدر ایت گوئز وی اور مای هد اور یو نید تو اد سام مور پانکچوایشن. چاکریم