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MM, Are You Trying to Change the Subject from the CIA and NIAC?

MM: But, the fact is that, in 1979, Bazargan asked Iranians to vote either for the old 1906 Monarchy or an Islamic Republic. Once an Islamic Republic, did you think that the Khomeini and his gang were just going to vacate? No need for "Yes" or "no", in your tradition, since the answer is very obvious.

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MK: After the de facto overthrow of the monarchy, there had to be a referendum to make it de jure. Bazargan wanted the referendum to be between monarchy and "Democratic Islamic Republic." Khomeini said no and insisted on either monarchy or Islamic Republic. Bazargan decided not to fight and not to resist Khomeini. There was the notion that names do not mean much and it would be the content of the constitution.

One could legitimately argue that JM made a huge mistake of deciding not to fight Bazargan and Khomeini at that time.

Many believed that the name of Islamic Republic which was used (and still is used for Pakistan) does not mean theocracy. Today both Afghanistan and Iraq are "Islamic Republics."

There was a real struggle between the fascistic Khomeini and his fascistic supporters on the one side and others (JM, Bazargan, Bani Sadr, leftists, PMOI, etc) on the other. Well, Tudeh Party and Aksariyat sided with Khomeini and against the democratic forces during the crucial struggles Feb 1979 to summer 1981.

It was not predetermined that Khomeini would win. There was a struggle and the fundamentalists won, and the liberals and the left lost.

And my questions on the relationship between Trita Parsi and CIA (which directly relevant to the issue of hand) was earlier than your questions on JM and constitution (which I could not see a direct relationship to the topic of this blog). As far as I am able to determine, there is no relationship between your question on JM and constitution and the topic of this blog. I have no problem providing you with answers and JM’s positions. But it appears to me that you want to divert the subject from the topic of this blog and especially on the relationship between the CIA and NIAC and TP. Here are the sequences of our posts, which clearly and obviously show that my post came before your post.

:-)

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Double Standards

by Masoud Kazemzadeh on Fri Oct 28, 2011 01:31 PM PDT

Dear only Iran,

There is a double standard. It was revealed that Dr. Trita Parsi had SECRET presentations to CIA, and NIAC as an organization considers this routine. Mamads support NIAC-Parsi and has been supporting NIAC since the revelation.

Could someone please explain why secret presentations (apparently for money; I have asked publicly whether Trita Parsi got money from the CIA, and if so, how much, but no official response from NIAC or NIAC’s Internet Response Team)

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Dear JM spokesperson

by MM on Fri Oct 28, 2011 04:08 PM PDT

Thank you for your progress report on the success of JM's Hollywood meeting. It is always nice to see Iranian factions uniting.

Constitution was my original question. U brought in NIAC!!!!

But, the fact is that, in 1979, Bazargan asked Iranians to vote either for the old 1906 Monarchy or an Islamic Republic.  Once an Islamic Republic, did you think that the Khomeini and his gang were just going to vacate?  No need for "Yes" or "no"? ending, in your tradition, since the answer is very obvious.

good night.

MM, Are You Trying to Change the Subject from the CIA and NIAC?

btw, this the whole paragraph that you quoted:

The government is based upon the Constitution that was approved in a national referendum in December 1979. This republican Constitution replaced the 1906 constitution, which, with its provisions for a shah to reign as head of state, was the earliest constitution in the Middle East. Soon after the Revolution, however, on March 30 and 31, 1979, the provisional government of Mehdi Bazargan asked all Iranians sixteen years of age and older to vote in a national referendum on the question of whether they approved of abolishing the monarchy and replacing it with an Islamic republic. Subsequently, the government announced that a 98- percent majority favored abrogating the old constitution and establishing such a republic. On the basis of this popular mandate, the provisional government prepared a draft constitution drawing upon some of the articles of the abolished 1906 constitution and the French constitution written under Charles de Gaulle in 1958. Ironically, the government draft did not allot any special political role to the clergy or even mention the concept of velayat-e faqih.

In other words, the provisional government's proposed constitution was very much like the 1958 French constitution. 

The constitution which was proposed was a very good constitution. The proposed constitution was in fact a very democratic and secular constitution.

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the 1979 constitution that JM/INF supports: Islamic Republic????

MK said: "JM supportd the constitution that the provisional government proposed in 1979.  It was an excellent constitution."

