MUTILATION

ختنه دختران

i have seen this before too, it is in Kordestan of Iraq. fortunately this seldom happens in some parts of Iran.

Re. hendooneh's scientific claims:

So we go by science then:

American Medical Association states, “Virtually all current policy statements from specialty societies and medical organizations do not recommend routine neonatal circumcision...”

British Medical Association states, “…this surgical procedure (circumcision) has medical and psychological risks.”

UNAIDS states that “male circumcision is a voluntary surgical procedure and health care providers must ensure that MEN and YOUNG BOYS are given the necessary information to enable them to make FREE and INFORMED choices either FOR or AGAINST getting circumcised.”

So on the scientific part, I have at least American Medical Association and the British Medical Association as concerned about circumcision, and the UNAIDS recommendation that men and young boys be given necessary information to make a free and informed choice, which is what I said in the beginning.  Why not give the children a chance to grow up and decide for themselves what they want to do with their bodies.

Where is Kurdish Warrior? -cat caught your tongue

Where are you man? Come on, post your comment on this important issue. They're mutilating your "sister" and...:
ye dafeh khafe khun gerefti?!!!!

There is NO evidence male circumcision helps

There are some interesting coincidences, in some cultures who do circumcise, a reduced HIV infection has been observed. This is an interesting observation, but its not a scientific double blind study. In fact among Jewish men who are circumcised, no such benefit is observed. Those African tribes may just frown upon the practice or have a genetic mutation. Repeat there is no scientific study yet that proves it one way or another.
Any mutilation is a barbaric custom.

Thanks to Arab Tradition

لعنت بر محمد و ال کثیفش که با این دین و اداب و رسومش تمام مردم را در کشورهای به زور اسلامی شده بدبخت و بیچاره کرده. حتی بعد از ١٥٠٠ سال مردم هنوز هم باید به اتش این دین و رسومش بسوزند.

همش زیر سر انگلیساست

این توطئه ی بود که انگلیسا در آفریقا شروع کردند. خدا لعنت شون کنه که سوقاتشون برای مردم بدبخت اونجا بهتر از این نمیتونست باشه.

"...because for any of

"...because for any of those limbs I, by myself, can come up with some GOOD reason for doing it."

but they wouldn't be supported clinical studies found in peer-reviewed medical journals (NEJM, The Lancet)

this ain't politics/religion...can't make scientific claims based on emotion and or hubris (thank goodnes)

Sick, that made me simply sick

I read the text and didn't dare to see the images besides the one in the front page.

International laws call the female circumcision, an inhuman treatment and cruel. But, what does this change for little girls in most Islamic countries? Nothing.

That’s a shame.

boys and girls, it makes no difference

You cannot separate mutilation of girls from mutilation of boys.  If there is going to be an argument about whether circumcision is any good or not it has to be all-inclusive.  Mutilation of any kind is a violation of human rights.  If you disagree, then start mutilating figures, hands, feet, tongue… because for any of those limbs I, by myself, can come up with some GOOD reason for doing it.

ok, sorry if i am not making myself clear

I whole-heartedly agree that FEMALE "circumcision" (a euphemism for genital mutilation) is a horrible crime that should be eradicated.

My post was in response to "Multiple Personality Disorder's" claim that there is no benefit to MALE circumcision

i hope we're crystal clear folks

American Medical Association

“Virtually all current policy statements from specialty societies and medical organizations do not recommend routine neonatal circumcision...” American Medical Association.

But once again let’s assume circumcision of boys is a necessary evil to prevent spread of HIV and STD’s, why don’t the PARENTs after they had a number of boys, cut off their own balls and weewees to prevent spread of HIV and STD’s if that’s the reason they’re so concern about.  Oh no, that’s too painful for them, so they choose to mutilate their children.  If they are so concern about the spread of HIV an STDs why do they engage in sex outside a committed sexual relationship?  Why do they engage in anal sex?  Why don’t they invest in some condemn?  Oh no, that’s takes away too much from their pleasure, so the hell with the children!  Let’s just mutilate them!  Is that the logic here?

Thanks God

First I thought it was in Iran. I didn't realize until the Surgeon was counting her money, Iraqi Dinar.
It is so sick and unbelievable. What is the real purpose behind it. Warping the females top to bottom apparently is not enough.

Where is Kurdish Warrior?

Where are you man? Come on, post your comment on this important issue.

Hendooneh

All I have to say don’t mix the two. This practice is designed to CONTROL the women physically and emotionally. This practice is PURE EVIL!!! These little horrified girls could be your Daughter, Sister, Wife, Mother or Yourself!!! **Think ABOUT THAT**

Hendooneh

I know about the medical benefits for males. Maybe I missed your point in bringing up male circumcision, which is medically, religiously and culturally accepted practice in this thread.

This on the other hand, enrages me to no end.

beh gooreh pedaro madareh Saad ibn Vaghass

This is not even Islam...these ommaties%^#&* ...stopped watching past pic 4 .poor little soul... 

btw*Kurds having a big role in Crusades , The custom was brought to western Kurdistan via returning Kurdish warriors in the 1st & 2nd crusade from Fatemite khallifate in Egypt .

indeed ignorance is bliss

this shameful practice is abominable and should most definitely be stopped. however, for those who are saying it, please don't associate this with Islam. this practice predates the Islamic religion and no where in the Qur'an is such an act condoned. even worldwide Islamic scholars agree on this fact and are against it.