The following is what I found on the 1979 constitution of the interim government of Iran which JM/INF still supports, according to MK.

"The government is based upon the Constitution that was approved in a national referendum in December 1979. This republican Constitution replaced the 1906 constitution, which, with its provisions for a shah to reign as head of state, was the earliest constitution in the Middle East. Soon after the Revolution, however, on March 30 and 31, 1979, the provisional government of Mehdi Bazargan asked all Iranians sixteen years of age and older to vote in a national referendum on the question of whether they approved of abolishing the monarchy and replacing it with an ISLAMIC REPUBLIC."

http://countrystudies.us/iran/81.htm

I certainly agree w/ Karim M. comment's last paragraph

Very well said, Sir.

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A good project could be to see all opposition organizations getting together and acting democratically to draft a constitution that they could suggest to iranian people for their consideration. Is the Iranian opposition outside Iran mature enough yet to do something like that?

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On Constitutional Design

http://www.ghandchi.com/iranscope/Anthology/Kazemzadeh/constitution.htm

I actually teach a graduate course on democracy and democratization, which covers constitutional design. Maybe I should post my syllabus (in its own blog). 

the link to constitution of provisional government in 1979?

what is the link to the constitution to the provisional government proposed in 1979? 

NIAC not able to answer these simple questions??????

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Before you spend too much time writing that constitution...

Sorry to say this, but JM itself is nothing now but a group of old men. I don't think they should be writing anything for a country that has 70% of its population around the age of 30. The good Jebheh Melli people I speak to actually concede that they have failed to attract young people to their organization.

As for your organization, most unfortunately, the Jebheh Melli folks I speak to do not have a high regard for it, and they believe that your organization's chances for attracting and recruiting young members are even smaller.

A good project could be to see all opposition organizations getting together and acting democratically to draft a constitution that they could suggest to iranian people for their consideration. Is the Iranian opposition outside Iran mature enough yet to do something like that?

Dear MK - You forgot your world-famous "yes" or "no"? ending

You forgot your world-famous "yes" or "no"? ending at the end of your student questionnaires this time.  We have been through this issue many times now.  IC, is not your classroom, and we are not your students.  Your tactic, very well-know now, is to get some answers, and then make more endless questions from bona fide answers.  Even IC-beloved Mrs Shifteh Ansari was not immune from your questionnaire assault which she also rightfully ignored (http://www.iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/ms-shifteh-ansari-questions-pmoi-and-niac)! 

VPK, whatever a virtual Embassy may be, it is also the

beginning of a relationship. You know about how if you cook a frog slowly he would not jump out of the pot.  

We are the frog :).

Questions on Dr. Trita Parsi, NIAC, and the CIA

MM,

Could you PLEASE provide us the official NIAC responses to the following questions:

1. How many times did Dr. Trita Parsi meet with the CIA?

2. Did Dr. Parsi receive money from the CIA?

3. If Dr. Parsi did get money from the CIA, how much money was given to Trita Parsi by the CIA (in total)?

4. Did Dr. Trita Parsi tell Javad Zarif that he provided talks to the CIA?

5. If Dr. Parsi informed Javad Zarif about his talks with the CIA, did Parsi tell Zarif before or after his talks with the CIA?

Thank you very much for your time and efforts in providing NIAC’s official responses.

Thanks,

Masoud

JM-INF and the Future Constitution

MM,

JM supportd the constitution that the provisional government proposed in 1979.  It was an excellent constitution.  There was elections for president and Majles.  There was no speical positions for clerics.  No position on vf, no Shoray Negahban, No Khobregan.

Unfortunately many on left opposed it and Khomeini was convinced by his supporters to add the horrible vf garbage into the constitution.  To theri credit, Ayatollah Taleghani and Bani Sadr who were in the khobregan opposed the vf features of the constitution.

Today, JM-INF do not have our own constitution for Iran.  My own opinion, is that JM-INF should write the best constitution possible for Iran and present it to other groups and the Iranian people.  I have bene trying to convince my colleagues.  They think the constitution should be written by the constitutional assembly by the freely elected representatives of the people. 

I hope this is helpful.

Masoud

An Iranian-American vs. Iranian organization

I, along with others, have responded on the issue of talking with the American government. 

NIAC, as a "respected" representative of an Iranian-American organization (whether 10 members or 10,000 members) gets invited to talk / consult with the White House, The Congress and the other American organizations, regardless of if it is the Salvation Army, the FBI or the CIA.  And, NIAC has not hidden this fact.  A representative of an independent Iranian faction, on the other hand, is different regardless of MEK, JM or .....

responses to Mammad

1. Those who use the slogans "Esteghlal, Azadi, Jomhuri IRANI," "Naa Sharghi, Naa Gharbi, Jomhuri IRANI," are explicitly saying they oppose the VF regime and VF constitution, and want a secular democratic republic. The main political party/organization that has been advocating these demands has been the JM.

The hard-line factions of the fundamentalist oligarchy do not say these. The reformist factions of the fundamentalist oligarchy (Khatami, Mousavi, Karrubi) do not oppose the constitution of velayat faghih. They have stated that they want Jomhuri ISLAMI, whereas all those on the streets of Iran who say that want Jomhuri IRANI are against the nezam vf.

Of course there are other groups that also have began embracing JM’s demands for independence, freedom, and secular republic. This is wonderful and we welcome them and we embrace them. The more people accept JM’s demands for democracy and separations of state and religion the better it is.

In the first Majles election, neither Peykar, nor Fadaian, nor Tudeh won a single seat. As a matter of FACT 5 members of JM won elections. They included Dr. Sanjabi from Kermanshah, Dr. Ali Ardalan from outskirts of Kermanshah, and Dr. Madani from Kerman. Khosrow Qashqai also won his seat and was close to JM.

In my opinion, you are wrong. I am in contact with many young people inside Iran and they are very bright and they know Jebhe Melli Iran very very well.

In my opinion, our founder and leader Dr. Mossadegh is the most popular leader in Iran. We are willing to compare him to any other leader in 20th and 21st century Iran.

Here is my blog on my assessment on the possible popularity of various groups in Iran:

http://www.iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/what-do-iranians-want

2. JM has a long history of commitment to democracy, freedom, and human rights. This is simply lacking among ALL other main groups (supporters of Khomeini, Marxist-Leninists, monarchists). The FACT that I can point to a 60+ year history of such democratic commitment and actual winning of election is simply lacking among others.

People can and do TRUST that JM will NOT torture, assassinate, execute, other groups that oppose it. This can NOT be said about others such as hard-liners, Khatami, Mousavi, Karrubi, PMOI, Fadaian, etc.

The few other pro-democracy groups are also close to us and work with us.

3. See my answer in 1.

4. That is false. When people are afraid, they will not come out. The terrorist regime will kill them. Mousavi and Karrubi have been under house arrest since February and there has been no major public demonstration. This does NOT mean that Khamanei and Ahmadinejad are popular and Mousavi and Karrubi are unpopular. This means that the people do not want to be killed, tortured, raped, fired from their jobs, expelled from universities, etc.

The Shah ruled for so long and the absence of public protest was used to say that the Shah is popular and the opposition is weak. You are making the same false argument.

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M: You seem to support military attacks. If you did not, you would not put that in the mix of "strong action."

But, hey, these are my opinion. I could be right or wrong!

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MK: You are WRONG. Strong actions include several policies. I support UN Security Council sanctions on the purchase of crude oil and natural gas from the terrorist regime. I have PUBLICATIONS dating to 1989 on this, which are very clear and explicit.

I do analyze various options and have many many publications on these. In my analysis, analyzing the options for this or that group does NOT mean that I am presenting my policy preference.

Masoud

Mehraban

Does the IRI get to take virtual hostages :-) I am not sure what a virtual embassy is but I guess will find out.

You are right about the "Arab Spring" more like radical Islam autumn.

Still no official JM/INF/... constitution?

After 70 years of existance, it would be preferable to see a constitution from JM/INF.  Or, adopt one from the existing proposed constitutions.

I have to agree that folks on the streets of Tehran were screaming esteghlaal, azaadi, jomhoori-e Irani and not necessarily a JM faction.  Karrubi/Mousavi also blew it by not totally opposing this regime by calling to overthrow the IRI. And, people would have.  A lost chance that thaught the IRI a lesson they probably will not forget easily.

PS, did you say something, Mehrban? Yes, we should limit responses to 3 paragraphs, at most.

VPK the writing is on the wall (as far as I can see)

All countries of the Arab Spring have gone to the Islamists and US is going to open a virtual "EMBASSY" for Iran.  The programs of VOA and BBC as far as I can see are sort of lukewarm and never really against IR.  