MPD

contrary to your supposition, it is HIGHLY recommended that circumcision be done in infantile males as risks are much higher in adult males.

circumcision could be avoided if there was more attention paid to hygiene in young males. unfortunately this is not the case. you can talk all you want about teaching little boys personal hygiene but the fact remains that they don't take care of uncircumcised penis' sufficiently. and once your little boy is past the age of YOUR washing him correctly, there is very little control.

studies have proved inconclusive with regard to sexual depreciation.

AI. kurdistan is in iraq. please, no insults. :-)

the bottom line from medical professionals is that circumcision is beneficial but not necessary. a thin line to be sure.

kaveh jan

i agree 100%, this photoessay is heart-wrenching and in a perfect world female circumcision would not exist.It must be eradicated.

but for the uninformed person...male circumcision does have medical benefits.

heres another reference from new england journal of medicine

Castellsague X, Bosch FX, Munoz N, Meijer CJ, Shah KV, de Sanjose S, et
al. Male circumcision, penile human papillomavirus infection, and
cervical cancer in female partners. N Engl J Med 2002;346:1105–12.

Conclusions Male circumcision is associated with a reduced risk of penile HPV infection and, in the case of men with a history of multiple sexual partners, a reduced risk of cervical cancer in their current female partners.

this is sooo terrible

how can they do this to these poor little girls? Female circumcision is absolutely cruel!

At least male circumcision is done for cleanliness. It not only reduces the risks of contracting STDs for men but male circumcision has also been linked to lower rates of cervical cancer in women. In countries were most men are circumcised, the rate of cervical cancer is very low.

Seen these pics before and

Im pretty sure they are not taken in Iran although I cant remember where it was. However where ever it was it is barbaric,and for men too. That poor young girls face. How can any mother put her child through this ordeal? There are many terrible practices agaianst women like foot binding in Japan, suti in India and god knows what else where but for what purpose? The world is an inhumane place. Javaneh

Apples to Oranges

I'm not too keen on male circumcision, even though recently studies seem to be showing that there indeed appears to be a causal relationship been male circumcision and reduced HIV infection. While there are many ways to reduce the spread of HIV and other STDs, the findings of these studies can't be ignored and especially not in countries and populations that are being devasted by AIDS.

However, the need for the commentor here (hendooneh) to bring up male circumcision is odd and I have to say of questionable purpose. This girl and girls are clearly being mutilated. And certainly we can all agree that female reproductive anatomy and male reproductive anatomy are very different. Thus, my title "apples to oranges".

Abolish this Evil deed...

And prosecute the SOB bastards who still practicing it!!!!! I couldn't look at the pictures, the looks of horror and life time of misery that this barbaric practice afflicts on these girls.

Hendooneh

This isn't circumcision of a male.

This is the mutilation of a child's body, the murder of her innocence and the destruction of her psyche.

Unbelievable

The mother says he doesn't know whey she should subject her child to this. But she lies to her child and tells her she's going to a party.

Cradle of Civilization my ass.

ignorance is bliss aint it?

"There is very convincing observational, biological and now clinical trial evidence suggesting that male circumcision has a strong protective effect against HIV transmission and acquisition. Data from more than 40 studies show that men who are circumcised are less than half as likely to get infected with HIV, and are also less likely to acquire or transmit other sexually transmitted infections. There
is also evidence that their partners have lower rates of HIV, sexually transmitted infections and even cervical cancer."

here is the reference:

United States Agency for International Development (USAID)/AIDSMark. 2003. Male Circumcision: Current Epidemiological and Field Evidence; Program and
Policy Implications for HIV Prevention and Reproductive Health. Conference Report. USAID: Washington, DC.

Whether you choose to ignore it or not...HIV is an epidemic, and to think that using arcane mentalities will prevent transmission is foolish. Shit happens.  and you and the pope swear by coitus interruptus. LAWL!

Its sickening

I could not go through all of them, this is not
defensible either by medical values or moral values. Its purely an evil invention of idiots. I hope they make this practice illegal. I had not heard of it being practiced among Kords (I grew up in Rezayeh) and I hope this stupid practice does not spread to Iran. Notice many customs (like even male circumcison) was spread among moslems from others , even stoning of adulterers was/is not islamic, it is a Jewish law, but its developing its roots in Islamic law.

These pictures brought tears

These pictures brought tears into my eyes! What kind of a custom is this!? I don't care whether it is in Kurdistan or somewhere in the planet! It is atrocious, sickening, revolting and just not acceptable! I am with "Multiple Personality Disorder" when it comes to circumcision, male or female, an old aged dumb relic of a tradition from the past.

Re. hendooneh's HIV & STD comment:

So, let’s say this is correct, which is not, and male circumcision ‘decreases the incidence of HIV and other STDs’, so then good parents who can not raise their children to behave in a responsible manner go ahead and mutilate their boys so they won’t contract STDs when they grow up?!  Is that the logic here?!

And, how long HIV has been around, fifty years?  So, people have been mutilating their children for thousands of years so we get to this point in the history so we don't get HIV?!  Is that the idea? 

And, most STD's are transmitted by irresponsible sexual behavior, not by a foreskin.  Learn more about bacteria and viruses and teach them to your children and let them decide for themselves before you mutilate them. 

It is sick and sick and

It is sick and sick and sick.............
Another crime against women....

which idiotic religion has taught them to do this? Evil bastards burn in hell..........