Not too many IR supporters here.   I don't think it has much to do with IC policies. 

On Mousavi's Representative Being Called Another "Chalabi"

M:

Yes, I will call him Chalabi

by Mammad on Fri Oct 28, 2011 06:27 PM PDT

If Amir Arjomand tries to talk to State Department, yes, I consider him another Chalabi,

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MK:

1. Could you please contact Trita Parsi and Amir-Arjomand and simply ask them whether or not they went and met U.S. government officials? Fair?

2. Could you please explain why talking to the CIA (and perhaps getting money for it) does not make Dr. Trita Parsi another Chalabi, but talking to the State Department makes one another Chalabi?

3. While you are talking to Trita Parsi, could you also ask him whether or not he received money from the CIA, and if he did, how much?

I look forward to reading your HONEST answers.

Masoud

Regarding people clearing

Definitely there used to be IR supporters who are not here any more. They mostly got banned or shouted down. I do not particularly miss them. But it does mean we don't get the IRI point of view.

Others who are NOT IRI supporters are routinely accused of it. Therefore they often chose to move out. Basically IC is becoming a single voice site. Any voice not meeting the 100% party line is unwelcome. With the new rules it will be official. If you don't follow the party line you are officially banned. No pretense no varitey just one voice and a chorous of agreement. That is what IC is moving towards. When that happens it will join Fox and other so called fair and balanced media. 

Mehrban jaan

Mehrban jaan,

My bad.  I apologize.

Kind regards,

Masoud

Yes, I will call him Chalabi

If Amir Arjomand tries to talk to State Department, yes, I consider him another Chalabi, although Vahedi wants more than just "talking!" But, just today Amir Arjomand said, "If the Green Movement is born 100 times, it will still be independent of foreign powers. The strength of the movement is that it is home-grown and independent.

Mammad

Vahedi is not Karroubi's representative

He just derives some credibility from it. That is why Esmail Gerami Moghaddam, deputy leader of National Trust Party, Karroubi's party, now often speaks. As the article said, if Vahedi speaks for Karroubi, he must explain how he knows Karroubi's new thinking, because before his house arrest these were not Karroubi's positions, and since the house arrest there has been extremely tight control on him without any communication with outside world.

Regarding the supposed popularity of JM:

1. To claim that people who shouted Freedom, Independence, Iranian Republic are JM supporters is beyond absurd. Who knows JM in Iran? When 70 percent of the population is under the age of 35, during which there has never been any JM activities, you want us to believe that JM is popular? If JM has so many supporters, how many of them are in jail? Thousands were arrested, and about 850 remain in jail. As far as I know one or at most two have been claimed to be JM-relatred prisoners. In contrast, how many of the reformists and nationalist-religious members are in jail now? Almost all the political prisoners belong to these two groups.

2. The very fact that you resort to 1951-53 elections to "demonstrate" support for JM just goes to show how hollow the claim is.

3. In first Majles elections after the Revolution MKO, Fadaian, Nehzat Azadi, clerics, Islamic Republic Party, and even Peykar had candidates that ran. How many candidates did JM have? They could not even put up a full slate of candidates, and this was when people knew JM. I love Dr. Mosaddegh; he is my hero. But, I do not see any relation between what he stood for and what people like you stand for.

4. I have said this many many times and say it again: Anyone or any group outside Iran can test its social base by calling on the people in Iran to come out on streets. Each time Karroubi and Mousavi did that, huge crowds came out. That is credibility, that is support, that is respect.

Support for military attacks:

You seem to support military attacks. If you did not, you would not put that in the mix of "strong action."

But, hey, these are my opinion. I could be right or wrong!

Mammad

Mammad

MK: 

Is Dr. Amir-Arjomand another Ahmad Chalabi as well??????by Masoud Kazemzadeh on Fri Oct 28, 2011 04:47 PM PDT

Mamad,

1. Did you know that Dr. Ardeshir Amir-Arjomand (Mir-Hussein Mousavi's representative aborad) wanted to meet U.S. government officials? And reportedly, he was only able to meet low level U.S. government officials?

http://iraniansforum.com/index.php/washington-insight/285-2011-09-29-20-14-30

2. Hasan Dai alleges that he fond this info during the court discovery process. Trita Parsi and NIAC can either publicly admit this or deny this.

3. Assuming the info is true, would you also call Dr. Amir-Arjomand, "Iran’s Ahamd Chalabi"??????

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M: I would not give any credibility to what a charlatan like Daei says. You want to believe him, be my guest.

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MK: Apparently those who disagree with you are idiots and charlatans. Could you for once use LOGIC and EVIDENCE instead of fohsh and personal attacks. You do not have to accept the words of Mr. Dai. You can call or email Trita Parsi and Amir-Arjomand and simply ask them whether or not they wanted to meet with U.S. government officials and were able to meet U.S. government officials. This is called relying upon EVIDENCE. Then, you could provide your answers to the question I asked.

I would like to ask you to really do this little thing. And after you find out from TP and Arjomand, then make a public statement. On this public forum, you called Mr. Vahedi an "IDIOT" and an Ahmad "Chalabi." If Dr. Ardeshir Amir-Arjomand had actually SECRETLY done what Vahedi TALKS about PUBLICLY and LOGICALLY, then you have to answer at a minimum to your own vojdan.

If there is any MAJOR difference between Vahedi and Amir-Arjomand is that Vahedi is HONEST and talks publicly, but that Dr. Amir-Arjomand is NOT honest and does these things covertly, if these assertions are true.

If you find out that what Mr. Dai has written to be true, and you do NOT publicly on this forum call Dr. Arjomand (the representative of Mir-Hussein Mousavi) the same thing, that is YOU, Mammad call Dr. Arjomand an IDIOT, and Iran’s Challabi, then would you agree that this would make you a hypocrite or a charlatan?

I look forward to reading that you have actually contacted Trita Parsi and Amir-Arjomand and after finding out what they say about Mr. Dai’s assertion, that you use the exact same terms for Arjomand that you use for Vahedi (assuming that TP and Arjomand tell you what they did).

I look forward to your HONEST answers.

Masoud

Gosh MK!

You really choked my comment ;).

Before you beat on your chest and smile

What I have said is in no contradiction with that statement. I support NIAC when it does do good, and reject its work when I do not agree with the work.

I have always said this is my philosophy: Support what can be supported, reject what must be rejected, and criticize what should be criticized. I do not have aghd-e okhovvat - brotherhood pact - with anyone.

And stop using your "ameraneh" tone.

I would not give any credibility to what a charlatan like Daei says. You want to believe him, be my guest.

Mammad

Diversion

This is supposed to be a discussion on Mojataba Vahedi. Why does MK have to bring in NIAC. For once I agreed with something MK said. But now he brings NIAC in.

Totally unrelated to the whole discussion. It is sad to see people not have a discussion without harping on their pet peeve. Fine now lets bring all the other things in as well. So that the main issue is totally forgotten by us. I hate to say but am seeing why some people want to limit discussions to relevant points. Now we are going to have a pissing contest between our two great wonderful professors. Not to mention 6 page long posts that will bore any normal human being.

Mamad

M: Three factions of the National Front? As the Persian proverb goes, moorcheh chieh keh kallah paachash baasheh?

MK: When there have been free elections in Iran, JM actually did very well. For example, in 1951-53 in elections for Majles in big cities we won. For example, in free elections, neither Tudeh Party nor the monarchists were able to get any of the 11 seats from Tehran. In 1961-63, our demand was for free elections, and Dr. Ali Amini and the Shah opposed free elections because they were afraid that we would have won the elections in a free vote. Even at the lowest of our popularity in 1980 Majles elections, 5 of our members won their seats, but were not allowed to take their seats because the fascistic Khomeini and his fascistic supporters were afraid of our voices of azadi and democracy.

And after the June 2009 election, who on the streets of Iran was shouting "Esteghlal, Azadi, Jomhuri IRANI"??????? Were they the supporters of the reformists or the supporters of establishing a secular democratic republic like JM????????????

And those who used the slogans: "Marg bar asl Velayat Faghih" "Naa Sharghi, Naa Gharbi, Jomhuri IRANI"??????

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M: Does MK still believe in the principles? Does he still oppose military attacks? Apparently not.

MK: I oppose military attacks now as I did in 2003. I support full sanctions on purchase of oil from the terrorist regime now as in 2003 as in 1989 (after the war ended).

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M: In an article published in a Turkish website,

http://www.turkishweekly.net/op-ed/2896/the-plot-t...

MK called for "strong action" by the U.S. and Saudi Arabia to the alleged plot by Qods force to kill Saudi Arabia's ambassador to Washington.

MK: The passages you quoted from my analysis, was my analysis on the policies of the U.S. and Saudi Arabia. I was NOT presenting my own opinions or policy preferences!!!!!!!! One may argue that my analysis is right or wrong. But in those passages I was NOT presenting my own policy preferences.

I do advocate strong response. My policy preference is UN Security Council sanctions on the purchase of oil and natural gas from the terrorist regime modeled after the sanctions on the racist apartheid regime in South Africa.

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M: First of all, I have already responded to Vahedi's nonsense in the past. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbure...

So, this is nothing new

MK: I will read your article, and if I agree and/or disagree with it, I will post my opinions in a later post.

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M: He calls for collaboration and working with the U.S., and distinguishes that from U.S. intervention. That is idiotic, because how will someone or some group that deals with the U.S. "might" can actually separate the two?

MK: The ANC had representatives to many governments around the world (including the U.S.), and they asked these governments to support their cause against the apartheid regime. When they could not get the support of Reagan, they got the support of the U.S. Congress in sanctions.

American revolutionaries asked and received support from the terribly reactionary French government in their struggle to liberate themselves from the British.

From Mamad’s logic, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Nelson Mandela are all idiots who did not distinguish between gaining solidarity and cooperation and intervention in a negative way!!!!!!!!!!

Mamad, a little bit of humility is good!!!!!!!  All those in human history who have followed a different policy than you are NOT idiots.

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M: He says the way it works with the Us.S. must be such that, "to benefit as much as we can, and to make the least concessions." That is idiotic. The U.S. political establishment wants to control oil reserves of the Middle East. Nothing short of it will be enough. Besides, Vahedi - a man who up until a year ago was publishing a low-circulation newspaper in Tehran that no one read (see the article) - has the audacity of thinking that he and others like him can actually carry out such "bedeh bestan" with the U.S.?

MK: So, anyone who negotiates with the U.S. government is idiot. How about Dr. Trita Parsi and NIAC? Do they engage in talks with U.S. government officials??????????

Mr. Vahedi can speak for himself. But as far as I am aware, he is regarded as the representative of Mr. Mehdi Karrubi. Karrubi does have many supporters in Iran.

NIAC has reportedly has apparently only about 600 paid members.

WHO has more "a right" to talk with American officials???????????

Again, anyone who disagrees with Mamad is an IDIOT and who ever is liked by Mamad is not an idiot for doing the same thing!!!!!!!!!!

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M: Even if we assume that (a) and (b) are possible, who is going to do the working, the negotiations, the collaboration, or whatever it is that Vahedi proposes? The last time I looked, no one inside had given any mandate to any Iranian outside Iran to negotiate, work, or whatever with - but not allow intervention by - the U.S. That is why I call these people Ahmad Chalabis wanna be! They have taken upon themselves to represent Iran and Iranians; people like Vahedi, Sazegara, Nourizadeh, etc.

MK: In my opinion, no one represents the views of Iranians. We are soooooooo divided and fractured, that no one group represents the views of a large majority of Iranian people. Each person or group could represent their own views and those who they believe are their social base.

Mr. Vahedi is reportedly the representative of Mr. Karrubi. Mr. Karrubi represents one faction of the reformists within the Green Movement. Mr. Karrubi and Mousavi (and Khatami) represent the reformist fundamentalist faction.

In a free and democratic election, we could find out which group represents what percentage of the Iranian people. It is my opinion, that we, the secular democrats, represent a plurality (the largest segment of the vote). My opinion may be right or wrong. Future will show.

Masoud

US is opening a Virtual Embassy in Iran

What else do you need for evidence?!    I agree, what the speaker says - which is not much - makes sense. 

Don't you wonder why supporters of IR have cleared out of here (IC)?  They are done with their work.   

Mamad's Support for NIAC

Mamad: I do not support NIAC and Trita Parsi about everything that they do. I am neither a member of NIAC, nor a contributor. I do not even take part in their meetings and fund raising events in the LA area, even though I get invited. I have met Parsi exactly once in my entire life in a conference. I do support NIAC and Parsi regarding their opposition to de-listing of MKO from the terrorist list

Here is YOUR support for NIAC.

http://www.payvand.com/news/10/jan/1195.html

:-)